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It happened.

Today was the day that I finally moved our relationship, and my cross-dressing, from a 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' policy, to being open and owning it.

I should have had this first conversation a long time ago—at least I wish I could have had it— but now, the time felt right, as we are getting older with some health issues (not major) and we were talking through them.

She has had some anxiety issues of late and I asked if I was causing or contributing to any of them? She said no, which felt more like: 'No - quit acting like a typical guy and thinking it is about you'. So I went further to clarify: I have been shaving my legs for a year, at all times, we get pedicures together and I have a pinkish, shiny, clear on my toes now. I asked if all this contributes to her anxiety around what my intentions are—while pointing at my legs and toes. What is next? She said, no, I know you are taking better care of your skin. I said, yes, that is part of it but it all started when I was little, in the basement, with my sisters. We had a box of old heels and dresses that we would play dress up in. Then, when I was 11, I was caught trying on a skirt of my closest sister, in age, in a room by myself. I saw the skirt and the pull was extreme. I was just drawn to it and had to try it on; I didn't understand it then, don't understand it now. I felt shame when I was caught, but nonetheless, this was and is a part of me.

I like to look pretty. I like to get fully dressed and adore a dress or skirt and cute shoes. It is a major stress relief for me and it is getting stronger as I get older. I assume my testosterone is going down; I have always had a bit of gynaecomastia since I hit puberty. That was always a concern for me and a bit embarrassing for a kid that loved athletics and I put my dressing under wraps for the first 20 years of our marriage, yet it is coming back and part of who I am, undeniably.

I love shopping for outfits for my wife—and me—that flatter and make her feel better about herself. I always admired how she cares about how she looks, dresses, and takes care of herself; it is part of what I loved about her from the beginning. I reminded her of a moment in our marriage when I had tried on and stretched out a slip of hers. She pulled it out and looked right at me with a miffed look on her face; she doesn't remember it, but I do, like it was yesterday.

She loves how I dress nicely in drab. I shared with her that when I am shopping for her - and me - in drab, women have commented how good I am putting things together. That is the fun part and I stressed to the women at Soma that I have to put outfits together for me as well! The fact that the comment occurred when I was matching bras and panties for me was a part I didn't share.

We didn't talk about the time I needed her to join me for work at a big gala. She had zero interest and was very self-conscious about buying a gown, so I shopped for her and had a bunch of options shipped in for her to try. I don't think that would happen in most relationships, but it was fun for both of us and she loved how she looked. The pay-off for me was her feeling good about herself and being able to enjoy the evening. Of course, I would have loved to be in a gown and gorgeous heels as well - but that was not meant to be! I was proud to be in a tux with her at my side. My wife is my best friend; I rely on her and she on me—I told her I didn't want this to impact us but she needed to know. I joked that if I had a stroke and all the filters came off, I would be in a dress the next day. If she'd had no idea that would be quite a shock! She laughed. I told her I have my own undergarments and clothes. Yes, I have tried on some of hers but I keep that to a minimum; undergarments were a key piece that I wanted to ensure were separate. She liked and appreciated that and didn't seem concerned about the other try-ons. She asked if I had things hidden around the house. Yes. She simply said 'good to know'. No emotions behind the comment at all.

I don't know if life is about to become better or more challenging. All people take time to process things and like grief, will go through a range of emotions. What I do know is it ended with a tearful hug from both of us and her thanking me for sharing this part of me. Thank you all for being who you are in this community and for supporting all of us as we navigate this part of our lives. I love and appreciate all of you!

Janet 💋

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(@ellyd22)
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I absolutely loved this, Janet 🥰

I know how gut-wrenching conversations like this can be, but you handled everything in a very empathetic and caring way.

You've been brave, honest and true to yourself while absolutely respecting your wife's feelings and emotions.

Just wonderful.

Thank you so much for sharing.

