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Baroness
(@amylove2dress)
Famed Member     South Western Ontario, Ontario, Canada
Joined: 6 years ago

Bobbi, difficult questions indeed!
I'll put a few of my thoughts down here, though I'm sure I could write a book about them.
I too struggled with this since around 12 or so, and have gone in and out of dressing, but hadn't dressed for quite a number of years till after I got married, then the allure of my wife's lingerie finally became overwhelming, so I started wearing it at times. Though I never hid it from her, and she said she thought it was cute, her words! Eventually she told me I should buy my own bras and other lingerie. Of course I did!
About three years ago as I was gaining a bit of self acceptance I talked to my minister about this, and told him most of the story. There was no problem of acceptance, as he is openly gay so understands this better than most.
The United of Church of Canada's take on this is if you are being true to yourself, then it is fine. As honestly is a doctrine of the church and how can you be honest when you are hiding your true self under a barrel? Which is why they also accept gays and lesbians as ministers. Though of course it's not without controversy at times.
I now accept this is part of me and something of a gift. Part of the gift is being able to enjoy my male life, then flipping myself into femme mode and loving that too. Like so many others have said I do think this makes me a better person, and not just when I'm dressed either.
Also I now see how my "Amy" side has been with me most of my life, and has influenced me without knowing it. Or you could simply say it's part of my personality.
I've used this analogy a few times. I have been drawn to music since before I started dressing up even, for whatever reason. But no one ever asks me why I play piano and write, and play other instruments. That is just me.
Amy

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Baroness
(@amylove2dress)
Famed Member     South Western Ontario, Ontario, Canada
Joined: 6 years ago

Bobbi, difficult questions indeed!
I'll put a few of my thoughts down here, though I'm sure I could write a book about them.
I too struggled with this since around 12 or so, and have gone in and out of dressing, but hadn't dressed for quite a number of years till after I got married, then the allure of my wife's lingerie finally became overwhelming, so I started wearing it at times. Though I never hid it from her, and she said she thought it was cute, her words! Eventually she told me I should buy my own bras and other lingerie. Of course I did!
About three years ago as I was gaining a bit of self acceptance I talked to my minister about this, and told him most of the story. There was no problem of acceptance, as he is openly gay so understands this better than most.
The United of Church of Canada's take on this is if you are being true to yourself, then it is fine. As honestly is a doctrine of the church and how can you be honest when you are hiding your true self under a barrel? Which is why they also accept gays and lesbians as ministers. Though of course it's not without controversy at times.
I now accept this is part of me and something of a gift. Part of the gift is being able to enjoy my male life, then flipping myself into femme mode and loving that too. Like so many others have said I do think this makes me a better person, and not just when I'm dressed either.
Also I now see how my "Amy" side has been with me most of my life, and has influenced me without knowing it. Or you could simply say it's part of my personality.
I've used this analogy a few times. I have been drawn to music since before I started dressing up even, for whatever reason. But no one ever asks me why I play piano and write, and play other instruments. That is just me.
Amy

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Lady
(@bobbiw)
Joined: 9 years ago

Trusted Member     Alabama, United States of America
Posts: 49

Hi Amy,

Thank you for sharing a glimpse of your journey. I applaud the courage and self confidence you displayed by talking with your minister. More important, though was the self acceptance you developed to have that conversation. I am very happy for you! Growing up Catholic, there are very few priests I would feel comfortable discussing my crossdressing with, but that’s just me. Maybe some day if the opportunity presented itself, I would love to talk with the Jesuit, James Martin.

I also want to thank you for your perspective on what the “gift” is to you. We may have said it a little differently, but I think I see the gift in much the same way that you describe. The reference to true self and keeping your light under a bushel was really meant a lot to me as did your analogy to playing piano. Keep letting your light shine!

Hugs,

Bobbi

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Lady
(@bobbiw)
Joined: 9 years ago

Trusted Member     Alabama, United States of America
Posts: 49

Hi Amy,

Thank you for sharing a glimpse of your journey. I applaud the courage and self confidence you displayed by talking with your minister. More important, though was the self acceptance you developed to have that conversation. I am very happy for you! Growing up Catholic, there are very few priests I would feel comfortable discussing my crossdressing with, but that’s just me. Maybe some day if the opportunity presented itself, I would love to talk with the Jesuit, James Martin.

