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Bastions of Feminine Sensuality?

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(@valentina16)
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Are we, as committed crossdressers, ever-exploring and ever-enjoying all manner of sensual ‘feminine’ clothing, actually the last major bastions of feminine sensual attire? Are we the crying voice in the embers of a fire which is burning itself out?

Have genetic women themselves moved on from such, apart from a small section of their wardrobe left for weddings, formal occasions, company parties and such? Is it actually women who are more accepting of ‘drab’?

Should we leave the rouge and the scarlet red lipstick and polish in dresser drawers labelled “from days gone by”?

Welcome your views.

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Duchess
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@valentina16 I think that we are the influencers of GGs Valentine.  We remind people of days gone by when women dressed up and everyone of them enjoyed doing it.  We’re just no different than the rest of the women, but we didn’t get a chance to experience what they did, so we want to do it now.  I look forward to experiencing all things in women’s fashion.

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@jennconn Couldn’t agree more ☺️

Thank you 💚

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@valentina16 I'd prefer a natural feminine look with less (= more) makeup anyday. But girls like me need some layering to make ourselves presentable, and when you start... But maybe we're not that different from GG's dressing up for special occasions? For a lot of us these are rare moments that we cherish and want to make the most of it. xxx, Astrid

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(@valentina16)
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@astridt I only ever underdress or go unisex. So have no experience of the full monty! 😌

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@valentina16 I'm sure you'll find your way, whenever you are ready ♥️

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(@valentina16)
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@astridt I’m at the ‘maybe in darkness’, ‘maybe in the car’ stage… That’s sort of enough for me now.

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@valentina16 

Every cis-woman I know is super busy.  Career.  Family.  Fitness.  A zillion responsibilities.  Most days, they don't have an extra hour (or more) to create a hyper-feminine appearance. 

On occasion, they treat themselves to a glam date night or a GNO.  There is an element of appreciation in that.  They are treating themselves AND they are treating those that they choose to spend their time with.

I can completely relate to that.  Since transitioning, I get glammed up far less often.  Most days I wear jeans and t-shirt and minimal makeup because that's all I have time for.

/LK

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@lizk The pace and demands of life.

Apologies: cis-woman please? New term for newbie me 😔

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@valentina16 

I will be grateful for the day when I can spend more time on my appearance!

Cisgender (or cis) describes a person whose gender identity corresponds to their sex assigned at birth.

Transgender (or trans) describes a person whose gender identity differs from that typically associated with the sex they were assigned at birth.

Liz xx

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(@valentina16)
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@lizk Thanks Liz. I had not come across the term Cis before, so that’s new to me. I thought transgender was someone who had had surgery, but it seems it can mean something less than, perhaps hormones, or perhaps just going en femme all the time!

Clearly a lot to learn!

Hugs

Valentina

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@valentina16 

Posted by: @valentina16

I thought transgender was someone who had had surgery, but it seems it can mean something less than, perhaps hormones, or perhaps just going en femme all the time!

Being trans can be any of those things.  We have quite a few girls that identify as trans and have socially transitioned, living full-time but won't do hormones or surgery.

Liz xx

 

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@lizk Thank you. I admit, I steered away from the ‘trans’ label, fearing surgery or boobs which I couldn’t hide. My bad. My journey.

Thank you ☺️

Happy weekend!

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Lady
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@valentina16 Like many things in the media, everybody uses the term, but not everybody really knows where it came from. Oddly enough, it's from the world of chemistry. Some molecules can have 2 different arrangements of the same atoms (elements). One arrangement is called "cis"; the other "trans". Some witty person familiar with this applied this terminology to the world in general, as the "trans" kind of speaks for itself, and whatever is not "trans" is then "cis".  

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@valentina16 Women that were designated female at birth. Non trans women/CDs.

Cerys

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Lady
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@lizk   Same here Liz.  I'm not pretty unless it's a glam event otherwise it's just dress for the work of the day.  Jeans and a top along with a ponytail and no makeup are my staple.    Just plain, Marg

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@valentina16 

 Not me. I need all the girly support items I can get. Makeup and other feminine things!

 Some GG'S  gave up on glam. And wear frumpy  sweats, hospital scrubs, pj's and other wal-martian clothes. 