Heart

Hugs

Ellie x

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Duchess
(@jjorgenson)
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Thank you, Ellie! I am so hoping we continue to positively evolve on this journey. We have focused on spending time together like we always have this weekend. In other words, it doesn't need to change EVERYTHING. Love you and thank you!💋

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I assume my testosterone is going down

Don't assume. Whenever you have your next blood test, ask your doctor to have it checked. There is a possibility that levels could be going down as we get older, but it is not a sure thing.

I had a reason to have mine checked, recently, and after reading comments here, I also got curious if anything was, um, not normal. Nope. Sure, your T level may be lower than its peak, but it only has to be within a normal range. Plus, if you get it tested now, you will have a base with which you can compare in the future.

 

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Great feedback!

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Thank you for sharing such an emotional conversation with us Janet.  Hearing what you’ve gone through is so relatable for me.  I’ve been doing this on and off most of my life, and regrettably mostly off most of my life.  

While my wife was alive, I always wanted to have this conversation with her just to get it out in the open and stop hiding my feelings and desires.  But I never did.  I was afraid that it might ruin our beautiful relationship and life long happiness, so I never told her.  I never got to see myself fully dressed as a woman until after she passed away a little over 2 years ago.  

But, enough about me, this is your time, and I’m so glad that you not only had the conversation, but that it seems to be going well for you.  I sincerely hope it continues to and you both live to have long and happy lives enjoying each others company and loving each other as you have in the past no matter what you are wearing.

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(@jjorgenson)
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Thank you so much, Jennifer! I really appreciate your friendship. I think your situation highlights the challenge with all of this. There is no right answer and all of them carry their risks and rewards. We need to navigate in a way that respects all the wonderful parts of our relationships. 💋💋💋

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@jennconn I like your response here JC. The second paragraph where you state that you put your wife’s needs before yours. It’s rare to read that on CDH. I think there are many girls who approach their crossdressing in that way. Being a CD is trivial to me if you’re comparing it to a beautiful relationship with lifelong happiness. An easy choice. Indeed, the clothes can wait.

GP

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@gracepal thank you so much Grace

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Nice post Janet. Enjoyed it thoroughly.

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Janet, I applaud your open and honest approach, I hope other girls are inspired to adopt a similar approach if and when they want to share with their SO. 

Sharing stories like this is what makes our community the wonderful place it is, thank you so much ♥️

Allie x

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Duchess
(@jjorgenson)
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Thank you, Allie!💋

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Lady
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Janet, your story is an inspiration.

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(@shelly-lynn)
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Estimable Member     Grand Rapids, Michigan, United States of America
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Life is so much better when you can share your true self with your wife. I told my wife before we were married 30 years ago that I love dressing as a woman. I was so lucky she accepted me for who I am. It feels so wonderful to be my true self without hiding something that is so important to me.

Heart

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Duchess
(@jjorgenson)
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I am hoping that we get to the same place!

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Lady
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Thank you for sharing 

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Thank you for sharing this , it sounds to me like it’s a massive step In the direction you want to be going , I wish you all the very best and happiness 😍

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Duchess
(@jjorgenson)
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Thank you, Laura! I love the support you are providing your SO!💋

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Lady
(@sf)
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Janet, An absolutely lovely article. Your CD / drab life parallels mine in so many ways. My wifely (44 years) knows about Staci, but is not very supportive, but we can talk about her openly.
I plan on printing your article for her to read. Will be interesting to see what wifey's response will be.
Thanks for posting, Merry Christmas to you and your family! Staci...

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Duchess
(@jjorgenson)
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Merry Christmas! I am looking forward to hearing back from you how the discussion with your wife. I loved reading about your story as well. 💋💋💋

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(@alexina)
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PS, I've no idea why Janet is showing here as a guest. The same xthing happened with Lizzy " A weekend as Lizzy". 

Anyone have an answer?

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Probably a "time out". It just happened to me. Reading everyone's comments and liking them.

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(@ab123)
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A wonderful, open and honest exchange with your wife Janet, a pleasure to read. It is never a given how these sort of discussions will pan out but seem to be necessity to reassure and explain emotions.

I am so happy yours worked out well.

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(@jjorgenson)
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It was a wonderful start. Thank you, Angela. I hope it continues on a positive trajectory!