I also want to thank you for your perspective on what the “gift” is to you. We may have said it a little differently, but I think I see the gift in much the same way that you describe. The reference to true self and keeping your light under a bushel was really meant a lot to me as did your analogy to playing piano. Keep letting your light shine!

Hugs,

Bobbi

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Lady
(@briellerose)
Honorable Member     Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, United States of America
Joined: 3 years ago

Hi Bobbi, your article could have been written by me, except I started several years of age earlier and fought it for 10 years later into my marriage. I too was convinced that God was, at the very least, disappointed in my choices and lack of strength to "resist". At worst He considered me an abomination (neither is remotely true).

It wasn't until a few years ago that I learned why certain words and passages appear in the English translations of the Word. Those IMO errant translations and interpretations have caused harm to the Way and alienated millions of souls! Instead of loving others where they are, we are taught by "religious people" to judge and disapprove of some people or actions that they say are bad.

Yes, GF, we do have a precious gift to be able to tap into our softer, feminine side to a larger degree than other AMAB people can, or will allow themselves to. Those of us who are Christians have a duty to help others see that they are truly loved more than they (or we) can possibly comprehend. Self-hatred never comes from God, but from the Adversary.

I'm so glad to see you are healing. It feels so good to finally just love yourself for who you are and stop judging yourself, doesn't it?!

Hugs,

Brielle

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Lady
(@briellerose)
Honorable Member     Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, United States of America
Joined: 3 years ago

Hi Bobbi, your article could have been written by me, except I started several years of age earlier and fought it for 10 years later into my marriage. I too was convinced that God was, at the very least, disappointed in my choices and lack of strength to "resist". At worst He considered me an abomination (neither is remotely true).

It wasn't until a few years ago that I learned why certain words and passages appear in the English translations of the Word. Those IMO errant translations and interpretations have caused harm to the Way and alienated millions of souls! Instead of loving others where they are, we are taught by "religious people" to judge and disapprove of some people or actions that they say are bad.

Yes, GF, we do have a precious gift to be able to tap into our softer, feminine side to a larger degree than other AMAB people can, or will allow themselves to. Those of us who are Christians have a duty to help others see that they are truly loved more than they (or we) can possibly comprehend. Self-hatred never comes from God, but from the Adversary.

I'm so glad to see you are healing. It feels so good to finally just love yourself for who you are and stop judging yourself, doesn't it?!

Hugs,

Brielle

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Lady
(@bobbiw)
Joined: 9 years ago

Trusted Member     Alabama, United States of America
Posts: 49

Hi Brielle,

Thank you so much for your reply. It really struck me in a way I don’t often think about, but should. For me, periodically I hear the strong voice that says God is here for us all in the form we were created and then I quickly go back to the message of sinfulness delivered by too many “religious people”.

I also appreciate the way you describe the gift and our responsibility to help others understand they are loved beyond comprehension. Your comment about self hatred being the adversary of God’s work was extremely meaningful to me. Again, thank you!

My journey to healing and self acceptance is far from complete, but it does feel great to be where I am compared to where I was a few short years ago.

Hugs,

Bobbi

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Lady
(@bobbiw)
Joined: 9 years ago

Trusted Member     Alabama, United States of America
Posts: 49

Hi Brielle,

Thank you so much for your reply. It really struck me in a way I don’t often think about, but should. For me, periodically I hear the strong voice that says God is here for us all in the form we were created and then I quickly go back to the message of sinfulness delivered by too many “religious people”.

I also appreciate the way you describe the gift and our responsibility to help others understand they are loved beyond comprehension. Your comment about self hatred being the adversary of God’s work was extremely meaningful to me. Again, thank you!

My journey to healing and self acceptance is far from complete, but it does feel great to be where I am compared to where I was a few short years ago.

Hugs,

Bobbi

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Lady
(@briellerose)
Joined: 3 years ago

Honorable Member     Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, United States of America
Posts: 668

Hi Bobbi, I am so glad you got good vibes from my reply. As you can tell, I'm pretty passionate about the whole issue of acceptance and inclusion in the Church. I never want to push my views on others, but just want to share what I've experienced - especially the recent peace in my journey to transition.