 The good news is the store Makeup isles are full of girly goodies! 

 We girls must show the lost sister's the way to glam things up! 

 Fran 🥰 

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@gafran it’s great to hear there is still sufficient demand and supply. Though I have noticed that the hosiery sections are getting smaller and smaller and less options-variety, at least in the UK.

Happy weekend!

And thanks for your initial welcome. It was nice to see so many friendly messages.

Just drinking my early morning first cup of tea, looking out the window, looking for pink fog 😉

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@valentina16 

Thanks for your thanks! 

 In the states I've been to many big stores for hosiery. Pretty good selections are available. Of course there's  the usual scarcity during holidays. Plus there's many CD shops online. 

 Oh I feel the Pink Fog coming on!

 Fran 🥰 

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(@dovemtn2016)
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@valentina16 Hi Valentina, you should see the way women in my office dress. Absolutely horrible! My assistant dresses well, but her style is boho, nice on her, but that's not me. I wear a dress every day, I wear 2 1/2 heels every day, I wear nylons every day. It feels so good to be feminine!

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@dovemtn2016 The pressures of work and home life perhaps. Or maybe they’re just fed up with fending off unwanted advances?

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@valentina16 great topic, as a GG myself, I have to say a majority of the time I am basically in 'drab' myself.  I think its a combination of time and also life getting in the way.  I have though since i found out about hubby's CD and seeing him spend so much time and care on his appearance when dressing started to spend more time myself on my own appearance.  Perhaps this is this because i don't want to look bad against him, or is it because i realise how much better i can look and this has been a kick up the butt for me.

Either way, I do take more time on me.....but still do enjoy pjs and no makeup most except on special occasions.   

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@bellaz76 I thought I had replied to this but I can’t see my response, perhaps I’m going doo-dally!

I thanked you for the GG view on this, most valuable. 💚

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@valentina16 Have women given up on feminine clothes? There have been a few lamentations about this over the last year. I don't know if things are getting worse, but they certainly aren't getting any better.

My wife keeps on buying pretty maxi dresses, but it is difficult convincing her to wear them, especially when it is cold here.

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(@valentina16)
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@harriette slow-slow-catchee-monkey perhaps? 🤞🤞🤞

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@valentina16 I had to look that one up. 😇

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@valentina16 This topic is often on my mind in many different angles. I have been out fully as Cassie for over a year and a half. I usually wear a nice colorful top around the house. AND at my Church I wear a nice dress in the nice weather months (nice pants paired with a cute blouse otherwise) .

At my house, in the last couple of months my Ex, with whom I still share the house with, has started wearing more colorful, feminine tops. Usually she dresses in what I call feminine drab. 

At my Church most women were also dressing feminine drab. Infact men and women both were dressed so 'casual ' . It has been my observation that a lot more women are wearing dresses to Church or at least dressing nicer. Even the men are dressing less 'casual ' ,but a little nicer. 

Cassie 

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@loneleycd I wonder if certain cheap retail outlets (won’t name and shame!) are to blame, or at least not helping with this.

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@valentina16   We dress as we wish our female friend or SO looked like.  The golden age of the 1950s is most often referred to. To those of us married, our wife never looked more lovely than  her wedding day, thus our fixation on that outfit.   Women can dress like men and it’s socially acceptable. That acceptance is what we aspire to.  Let’s hope we don’t let the glamor die.  LOVE THE LOOK!!!

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@missylinda hear, hear! TY 💚

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@valentina16 Petticoats and lipstick are alive and well in my dressing room.

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@valentina16 For the most part, I dress to blend in with other women and I have adopted the current styles women commonly wear.   I'm big on leggings and tend to wear pastel colors and prints that are feminine in nature.  For me these clothes are "feminine drab".  In my true essence, I am a girly girl and I love to wear pretty lingerie, dresses, and heels which qualify as sensual attire.  Unfortunately though, the occasion to wear these clothes don't happen often (enough) in my life.  Am I willing to put it all aside...absolutely not!  You'll have to pry my heels and garter belts out of my hands.   Please just be careful of my nails.....I'd hate to break one!