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(@trickyvicki)
Active Member     Gatineau, Quebec, Canada
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Hi Janet
I know exactly what you’re going through for I’m going through it now. I’ve been doing my nails and toes for years and that was fine but then I started with makeup about a tear ago now. That took a while for her to except. Just lately it came out I wanted female clothing! Well this didn’t go over well. She was mad ho she didn’t marry a woman etc. And questioned whether or not we had to consult. I think she is slowly getting used to the idea of what I would like. I have a rdv in march for HRT which she doesn’t like but knows I want it. This week she surprised me by her and my daughter wanting to go to the mall with me to pick a top for a pair of pants/skirt(long) for the holidays. Once at the mall we went to almost every store and finished at Laura’s a woman’s store. Between her my daughter and the sales lady I must have tried half the store it ended up with about three or for outfits and around 600$ later. But no dresses or skirts but some nice blouses and pants and a jacket vest for our cruise next year so needless to say I was shocked! I do have some dresses and skirts I do wear during the day when she’s at work so that’s still a work in progress. I was really worried about our marriage but now believe it will survive! We’ve been married for 42 yrs. This New Year’s Eve. I believe I’ll be in a female outfit. I really would like to buy a nice quality wig. But I think that will be another challenge to face. I have never written anything like this before but your story really touched a spot in my heart being so close to myself.

Luv Vicky

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Duchess
(@jjorgenson)
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Wow, Vicky! Thank you so much for sharing! It certainly is a journey for all of us. I have a couple wigs and some wonderful clothes, makeup, and everything so I have to be careful not to completely freak her out when we ease into this. I hope for an outcome like yours of a shopping trip and spending time together like that. What a joy! I don't intend to do anything further than this but even managing through this will have some bumps. Be kind to yourself and to your wife as you go through this. Sounds like you have had a wonderful life together and need to protect it! Happy Holidays!💋💋💋

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(@trickyvicki)
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@jjorgenson happy holidays to you as well!

its not easy breaking news of our desires. I have an appt in march for hormones (HRT) but thats as far as i want to go hoping for a lot of the benefits from hormone therapy ie: better hair, less body hair, and natural breasts!  I will never be a looker for I’m too old and masculine looking. But will feel better inside. I’ve heard that others even after years only obtained a A cup size. I hope Im luckier than that and wish to take natural breast enhancement aids as well to help. My wife knows that’s as far as I wish to go for no matter what I may look like I’m still only into woman.,, I just want to look more like one!  I have one synthetic wig but brushed it too much so now the ends are a bit frizzy. Sadly I need to see if I can fix it or  talk my wife into wig shopping lol. Can’t see it happening soon but who knows. Thanks for reaching out and becoming friends!

Vicky Heart  

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Duchess
(@jjorgenson)
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I have always had some more flesh up top so probably am an A cup now. I hope the HRT gives you the calm and peace I have heard of from others as a byproduct. Best wishes!

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I have been open with my wife about Anna since we had "the talk" and I dress in front of her. We shop together and she borrows my stuff regularly.

She's benefitted recently from a bridesmaid dress and an LBD that fit her better than they fit me and when we were out with friends the other day she was wearing one of my dresses, a bolero which is mine and carrying one of my clutches.

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Duchess
(@jjorgenson)
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That is fabulous! I hope we will get to that point! I have a dress that she would look fantastic in that I think would flatter her in ways she can't imagine. I thought of her needing some nylons and asking me if I had any. Someday...💋

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@jjorgenson Oh she's "borrowed" my stockings before!

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(@rebeccabaxter)
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@annaredhead My wife is so used to borrowing my stuff that today she ran out of hairspray and asked if she could borrow mine before remembering that I wear a wig and don't have any hairspray (not going to start trying to get hairspray out of a wig).

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Baroness
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@rebeccabaxter That is priceless! 

I love your new profile photo.

Hugs,

Anna xx

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(@rebeccabaxter)
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Thank you. It was time for a change.

Becs

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(@jjorgenson)
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Lovely look!