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Lady
(@briellerose)
Joined: 3 years ago

Honorable Member     Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, United States of America
Posts: 668

Hi Bobbi, I am so glad you got good vibes from my reply. As you can tell, I'm pretty passionate about the whole issue of acceptance and inclusion in the Church. I never want to push my views on others, but just want to share what I've experienced - especially the recent peace in my journey to transition.

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Ambassador
(@robink)
Active Member     Nebraska, United States of America
Joined: 6 years ago

My gift------When I struggled with the shame there was always a wall that no one crossed, even my wife. I'm not out, but I no longer hide. I now have a connection with my children and the world that was impossible otherwise. That is a blessing.

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Lady
(@bobbiw)
Joined: 9 years ago

Trusted Member     Alabama, United States of America
Posts: 49

Hi Robin,

Thank you for your reply. The wall you describe is exactly the term I have used for the isolation I’ve felt through the years. I’m happy to hear you broke that barrier down. While my wife knows, my wall is still there, since we have a DADT relationship. I &am not hiding as much as I used to, so my wall is slowly being dismantled with each step I take toward full self acceptance and expression of my crossdressing.

Hugs,

Bobbi

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Lady
(@bobbiw)
Joined: 9 years ago

Trusted Member     Alabama, United States of America
Posts: 49

Hi Robin,

Thank you for your reply. The wall you describe is exactly the term I have used for the isolation I’ve felt through the years. I’m happy to hear you broke that barrier down. While my wife knows, my wall is still there, since we have a DADT relationship. I &am not hiding as much as I used to, so my wall is slowly being dismantled with each step I take toward full self acceptance and expression of my crossdressing.

Hugs,

Bobbi

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Ambassador
(@robink)
Active Member     Nebraska, United States of America
Joined: 6 years ago

My gift------When I struggled with the shame there was always a wall that no one crossed, even my wife. I'm not out, but I no longer hide. I now have a connection with my children and the world that was impossible otherwise. That is a blessing.

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Guest
(@Heidi Smith)
Active Member
Joined: 3 years ago

Thanks for bringing this up. I'll take my time before trying to speak for the Trinity. I believe I am forgiven and loved. I am thankful.

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Lady
(@bobbiw)
Joined: 9 years ago

Trusted Member     Alabama, United States of America
Posts: 49

Hi Heidi,

Thanks for your reply. It appears we both agree that it is wise not to speak for the Trinity. You said it very well when you believed you are forgiven and loved. What a nice way to express the gift, gratitude. It took me a long time to get to that point with my femme self.

Hugs,

Bobbi

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Guest
(@Heidi Smith)
Joined: 3 years ago

Active Member
Posts: 9

Because I am forgiven, knowing it's not earned, I am perfectly willing to look for the good in everyone and everything. It has made me hopeful and more compassionate.

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Guest
(@Heidi Smith)
Joined: 3 years ago

Active Member
Posts: 9

Because I am forgiven, knowing it's not earned, I am perfectly willing to look for the good in everyone and everything. It has made me hopeful and more compassionate.

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Lady
(@bobbiw)
Joined: 9 years ago

Trusted Member     Alabama, United States of America
Posts: 49

Hi Heidi,

Thanks for your reply. It appears we both agree that it is wise not to speak for the Trinity. You said it very well when you believed you are forgiven and loved. What a nice way to express the gift, gratitude. It took me a long time to get to that point with my femme self.

Hugs,

Bobbi

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Guest
(@Heidi Smith)
Active Member
Joined: 3 years ago

Thanks for bringing this up. I'll take my time before trying to speak for the Trinity. I believe I am forgiven and loved. I am thankful.

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Duchess
(@michellemybell)
Prominent Member     Clearwater, Florida, United States of America
Joined: 3 years ago

Hi Bobbi,

Very thought provoking article. I am struggling to view the crossdressing urge as a gift because of the difficulties, guilt and shame that have accompanied it over the years. However, if I look at as an integral part of me that forms the person I am that's something I can get behind. Then if I look at who I am as a person overall, I feel worthy of love and understanding and can accept that the crossdressing is part of the package just like the color of my eyes and skin.

