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As strictly an occasional crossdresser I also love my male side. There are parts of maleism in certain situations that I abhor. One is a privateish gathering of three or more males.Which happened as we raked the front yard yesterday. MMPMPC?!?!?
M - macho
M - male(ish)
P - potty
M - mouth
P - pissing
C - contest
Believe me as one of three brothers from small-town Ontario I can F-bomb and potty mouth like a five whiskeys Rambo, and I joined in. I was worried that I had pushed things a little far and one might have caught on that I was actually ridiculing them. But then again, in true maleish insecurity...they all at least pretended to buy it. I did get the "you kiss you momma with that mouth?" comment...
Why do men define their gender with crudite?.
The thing is I am certain at least one of them might have coveted that silky pink teddy/camisole I got off of Amazon last week...
How are you a faking macho?
Talk (sweetly) amongst yourselves...
Harietta,
Because of my job, hospital security, I have to go into macho mode on occasion to deal with drug seekers that come to the ER or the Pain Management clinic. I don't like doing it, but 'old grumpy' can be pretty intimidating when it is needed.
PaulaF
I work in a very macho industry, mineral exploration, lots of hard core geologists and grizzled old prospectors and a few very talented female geologists. I am happy to say that on projects I have been involved in people are generally respected and accepted as part of the team based upon their skill and work ethic, regardless of gender or orientation. There is a lot of macho behavior, but I have never felt any pressure to be a part of it and I don' t think it has cost me anything personally or professional. I have found that people often come to me if they have personal problems and I am always open to talk stuff over with co-workers.
Hi Harietta, I can never pull off being macho. I've had a babyface my whole life, I can't grow any facial hair if my life depended on it, no Adam's apple, smallish in stature, I've been mistaken for female dressed totally in drab. I dislike the coarse and crude language used by groups of males. I guess that's why I've always preferred the company of woman. I tried being macho when I was younger - joined the gun club, participated in martial arts (even won a nice big trophy), play ice hockey and football. But no luck, I never came across as macho.
Grew up in Southern Ontario as well, but moved west after I graduated from University. Love being close to the Rocky Mountains. Fantastic hiking and skiing.
Stay healthy, stay safe, Hugs, Krista
No, I never could pull it off. I've always had a feminine lilt in my voice and my body language just screams it too. I used to work in the steel industry and used to love watching the gorillas playing who's the most manly, I love playing fly on the wall and watching human behaviour. It can be very educational and quite entertaining at the same time. Another one of my favourites is sitting in a bar about midnight on a Saturday night and watching the human courtship rituals, this gets down right hilarious.
IMHO, it all depends on who one chooses to hang out with.
Prior to political correctness becoming the standard in the US Navy and Marine Corps, the "F" word was standard vocabulary, but -all- "men defining their gender with crudite"? I cannot agree with that. Before the "F" word became politically incorrect in the Navy, some sailors would use it more than others, while some sailors would not use it at all.
Post Navy, my civilian career was with a federal regulatory agency. I experienced very little "crudite" working there. However, there were exceptions.
I am totally macho at work. 3 minutes from tone out to we are out the door in truck. I am 75% maybe feminine at home but if problem comes up I think very fast and I am decisive in actions! I have never been a beer drinking bubba!
Do have to ask are female firefighters masculine? I know 2 and they can do same job as me! Have to apply with law enforcement and other first responders!. The ones I know are married and I don't approach their gender identity
Never been able to hang with gorillas. The MMPMPC thing has always been a turn off, and I assume men that carry that swagger are dolts or morons. Do I use profanity? Of course, but my now unrestricted feminine side doesn’t abide it at all, and my male side uses it in private only, reserving it for home projects gone wrong, finding dog turds in the closet, or imbecilic political views. I tell my students that although language like that may be part of their home vernacular, others in class find the language frightening and threatening, as I always have.
No machismo BS here, but, on the flip side, my girl side can talk naughty for hours (but that’s for another post! 😂).
Great question! Loving the responses. Stay beautiful, girls! Love ❤️
Tj
Not "Western" I hope. I thougtht friends didn't let their friends go to Western....ha....ha
Although London has far better bars with live music than Ottawa.
No macho here.
Anglo-Saxon expletives were never my thing. and I tend to label those who depend on them for emphasis as being illiterate clods. As a guy, I'm very much a Clark Kent, except for very rare occasions when something triggers me; and the less said about that, the better.
I knew I could never be 'macho', so I never really tried. I decided that 'Average Joe's' was my calling for my outward façade, so I worked at being just average and fitting in. My awakening to crudite behavior came when I switched schools coming into 4th grade as we moved to a neighboring elementary school district (new friends, new neighborhood, but same town). First day at a new school and an awful lot of boys had their left hand covering their privates and their right hand sticking out in sort a cup with fingers extended, and threatening to 'goose' any boy that didn't immediately cover up. Wow! My first thought was 'we moved here? I wanna go back to a sane neighborhood'. There were enough boys in all my classes starting in junior high (not the more politically correct 'middle school') and especially H.S. where in gym class we were on occasion divided by supposed physical ability. I strived to be in the middle group and mostly succeeded. One of my high points was to win my gym class Indian leg wrestling contest. I astounded the PE teacher. I understood leverage overcomes strength better than the others. Kept that understanding the rest of my life.
Hi Harietta,
I've never desired to fit amongst the chest thumping males , despite being involved with professional & semi pro body contact sports for 20 yrs. I didn't not fit in , just not interested in any pissing competitions , nor wanting to be an embarrassment to myself.
I got by fine, enjoyed myself & just avoided the Alphas , it's been the same since retirement from competitive sports. I'm simply not interested in " big boys toys " & who has the biggest p&#@s 💐💐 Tiff
Its not faking it, he's still in here and I'm good with that. I've never been one to overuse expletives but not scared of them either. As a contractor, when the hammer slips or my head hits a rafter a simple squeaky owie! or jeepers just ain't gunna cut it. I'm fairly confident that I could talk my way through most encounters with any lughead who really doesn't agree with my clothing choice but if not, I'm not petite and if necessary there are other ways to get my point accross in order to leave.
I'd say when I was younger I tried to fake being macho. I was in bands with guys who instead on looking tough and I won't deny I tried to fit in. And some people complimented me on how a portrayed myself on stage, like a man. To be honest I'm not even sure how I pulled that off. I do confess I still have a potty mouth when frustrated, but otherwise, I don't like faking being macho these days. I just want to be me regardless of what mode I'm in male or female.
I never was the macho kind of guy, avoided the confrontations most of the times and for some reason they always left me alone, even when I was on the technical school, boys only and they always tried to get under you skin and provoke you to do something stupid.
Later in life I met with an old school mate and we talked about our time on the technical school and he mentioned that most guy’s left me alone because I was wearing a denim jacket with on the back a large sticker from Bruce Lee, I am a big fan of him and all his movies yes but are not a martial artist, but apparently a lot of guys thought I was and so left me alone.
Later when I worked in the merchant navy there was a colleague who wanted to arm wrestle, and his arms were twice the size of mine, so he asked me to give it a try and yes you guessed it already he lost, maybe that's the only time I was a bit of a macho but did not showed it kept it nicely inside myself, as the humble person I am.
I do work in a male driven/occupied industry and know how to respond to certain situations but still do that on a calm and decent way instead of exploding like some of my colleagues do it’s not in my personality.
Renske