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@jjorgenson I feel that the thing is, no matter how this turns out you'll know that you owned it. That you had an open, honest discussion. That you took her feelings into account while staying true to yourself.

I believe that is how you get a good night's sleep. Well done, Janet. ❤️ 

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Duchess
(@jjorgenson)
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Thank you, Melodee! I felt like the time had come that I needed to own it. I have read so many articles of people learning to accept this part of them I figured it was time I did the same. What better way to own it than to share it with your best friend! After the last few days we are working through it. Long ways to go!

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(@leonara)
Noble Member     Long Island,, New York, United States of America
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Hi Janet,
thank you for a very timely Article… as my wife processes my CD revelation, we are in the “don’t ask, don’t tell” stage in our compromise. She prefers when I feel the pink fog that I dress when she is not home… fortunately, it happens 2x a week as she participates with her friends card games( we are retired and live in a 55+ community) .. you are an inspiration. Leonara is a very part of my life and its time to revisit the “talk”..
Merry Christmas 🎄 and a Happy New Year to you and your family ..
xo Leonara 🌹

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Duchess
(@jjorgenson)
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Happy Holidays, Leonara! Lots of tears last night as we continued the discussions. She was afraid I was going to leave her. For me, it is the opposite hope and expectation. I shared it because I don't want to hide this or separate this from us - my most valued friendship. I have lots of hope and know we have a long ways to go including creating boundaries as you and your wife have done.

Janet💋

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(@cdsue)
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Janet -

Thank you for such a lovely article. I am very happy for you that you were able to have that conversation with your wife.

It has been a roller coaster of a ride for my wife and I. When I first came out to her she felt betrayed and was very upset. Over the years she has become more accepting of my dressing although there have been some melt downs along the way which we worked through. She surprises me sometimes like last year for my birthday she took me to get my ears pierced and buys me earrings every once in awhile. There are days that she will invite Suzanne to spend the day and I spend the day dressed. We bought dresses to wear on Christmas. When we go clothes shopping for her she calls me her fashionista and has me pick out clothes for her. We go for mani-pedi's together and I get color on my toes as well as clear pink tinge gel on my fingers. As Virginia Slims said "you've come a long way baby".

I hope things continue in a positive way for you and your wife. The most important thing is communication and it sounds like you opened the lines of communication which is lovely.

Merry Christmas

XOXO
Suzanne

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Duchess
(@jjorgenson)
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Thank you so much for sharing your situation, too, Suzanne! That sounds where I would love for us to mature to in this process. Lots of conversations to get there and I am certain there will be some blow ups along the way. 💋

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@jjorgenson your welcome - good luck on your journey - look forward to hearing how things progress for you

XOXO
Suzanne

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(@ellie52)
Estimable Member     Perth, Western Australia, Australia
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I loved reading this Janet. It is a reminder that we are a couple in a relationship and as a couple we should share things and dont keep secrets, as secrets have a way of building a wall between us. I remember when i told my wife many years ago - we were having trouble as my CD desire was getting strionger with age - she thought I was having an affair - and in a way I was, but not in how she thought. Anyway, when I told her she hugged me and called me "Her sweet transvestite' (A line from the Rocky horror picure show movie which she loves). So from then on things became magical between us and it reinvigotaed our marriage.
So good for you on having the courage to break through the wall and I hope your wife becomes as accepting as mine did. As the opportunities become endless with acceptance.
Take care and stay safe. Give your wife a hug from me.....Ellie

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Duchess
(@jjorgenson)
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Ellie, thank you for your lovely note! I hope that is exactly where this goes for us and I will give her that hug!💋

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(@chrissy5074)
New Member     Rogers, Arkansas, United States of America
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I very much loved the article. Thanks for sharing. Like all of you I love to crossdress. However, other than store associates no one knows about my desire to crossdress and be Chrissy. I wish I could tell me wife who I love dearly but I feel would never understand and accept. I would love to hear advice on how to start telling or dropping some hints.