My wife of over 50 years and I have a DADT relationship with my crossdressing but recently I have asked and gotten her permission to wear lingerie to bed sometimes and she has agreed. I feel embarrassed having her see me dressed like that because I know it is not how she would like to view me. However, your article has helped me view it from a different place. She loves me and knows I'm a good person who loves her very much even though I have this need she doesn't understand or like. This need is nothing to be ashamed about but accepted as part of the gift of me just like the color of my eyes and skin.

Like all things in a relationship, I need to balance my needs with hers but I don't need to feel bad about my needs even if they are not generally accepted by society as long as they cause no harm.

Thanks for the article,

Michelle

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Lady
(@bobbiw)
Joined: 9 years ago

Trusted Member     Alabama, United States of America
Posts: 49

Hi Michelle,

Thank you so much for your thoughtful reply. Our journeys seem to have a lot of similarities. I completely understand the years, rather decades, of guilt and shame. If I’m being totally honest, those feelings still lurk inside me and rear their ugly heads periodically. Like you and many others that have been kind enough to reply to my article, I have come to realize that my crossdressing is part of the whole me. My journey of total self acceptance is still a work in progress, but the last year was a year of significant progress for me and I’m very happy to hear sharing that my have helped you in some way!

I also understand compromise in a relationship. I have not asked to wear women’s outer clothing in her presence, but my wife said no one will know what I’m wearing under my male clothes. As a result, I under dress frequently. That’s part of the compromise in our relationship.

Hugs,

Bobbi

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Lady
(@bobbiw)
Joined: 9 years ago

Trusted Member     Alabama, United States of America
Posts: 49

Hi Michelle,

Thank you so much for your thoughtful reply. Our journeys seem to have a lot of similarities. I completely understand the years, rather decades, of guilt and shame. If I’m being totally honest, those feelings still lurk inside me and rear their ugly heads periodically. Like you and many others that have been kind enough to reply to my article, I have come to realize that my crossdressing is part of the whole me. My journey of total self acceptance is still a work in progress, but the last year was a year of significant progress for me and I’m very happy to hear sharing that my have helped you in some way!

I also understand compromise in a relationship. I have not asked to wear women’s outer clothing in her presence, but my wife said no one will know what I’m wearing under my male clothes. As a result, I under dress frequently. That’s part of the compromise in our relationship.

Hugs,

Bobbi

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Duchess
(@michellemybell)
Prominent Member     Clearwater, Florida, United States of America
Joined: 3 years ago

Hi Bobbi,

Very thought provoking article. I am struggling to view the crossdressing urge as a gift because of the difficulties, guilt and shame that have accompanied it over the years. However, if I look at as an integral part of me that forms the person I am that's something I can get behind. Then if I look at who I am as a person overall, I feel worthy of love and understanding and can accept that the crossdressing is part of the package just like the color of my eyes and skin.

My wife of over 50 years and I have a DADT relationship with my crossdressing but recently I have asked and gotten her permission to wear lingerie to bed sometimes and she has agreed. I feel embarrassed having her see me dressed like that because I know it is not how she would like to view me. However, your article has helped me view it from a different place. She loves me and knows I'm a good person who loves her very much even though I have this need she doesn't understand or like. This need is nothing to be ashamed about but accepted as part of the gift of me just like the color of my eyes and skin.

Like all things in a relationship, I need to balance my needs with hers but I don't need to feel bad about my needs even if they are not generally accepted by society as long as they cause no harm.

Thanks for the article,

Michelle

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Lady
(@plussizedmarlie)
Trusted Member     Liverpool, New York, United States of America
Joined: 5 years ago

Bobbi, Sorry this got away from me; My formative years were much the same as yours. Loving parents and a religious upbringing. Somewhere around the age of 10, I discovered the female form. After a year of studying all their curves and clothes, I started to dress as I thought they would. Not having any privacy in my house, I could only wear panties. The feeling excited me so much, I soon discovered the orgasm. After that, I was hooked. Through my teens, 20’s, and 30’s, I off and on wore female foundations (bra and/or panty) thinking I was making myself complete. I remember thinking that once I get married, it’ll stop…it did for a while. Then the urge came back even stronger. Eventually, I gave in and was crossdressing whenever I could. My found my collections and I purged them promising not to do it again. Now here I am at the age of 58 in therapy, still trying to figure out how to be happy. I cannot lose my marriage or family so now I under dress every day and am finding my way to happiness. This is not a topic my wife chooses to be any part of. Just wanted to share.