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@lauren114 It seems to me Lauren, you may therefore be eligible for a “bastionette” badge of honour. Much like a suffragette badge in that you are sort of sticking up for sensual women’s attire. I will ask Vanessa to arrange a software update and your badge awarded with the appropriate ceremony, trumpets, ticker tape parade, lace umbrella salute etc etc - you will be leading the cheerleaders in full glam attire!!!

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@valentina16 I enjoy dressing to the nines occasionally with full makeup and a pretty dress, heels and with all that goes with it for a night out.  I wear pretty underthings as well.  If my partner is willing to take me out, I want to look my best for him and me.  On the daily I try to look as natural as I can.

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Lady
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@valentina16 perhaps we are beginning to see a revolution in the way males and females dress. It may have started with glam rock. Is that just wishful thinking on my part?

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@gorgeousgwen No, I think society is getting more diversity. I will say no more. 🤐

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To be fair here, cis women have been very nearly forced into that for decades - the demand of society to present themselves in what we now feel is this hyper-feminine look: stockings, heels, mini skirts, etc.

I think cis women today are simply forging out on their own. Taking ownership of their appearance and deciding that they, not society, are in charge of that and that they'll doll up sexy when they d@mned please, TY so VM.

We CD/TG people, on the other hand have spent decades not being able to have that look and want what that gives. Therefore both situations seem quite natural at this point.

However, I'd disagree with the idea that we're somehow keeping it alive. We certainly aren't doing it on its own merit, we're doing it because we like it. And, frankly, I think assigning it any cultural value is a bit of a misgiving to begin with.

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@melodeescarlet Maybe the pendulum will swing back the other way and sensual clothing will become more important again. For now, the pace of life is against cis women, clearly.

TY 💚

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There's a phrase I like: "For every woman eager to take off her bra, there's a man desperate to put one on." Well, I'd rather put on a bra than burn it. We've gone from a society that demanded a lot of femininity to a society that hates femininity. I think crossdressing could inspire GGs to get back on the path to femininity. I've decided to do a daily exercise: try to put on a bra every day, even if I only wear it for a few minutes. The experience of putting on and taking off a bra is one of the most feminine experiences there is.

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(@valentina16)
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@marieclaire2 I hardly ever take mine off now, even in the bath or shower! 🙄

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@valentina16 I went to a transformation store over the weekend and I fitted with triangle breast forms and a bra that fitted the breast forms I did the jiggle test pretty excited for myself 

Yes agree with you about not wanting to take the bra off 

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@marieclaire2 Oh, yes Marie.

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(@prettytoes)
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ya but you need a bra to hold your forms, they don't. i think if i had real boobs and they were firm i'd go commando. why not?

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(@valentina16)
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@prettytoes Have you tried self adhesive forms? They’re quite liberating!

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@valentina16 no i don't glue them in. they would probably fall off anyway

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@prettytoes no, they’re self adhesive, no glue required…🤪

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@valentina16 i;m fine doing it my way. i go out in public and don't care what anyone thinks, plus i have had no complaints yet in 10 years going out. played pool last night with a bunch of guys. we all had a good time. one lady came up to me and said i was the prettiest girl there. not to say there wasn't many women there. i'm ok with that

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@prettytoes playing pool wearing forms, well there’s a lovely thought-challenge! 😜

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@valentina16 it certainly is different. Had to learn a different stroke with boobs getting in the way. I really a a smile every shot.

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@robertaf go girl!! 💚

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@prettytoes that has to be so liberating being complemented and accepted

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its amazing how real woman and crossdressers are so much alike. a lot of things are fake. fake eyelashes, nails, hair, breast, lip injects, fake body shaping, nylons to make your legs look nice, make up, etc. we were all born without this stuff. how ugly would the world be if no one used any of these things.  

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@prettytoes true. 💚

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@prettytoes yes for us crossdresser being able to express our femininity is in our DNA 

It's just hard for people to understand our femininity but we don't force it down people throats we just try to live our life without bothering others 

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(@cherylt)
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We actually can't be the standard bearers for feminine sensuality.

If that were the case the companies who produce the items we love would be out of business. Ours is not a substantial enough base to support them all. We benefit from what women desire and purchase becoming prolific. There are many more of them buying these items than us. 

