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what does tootsie mean to you girls?

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(@latinagirl)
Estimable Member     Bogota, Cundinamarca, Colombia
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tootsie was a movie that face me with myself, it was the opportunity to dream that it was possible that a man could wear a dress and living a life as a female and  it was an extraordinary idea  for me what about you sisters? perhaps ladies you have another movie  right? hugs felicity

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Famed Member     North County San Diego, California, United States of America
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@latinagirl 

I saw Tootsie soon after it came out.  At the time it seemed like pure fantasy - something I could never attain.  But I enjoyed the film and dreams it inspired.  Fast forward a few decades and realize I've been acting in a role I wasn't meant for.  I haven't seen Tootsie in many years.  I think it would bore me today.  It says nothing about the gender and mental health issues I struggled with for decades.  The authentic life I'm living today far exceeds what's depicted in Tootsie. 

Transparent and Orange Is the New Black are two television series that speak volumes.

/EA

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(@harriette)
Famed Member     Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Not sure if I ever saw Tootsie. Maybe.

However, I went looking at the other movie threads and it looks as if Lenny is still free on YouTube.

One of my favourites, so far, has been Victor / Victoria, both the one with Julie Andrews, plus the original German version.

“To Wong Fu, Thanks for Everything Julie Newmar” has some big name actors and a half decent story without Hollywood messing it all up with tropes.

I want to go back and watch "Priscilla, Queen of the Desert" again, soon.

Kinky Boots is good, based on some sort of real events. I am sure that the story was very massaged for the movie.

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Estimable Member     Bogota, Cundinamarca, Colombia
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@harriette yes victor/victoria is a classic i am with you

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(@bbwmeganlynn)
Eminent Member     East Brunswick, New Jersey, United States of America
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I’ve never seen any of these films!

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Famed Member     Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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@bbwmeganlynn I know, eh?

My movie collection is extensive and even I am surprised just how many movies either have a crossdressing episode in it or are based on crossdressing.

I still find more related movies, many that I never knew even existed, thanks to topics like this one (do a forum search for the others). It's not as if crossdressing is a broad, well known genre of movies, but there are quite a few, with a few made nearly 100 years ago.

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(@chanel)
Reputable Member     New Jersey, United States of America
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I loved Tootsie! I wanted to be her and wear her clothes. I wanted to tell my girlfriends that I had so many of the same interests in clothes, hair, shoes, all of it! I was so excited- I thought maybe there would be some legitimacy for cross dressing after it came out. There was in fact a little- but it didn’t seem to get very far. Thank you for bringing up a positive memory.

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(@reallylauren)
Noble Member     Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
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I loved Tootsie!  Watched it several times when it first came out on the big screen.  The first time I watched it I just about lost it when she was painting her toenails and doing her makeup! I knew at that time that someday I had to live that way. Now, I live that dream every day, and I will quote Emily Alt here: "The authentic life I'm living today far exceeds what's depicted in Tootsie."

Hugs,

Ms. Lauren M

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(@catgurl)
Noble Member     Marietta, Georgia, United States of America
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Oh yes, how well I remember when the movie Tootsie came out!

I was in the Navy, temporarily assigned to school duty in Texas in early 1983.  My wife and I went to see the movie at an off base movie theater.  I thought Dustin Hoffman did a superb acting job portraying Tootsie, and I too, as Chanel noted above, thought the movie would finally lend some legitimacy to crossdressing. However, it did not. 

At the time, Life Magazine did a feature-length article with some amazing behind-the-scenes photos on the Tootsie movie set which showed all the show preparation which Dustin Hoffman had to go through to become a convincing looking female.  The photos included showing all the female undergarments he wore, which were quite extensive, depending on what female outfit he was wearing.  Needless to say, he was professionally made up each day and coached on how to speak and walk so as to appear as a genuine female.  

I had such an urge to go out crossdressed, after seeing the movie, but since we were on temporary assignment, I did not have any of my female wardrobe with me.  It would be a few months until I transferred on to my next permanent duty assignment, and all our household goods were in storage, so my crossdressing was on hold. 

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(@caroline2k)
Honorable Member     Tyne and Wear, United Kingdom
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Although 'Tootsie was quite amusing, it was still like he was a drag act. The character doing it for work rather than because he was 'wired up' that way.

I think the film that has the best attempt to show crossdressing in a completely matter-of-fact way is ''Just Like A Woman"

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(@ryanpaul)
Noble Member     Outer Eastern Suburbs Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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I first saw Tootsie as a matinee on a work day, where as a "rep" I first when to a pub toilet and put my bra and panties onunder my drab  to "get into the mood" Reversed the process after the movie. How daring....?? was that LOL...

I agree with Geraldine that "Just Like a  Woman", is more representative of the CD genre, with an honorable mention to Sailors Girl with Lee Pace. To that had more of a transwoman "bent" to it. (no pun intended).

He and Dustin Hoffman could have long chats about being transformed into a woman on a daily basis as the movie was made.

 

Caty.

 

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(@michellemybell)
Honorable Member     Clearwater, Florida, United States of America
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I watched Tootsie several times when it first came out and I was mesmerized by how feminine Dustin Hoffman could look and wondered if that would ever be possible for me.  It took until I was 74 years old before I got my first transformation and found out.

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(@ab123)
Famed Member     Surrey, United Kingdom
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I watched Tootsie and it was an entertaining film about an actor acting a role to get the girl. 

Then a decade later along came Mrs Doubtfire, the basic premise was similar, a voice actor trying to get his girl. Again a highly entertaining film and both grossed well at the box office.

It is entertainment with two great actors at the top of their game with brilliant scripts. It did open a discussion about dressing as a woman which on the whole was quite positive but perhaps more to the trials of actually being a woman, struggles etc. Going deeper into the crossdressing arena wouldn't have been good for the films success at that time, both reminded you within the story that these were men at the end of the day.

Although I think there was a comment at the end of Tootsie where  after being found out and the dust settled Julie turned to Michael and said'I have a cute dress you can wear' Michael dipped his head and laughed....He didn't answer. So was that a question to which we could infer an answer?

What they gave to me was that if you worked at it being dressed outside and blending in was a clear possibility. Within the films were some ideas on makeup and how to get the female shape and look albeit very theatrical and also disasters such as unshaved legs, wigs turning round and forgetting the female voice. 

They are what they are, entertainment.

 

 

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(@jennconn)
Honorable Member     Florida, United States of America
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I was mesmerized by Tootsie, and as some have already said, I wished I could play that part as I watched the movie.  I had never dressed completely back then and couldn’t believe that professional makeup artists and prosthetics could transform a normal looking guy into an attractive woman.  How I wished that could happen to me.  

It finally did, but it only took several decades of wishing until it did.  But I still love that movie.  It was my favorite cd movie since Some Like it Hot, which was another time in my childhood where I wished I was an actor chosen for a part like that one.

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