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Lady
(@bobbiw)
Joined: 9 years ago

Trusted Member     Alabama, United States of America
Posts: 49

Hi Marlie,

It does sound like there are similarities in our formative years as well as our family values today! My wife never suspected until I came out to in a somewhat unintentional, intentional way. I am glad to hear you are in therapy. Therapy helped me achieve the self acceptance I have. I did that with the help and support of my wife. My most sincere wish for you is to find your way to inner peace and happiness.

Hugs,

Bobbi

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Lady
(@bobbiw)
Joined: 9 years ago

Trusted Member     Alabama, United States of America
Posts: 49

Hi Marlie,

It does sound like there are similarities in our formative years as well as our family values today! My wife never suspected until I came out to in a somewhat unintentional, intentional way. I am glad to hear you are in therapy. Therapy helped me achieve the self acceptance I have. I did that with the help and support of my wife. My most sincere wish for you is to find your way to inner peace and happiness.

Hugs,

Bobbi

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Posts: 61
Lady
(@plussizedmarlie)
Trusted Member     Liverpool, New York, United States of America
Joined: 5 years ago

Bobbi, Sorry this got away from me; My formative years were much the same as yours. Loving parents and a religious upbringing. Somewhere around the age of 10, I discovered the female form. After a year of studying all their curves and clothes, I started to dress as I thought they would. Not having any privacy in my house, I could only wear panties. The feeling excited me so much, I soon discovered the orgasm. After that, I was hooked. Through my teens, 20’s, and 30’s, I off and on wore female foundations (bra and/or panty) thinking I was making myself complete. I remember thinking that once I get married, it’ll stop…it did for a while. Then the urge came back even stronger. Eventually, I gave in and was crossdressing whenever I could. My found my collections and I purged them promising not to do it again. Now here I am at the age of 58 in therapy, still trying to figure out how to be happy. I cannot lose my marriage or family so now I under dress every day and am finding my way to happiness. This is not a topic my wife chooses to be any part of. Just wanted to share.

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Lady
(@msrachaelrose)
Eminent Member     High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, United Kingdom
Joined: 4 years ago

Hi Bobbi.
Thank you for not only sharing your inner most thoughts but also for prompting others to contribute their perspective and feelings about seeing our need to crossdress as a gift. My beliefs and values are close to yours and like most of us here struggled for many years with feelings of guilt, shame and confusion yet the needs and desires always returned.
After a number of years when life was very difficult for me in a wide range of issues I found that talking to others about my needs to express my feminine side enabled me to see that crossdressing helped when, if I am brutally honest, I might have turned to other forms of escape to deal with stressful periods - for that alone I am grateful and view it as a gift.
As time has progressed and the difficult years are behind me and life is much better I have come to not only accept that I have a feminine side to my persona but to also recognise that although the world sees me in my male role as a family man and business man I try and bring to the roles a wider and kinder view point which I hope makes me better in my male domain.
I have also come to recognise that it is often quite easy for certain men to revert to seeing the world through somewhat stereotypical even bigoted eyes and so I try to see people without judging them and think about their struggles in life - if that means I can help them in some way I am very happy to reach out to them and lend them a hand. Knowing how the world views us as crossdressers I think helps me to understand how many people are viewed and how that creates issues for them.
My wife knows I crossdress and wear female underwear most days when working at home and will often buy things for me - I think we support each other in various ways including the relationship we have with our children and grandchildren so having a feminine side to my nature helps I think in this aspect of our life so again another side of the gift.
Others may have a different set of experiences or point of view but for me after years of self denial and confusion I have found contentment and acceptance about what makes me tick in both my male and female personas - its not always easy to mix the two but I see it as making me a better person which is the overriding factor.

Best regards
Rachael xx

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Lady
(@bobbiw)
Joined: 9 years ago

Trusted Member     Alabama, United States of America
Posts: 49

Hi Rachael,

Thank you for your reply. It was filled with thoughtfulness and insight. I have used a number of outlets to weather troubling times during my life. Fortunately, none were either self destructive or harmful to others. I had not really thought of crossdressing dressing in this light, but when I look back I believe this helped in ways I didn’t realize at the time.