I thank them for their good taste.

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@cherylt trouble is, I don’t see many of them these days wearing anything sensual, like it’s gone out of fashion 😞

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@valentina16 Oh just look at the Hollywood awards, the football halftime shows or some concert. 

The average woman doesn't go out trying to look sensual, that's for home and bedroom. I don't try to look that way anymore either going out, though I once did when I was younger. I reserve that for the home front where it can be appreciated.

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@cherylt Is it lack of time or not wanting to provoke undue attention, I wonder.

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@valentina16 More of what's appropriate. If you're on the Red Carpet maybe it's ok. But trying to look sensual at the mall? It's certainly not appropriate for the workplace.

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@valentina16entina16 Tars an interesting point that you make. I think there was a period of time that advancement in the workplace.  Was easily handed to women who had the looks over the talent. Their behavior was always demeaned by most other women. Things slowly changed and now it’s mostly the other way around. It been my experience that most people. Male or female, don’t like competition. They don’t like people who out work them or dress them or even look better. Instead of improving their own game. They would rather subdue or hold back or even sabotage their competition.

It’s now gone so far that the outspoken ones have dominated the others. It takes courage and determination to go upstream when so many don’t want you too. 
I am seeing young girls breaking that mode , a lot more lately. 
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@robertaf perhaps in my naivety, I had never considered this. Thank you for enlightenment. 💚

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Posted by: @robertaf

I am seeing young girls breaking that mode , a lot more lately. 

The next time that I am in a mall I will have to do some research.

 

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@harriette It appears to the new thing. Going clothes shopping, for me, has gotten increasing more difficult to find things that I would wear. That’s not riight, I find a lot that I would wear if I was 20 something. While in my 70s I can usually pull off most anything for 50s or 40 s might wear. Consequently I buy most of my things on line, as it becoming the only way I can find things. 
however it appears the younger girls are buying the stuff. As I travel I’m seeing many more young girls dressing nicely. Even seeing the young men doing a little better too. So maybe theirs hope for a return dressing up for dinner.

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To each their own. Cis women should get to do whatever they want to do. And CDs as well.

The fem image I want to portray is from women in the past, present, and future. I love how classy my mom and her social circle used to dress.

I love how elegant, casual, comfortable my wife used to and still dresses. It's evolved to be more casual, bit it's still more fem than guy styles.

I love some of the styles and blending that the next generation is wearing. And how the gender barriers are much more fluid for them.

Regardless of how cis women dress in general today, I will always have my own fem image. My image may look slightly out of fashion, or even out of place, but it is mine and it makes me feel great.

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I was taught at a young age to dress nicely and that has been with me ever since. I will not succumb to drab female attire and will maintain the standards of the old days regardless. We may be few but must keep style alive.

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@ab123 Does this make us “bastionettes”?! Should we chain ourselves to the railings until the GG world femmes up its act? Let’s go girls!! ☺️

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I see the idea Valentina, we must redress the issue and never skirt round it......

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@ab123 Slight groan… lol. 💚

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@ab123 Stockings up on reasons to dress?

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A very interesting topic.

I think we (society) are influenced by what we see on TV, the movies, advertisements and such. Most of those show women in casual clothing sans make up or with very light make up. There are occasions where women dress up but that is usually for special occasions. Part of that is the busy lives we live and having the time to "glam up". A bigger portion is that as a society we have become more casual even to the point of lazy. I'm amazed how many people go out in their pajamas for their weekly grocery shopping and such. 

When I dress I enjoy the process of putting on a bra, panties, shapewear, stockings, make up, outfit, shoes, wig and jewelry. I am expressing my femme side the way I picture it to be. When I dress I like to wear dresses or skirt/blouse combos as, to me, that is femininity. There are others that wear jeans or slacks and a pretty top to feel femme. To each their own, the same for GG's. There was a point in time where there was an acceptable way to dress, however, those days have passed us by. 