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Duchess
(@jjorgenson)
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I thought there were lots of hints and tells that would have created more awareness. I was wrong clearly. I think one of the things I am learning is the power of our minds to see what we want to see. She didn't want to see me as anything other than my male self, so she didn't. Now, after the conversation, she needs to and that is going to take some time. Trust needs to be rebuilt to a degree around what this means and where this is going. Love her more than anything and don't want to lose her!💋

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Lady
(@dexstel)
New Member     Denver, Colorado, United States of America
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Janet, I can’t thank you enough for sharing. I’ve wanted for many years to be brave enough to share this side of me, and as time passes have more and more need to express my feminine side. Like you, I’ve been dressing since I was very young- similarities as profound. I hope to get to where you are soon. Thank you for the inspiration. ❤️

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(@jjorgenson)
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Best wishes to you! Happy Holidays!

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(@jillharris1953)
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Great article Janet. Our stories are quite similar. The difference is I haven’t had the nerve to have “the talk” with my wife as I am not sure what her reaction would be. It scares me.

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(@jjorgenson)
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You have to do what is right for you and her. Only you could know what that looks like. For now, it looks like we are moving in a positive direction. I desperately hope that continues!

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(@janedon)
Reputable Member     London, Ontario, Canada
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yup--communication is key to a great relationship- With my late wife & I it all came Early as we were introduced by people we knew when we were young-- (I went to school with my friend & she was friends with his New girlfriend-- He told her about me being Different & she told Alice (later to become my wife) -It turned out to be good for us as to become a couple -I believe that everything being Open from the beginning made all the difference--

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(@jjorgenson)
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I have envy of having this out from the beginning but I can't change time. I don't think she would have been able to get her head around it when we were younger. A lot has changed. Thanks for the note and encouragement!

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(@gracepal)
Noble Member     South Carolina, United States of America
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Janet these topics always make me recall how I “broke the news” to ALL of my SO’s through the years. I always presented being a CD as a positive thing to them. I would begin with, well, I need to tell you about a hobby I have that’s a bit different….it’s not a big deal, but it is fairly rare amongst most men. And then I would go into more details, all the while emphasizing that it’s just a small part of the successful person you happen to be with.

Several girls on CDH talk about “exuding confidence” when going out in public dressed -(Melodee comes right to mind). It’s also true when you’re discussing your crossdressing with your SO. Be confident and sure of yourself and it will go way easier. Explain to her it’s not a bad thing, just different. Different isn’t wrong.

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Duchess
(@jjorgenson)
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Estimable Member     Michigan, United States of America
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Thank you, Grace! Great advice! I don't know where it came from but I have been sharing this side of me with the confidence that it is a part of who I am. That part is not open for debate and it has its benefits! She gets a more sensitive partner with better fashion sense than most! I want her to look and feel good about herself and I am mroe prepared to help. I did share that while there aren't a ton of us out there, we are far from the isolated with this interest. Many keep it quiet so it is hard to know how many there really are. Look at me, I didn't share with the most important person in my life until now but she has been benefitting from this hobby for all the time she has known me.

Janet💋

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(@gracepal)
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@jjorgenson Exactly Janet. And not only those benefits but she knows where you’re at when you’re dressing, it’s fairly inexpensive as far as hobbies go and it’s not harmful to anyone. It’s all positives with zero negatives. What woman wouldn’t want her husband to be a crossdresser I say!😆

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Duchess
(@jjorgenson)
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Estimable Member     Michigan, United States of America
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HA! I love your optimism! Unfortunately, it can be harmful if your loved ones can't get their heads around it and take it as a personal threat or afront to the you they have always known and love.

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(@gracepal)
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@jjorgenson If my wife had a deep secret she never shared with me and I found out about it after she was gone, I would be devastated. Not about the secret itself, but the fact she concealed it all that time and felt she could not share it with me. That would bother me the rest of my life.

I think we have to go for broke and tell our spouses. Even if your wife gets freaked out - at the very least, you shared it with her. I think most spouses would agree that’s the better road to take with this.

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(@jjorgenson)
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You are a good person. I agree.

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