I work in a male dominated field, so unfortunately I understand all too well the way certain people narrowly and stereotypically view the world. I would like to think, like yourself, in my male persona that I take the wider view of others that you mention. I try to help broaden the views of those narrow minded individuals, but that is something I would like to get better at. I find that the arc of change is too often very gradual so patience and perseverance.

I am happy that you continue working on the blend of your two persona’s to achieve a better, whole human being. An endeavor I believe is so worth the undertaking!

Again, thank you for articulating the multiple ways in which crossdressing has been a gift to you. I found that to be very helpful and I’m confident others will too.

Hugs,

Bobbi

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Lady
(@bobbiw)
Joined: 9 years ago

Trusted Member     Alabama, United States of America
Posts: 49

Hi Rachael,

Thank you for your reply. It was filled with thoughtfulness and insight. I have used a number of outlets to weather troubling times during my life. Fortunately, none were either self destructive or harmful to others. I had not really thought of crossdressing dressing in this light, but when I look back I believe this helped in ways I didn’t realize at the time.

I work in a male dominated field, so unfortunately I understand all too well the way certain people narrowly and stereotypically view the world. I would like to think, like yourself, in my male persona that I take the wider view of others that you mention. I try to help broaden the views of those narrow minded individuals, but that is something I would like to get better at. I find that the arc of change is too often very gradual so patience and perseverance.

I am happy that you continue working on the blend of your two persona’s to achieve a better, whole human being. An endeavor I believe is so worth the undertaking!

Again, thank you for articulating the multiple ways in which crossdressing has been a gift to you. I found that to be very helpful and I’m confident others will too.

Hugs,

Bobbi

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Lady
(@msrachaelrose)
Eminent Member     High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, United Kingdom
Joined: 4 years ago

Hi Bobbi.
Thank you for not only sharing your inner most thoughts but also for prompting others to contribute their perspective and feelings about seeing our need to crossdress as a gift. My beliefs and values are close to yours and like most of us here struggled for many years with feelings of guilt, shame and confusion yet the needs and desires always returned.
After a number of years when life was very difficult for me in a wide range of issues I found that talking to others about my needs to express my feminine side enabled me to see that crossdressing helped when, if I am brutally honest, I might have turned to other forms of escape to deal with stressful periods - for that alone I am grateful and view it as a gift.
As time has progressed and the difficult years are behind me and life is much better I have come to not only accept that I have a feminine side to my persona but to also recognise that although the world sees me in my male role as a family man and business man I try and bring to the roles a wider and kinder view point which I hope makes me better in my male domain.
I have also come to recognise that it is often quite easy for certain men to revert to seeing the world through somewhat stereotypical even bigoted eyes and so I try to see people without judging them and think about their struggles in life - if that means I can help them in some way I am very happy to reach out to them and lend them a hand. Knowing how the world views us as crossdressers I think helps me to understand how many people are viewed and how that creates issues for them.
My wife knows I crossdress and wear female underwear most days when working at home and will often buy things for me - I think we support each other in various ways including the relationship we have with our children and grandchildren so having a feminine side to my nature helps I think in this aspect of our life so again another side of the gift.
Others may have a different set of experiences or point of view but for me after years of self denial and confusion I have found contentment and acceptance about what makes me tick in both my male and female personas - its not always easy to mix the two but I see it as making me a better person which is the overriding factor.

Best regards
Rachael xx

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Lady
(@robynp)
Eminent Member
Joined: 9 years ago

Bobbi, for me the answer to your question is a sinple one. it allows you to be the person you are.x

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Lady
(@bobbiw)
Joined: 9 years ago

Trusted Member     Alabama, United States of America
Posts: 49

Hi Robyn,

Thank you for your reply. I really love your simple, direct view of this gift. There is such elegance in the simplicity!

Hugs,

Bobbi

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Lady
(@bobbiw)
Joined: 9 years ago

Trusted Member     Alabama, United States of America
Posts: 49

Hi Robyn,

Thank you for your reply. I really love your simple, direct view of this gift. There is such elegance in the simplicity!

Hugs,

Bobbi

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