XOXO
Suzanne

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(@valentina16)
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@cdsue I do remember the local supermarket banning peeps from coming shopping in their PJs. 

thank you 💚

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@valentina16 As well they should.😊 A friend of mine wears pj’s daily. It got to the point a few days ago where I had to say to him - dude, at least change your pjs up once in awhile. Seriously, the same old ratty ones every day? I would say that the latest fashion trend for most of the 2000’s so far is laziness. It’s all the rage🥰

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@gracepal clearly ambitions of being a moderator, at least IRL! ☺️

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@cdsue it amazes me how sloppy so many people dress when going out to dinner. Even at white linen restaurants. I see people out for dinner looking like they are on their way to Saturday kids soccer game. T shirts and gym shoes are often seen. 
it used to be a thing to get dressed up and go out.

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@robertaf To your point Roberta, the guy in pjs I referred to in my above post. We were out to dinner once in a NICE restaurant. He looked so trashy I thought we would not get seated, but we did. As we perused menus he says- is it me or is everyone staring at us? I said it’s you. People are wondering how a homeless guy can afford to dine here. Or they think I’m treating you to a nice meal.

He complains about it sometimes but obviously loves being the center of attention. He’d make for a great crossdresser 🥰.

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@gracepal I have a brother like that. He seeks out controversy on anything he can. Politics, morals, religion, child rearing and not to mention his choice of clothes. He thrives on it. 
im not totally sure he is my brother, that’s just what my parents told me.

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@robertaf I have 3 children and quite a few grandchildren. I have seen that not one of them is alike in temperament or approach to life. But that is probably for discussion on a different site.

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@robertaf I think every family has one. They like to play the role of contrarian. Even when you know and they know they couldn’t really care less about what they’re supporting. They just want to argue or be in the middle of it.

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Although I never thought I would dare, I felt a peak of feminine sensuality while modeling two evening gowns during the Esprit Fashion Show in Port Angeles last year. It was an experience I will never forget and it really served to boost my self-esteem. I don't think it had much to do with my classy way of dressing that day but with my intense feminine feelings.
It's no secret that I hope to repeat it.

Gisela

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@firefly wow, that is so cool!! 💚

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Women are still women, and as such are still always trying to out do each other. It is just done in different ways. While many still my waer red lipstick, these days there are trying to out do each other's yoga pants or other such items.

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@jjandme Yoga pants? That’s a slight 👎 from me. Or am I missing something 🤓

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@valentina16 I dunno VV…I used to agree but I do notice some very favorable displays of skintight spandex now and then. It’s definitely improved. And as always, totally depends on who’s doing the wearing.

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I was just pointing out that yiga pants are a major fashion trend. Anytime something that can be very basic, and cheap, suddenly is a major fashion item that can cost $100 plus and spur whole new fashion companies tells me women are still happy to one-up each other...think Lululemon or Athletica.

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@jjandme There was a girl, 40-ish, a few weeks ago who had on the hottest, co-ordinated legging/top ensemble I’ve ever seen. I couldn’t help myself - I told her I just want to thank you for wearing that outfit here and brightening up my day. She loved it. Whenever people are trying - I want to encourage them. Men or women.

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@gracepal …and good for you!! Take a bow and an extra gold star, maybe even a shield or two. My life-lesson management mantra of ‘Praise the positive, coach the negative’ is clearly in full force even across the pond! This mantra btw helped my almost rejected B team rugby wannabes beat the A team divas at the end of the season playoffs. One of my proudest moments in life. I might mention it a few times in the future. In fact, I think I should include it with pride of place in my profile here, just for the avoidance of doubt of course. 🤓

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@valentina16 Nice! Love it! Similarly I managed a softball team this past fall where at one point someone asked me: “How has your team won ANY games this season?”…we were playing so poorly. Long story short we ended up league champions. Praise the positive is right. I just found a book called “Inner Excellence” that has a different take on winning and losing that I love. It can be applied to anything in life. Even crossdressing.

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@gracepal True, so true. I do it at work too. I build their self esteem sometimes to the point they might put on red tights and a Superman outfit, just because their emboldened and empowered self can. The results are quite quite humbling sometimes. 💚

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Just got back from a friend’s birthday party, so glad to see at least a third of the women wearing glam, lovely nylons in one case, best bras, nice makeup, matching jewellery etc. Lovely to see. ☺️

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@valentina16 1/3rd? Wow, that’s unheard of here in the states anymore. I’d have been doing backflips and wiping the drool off my chin.🤣

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@gracepal Seriously?! *note to self: Give Grace a wide berth at the next convention!* 🤣

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@valentina16 That’s funny right there🤣. Srsly VV, crossers are the ones keeping pantyhose/tights alive over here. I keep watching and waiting for a comeback but it ain’t happening. Unless you are at the airport watching the flight attendants walk by or at Hooters checking out the servers, you don’t see any.

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@gracepal Hooters, now that I must admit WAS an experience thrust upon me, quite enjoyably as I recall, in a non patriarchal or leering way. A bit like being invited to go with everyone to see The Rocky Horror Show for the first time. I didn’t in all my then innocence quite understand all the wink-wink-nudge-nudge probing Qs “Well, have you decided what “to wear” yet?!”

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@valentina16 I have no problem stating that I only enjoy Hooters in a patriarchal and leering way. It’s the only reason they exist VV. They certainly aren’t known for the quality of their food.🥰

I never really got into the whole Rocky Horror thing even though is was to do with crossdressing. Just never grabbed me. I guess I take my cd-ing too serious🤣!

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@gracepal At least you’re honest. I was the person who at a stag (bachelor) outing, we ended up ‘of course’ at a strip club with ‘dancing’. A pretty lady approached me and asked me to dance (aka take my coat off to enable my wallet to be picked and emptied). I declined but got talking to her, trying to find out what she was really like. She was clearly on message that this guy had to a) show her where his money was secreted and b) get a donation. She offered to take her top off for a sum. I countered with “how about I pay you NOT to take your top off?”. She persisted, I gave her $20 or so, she then asked me for $40. I explained as politely as I could (F off) that this was not going to happen. All the other guys had their wallet picked. I didn’t 😇.

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@valentina16 Sometimes a polite (F off) is all that’s required as you so aptly put it🥰(Loved that!)

There are many ladies I would happily give $20 to not take their tops (or anything else) off…Or to keep their spandex ON. As that’s the only thing holding it all in.😊

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@gracepal Which reminds me of the nudist beach in Gran Canaria, where (let’s be honest, they’re not here!) the Germans, in their later years, both male and female should really conform with all that is good and beautiful and for chrissakes COVER up!! Wrinkles Anonymous were having a field day! 🤪

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@valentina16  Nudism is about body acceptance. Best, Marlene.

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@marleneroberts True. Though they were on a family beach.

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@gracepal re Rocky Horror, twas quite a larf. All these guys, experimenting with corsets, fishnets etc, most probably but not necessarily for the first time, had arrived en masse, guffawing and bravado abundant. Until the end of the show, when they all dispersed, to go their own separate ways, without coats or a change of attire, alone, at the back of the bus, wishing for a hole they could hide in, to transport them invisibly home. 💚

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@valentina16 Yeah, I think it was all that audience interaction that put me off it. I’m not really a “crowded groups” kinda guy/gal. Once a group gets past 4 or so it starts to become a box of chaos. A cacophony of noise for me.

I can relate to the nudist beach situation. I had one recently in St Lucia. All I could think was - cover up, you’re hideous! (That’s why we crossers always appreciate pretty bras.) I’ve always been of the mindset with my ladies of “keep your clothes on baby, I can work around them😊)

We kinda hijacked the thread with our personal convo here VV. But WTH, it’s your thread so I’m safe🥰

 

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@gracepal It did cross my mind but at the risk of rubbing things in even further or even insanity, I was building up for yet another spinoff Q: at what point does a Question become a Chat Room without any doors?” Lol. I haven’t been ‘moderated’ yet, so perhaps it’s “ok”!🤞

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@gracepal  Nudist beach comment: How about not going or not looking? Best, Marlene.

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@marleneroberts Valid comment Marlene. Had no idea it was a topless beach until two chicks planted their loungers right in front of ours about a yard away. Then stood on their towels facing us and stripping down. As with many of the younger set today, it was “all about them.” (Probably thought we would take pics of them)

So yeah, my friend and I took a walk and went and had lunch. By the time we got back to pack it up our friends were boobs down in the sand snoring.🤣

 

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