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I recently watched another tv show that have a crossdresser/transvestite in it and once again it was of course a homosexual person who have to die in aids before long.
To me it seems like every time cross dressing comes up in tvshows or movies it is because
- humor/comic part, as punishment, a dare, to hide or desperation of some kind
- homosexual and often also want to transition to women (MtF) but doesn't have the $$ for it or just not done it yet.
and if #2 it's common that the person gets HIV -> AIDS also.
Out of all the cases I never seen
- a women that want to transition to a mail (FtM)
- a heterosexual person who does it just because it feels right like me and the majority of cd her on cdh.
(Reminds me a little of M*A*S*H where womens underwear was hanging all over the place but male underwear where completely banned from even being mentioned)
Am I just watching the wrong stuff or is this as common as I think it is?
Is it anything we can do about it?
/kt
Hi Kelly,
The script writers do this because they are lazy, and it's easy for them...and IMO, there are very few writers anymore who have real talent.
In the past, many special interest groups have had success with mail-in complaints to the networks and/or sponsors. They can be surprisingly successful. I recall some Indians who objected to how the Indian goddess Vishnu was presented in the TV show Xena. They got an apology and script changes. I'm not sure our PR image will allow us to do that, yet, but it doesn't hurt to try.
Hugs,
Bettylou
Hi Kelly
Check out the following for a completely different view
Just like a woman
Also the Danish Girl
The first is really a romantic comedy; the second is a much more serious approach to the whole transgender issue.
In England we are getting Ru Pauls Drag Race UK and although some, if not all, of the competitors are gay the show does seem to generate acceptance of cross dressing and we have two great icons and exponents of cross dressing in Eddie Izzard (see https://www.comedy.co.uk/people/news/6133/eddie-izzard-pronouns/ ) and Grayson Perry (See https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2357968/Eyebrows-raised-cross-dressing-artist-Grayson-Perry-BBC-lecture-deep-humanity-work.html )
Love and hugs as always
HildaRuth 💋💋
Thanks for sharing Kelly
Personally I feel it goes a long way to explaining why being open and honest about cross dressing is so hard for us.
Mainstream Film, TV and media have, as you say, portrayed cross dressers as homosexual, or a comical character, or deviant in some way!!! So frustrating.
These portrayals have perfused, almost subliminally into our culture, making us fear being honest, in case the heterosexual among us are wrongly labelled as homosexual, or are seen as a comical caricature of a woman, or seen as deviant in some way.
❤️Bianca
There are movies and shows that deal with cross dressing in a far more poignant and down to earth manner:
The short film of the David Walliams book : The Boy in a Dress is aimed at children, but I found it deeply moving, despite the rather farcical nature - especially the nice twist at the end.
And the Television series, Gentleman Jack, which is currently being filmed for season 2, dealing with the FtM cross dressing lesbian, Ann Lister, who left incredible early 19th century diaries of her adventures and feelings.
There are many books about her, as well as publications of the diary material that has so far been translated from Ann's devious and complex coding.
This totally opens up the whole gamut of "queerness" in history, putting the Purity movement of Jane Ellis Hopkins into stark contrast.
I find it fascinating - and a whole (real) world away from the tiresome stereotypes.
Love Laura
Hi Kelly
Great topic!!
I think Bianca and Bettylou nailed most of it!
By means of all the lazy stereotyping in mainstream media, we're painted as a bunch of weirdos and perverts! Couldn't be further from the truth!
What can we do about it??
Get out there and prove people wrong, one at a time! I love the reactions when I state that I'm straight, love women and am just a damn non-conformist! LOL!
Their eyes grow to the size of dinner plates, and their jaw usually hangs open for a moment! Once they compose themselves, they're OK.
XO Robyn 😁❤️💃
That is my perceptions as well, but as others have pointed out, there are exceptions to that. Though I do seem to think Betty Lou is right where the writers take the easy road, knowing it will be accepted by the audience.
I have mixed feelings about Drag Race. Yes it is kind of fun, and many are gay, and it brings crossdressing more into mainstream entertainment, which is good, but I think it also typecasts us as what we aren't.
Amy
Yes, drag queens of different kind exist and they aren't all gay but they are pushing one other aspect of crossdressing - show off.
Personally it's hard to explain what I feel. I like to wear skirt/dress and heels but it's not so much to show off, just to wear it. I would never want to be on any kind of stage (drag or drab) and given that I'm in the closet I can clearly say it's not to show of to anyone else (my wife is not impressed except that I wear heals better than her).
I agree with that it's probably script writers that are lazy, they don't bother finding out the truth of anything and even if they do they write for an audience that has expectations that they must fulfil no matter if they are true or not (like all the noise in space or that when you are shoot with a simple gun you fly far back while the shooter stand still - I call it movie physics).
/kt
And then it's just the issue of daring to go out and not be scared of being read or outed.
It's a bit of a paradox, we don't dare to go out because of what public seems to expect from us and their expectation can't change unless we go out and show them.
/kt
Your absolutely right. People's perception cannot change unless we help them to change it!
Believe me...
I wish many of you Girls were in metro Phoenix, or I could travel without $$$ being an issue.
I would invite you out to go have a good time. Once you get out a couple of times, those fears are long gone!
XO Robyn 🤗❤️
Robyn
I think us "older" girls share your courage. Once it becomes clear to us that there are only so many days left on this planet, it gets easier to make yourself happy rather than worry about what others think/say/do. You are an inspiration. Keep living your authentic you.
Nikki
What a great idea.. Although, I would love to join you in the Phoenix area (logistics and the health crisis restrictions make it difficult), Ladies who may have CD friends may get together in an area closer where they live..here on Long Island, NY, We are waiting for the right moment...
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Gabriela
Your definitely right on all of what you said. There's almost always a select few that will screw it up for the rest of us.
You know...self acceptance and confidence could use its own topic or forum. There's so much that can be said.
I do wish greater self-acceptance and love for all the Girls here. There are a lot of sweet and genuine people out there.
Robyn 🤗❤️
So true, Nicole;
Knowing that my clock is running out, I have adopted the philosophy of "I'm -- years old. and I can do anything I d**n well want to". And people understand that, and more-or-less accept it.
Hugs,
Bettylou
Can I add two sub-categories.
1. Serial Killers. Psycho, Dressed to Kill, Silence of the Lambs, Sleepaway Camp, etc.
2. The "Straight man attracted to woman only to discover..." trope (possibly react violently or aggressively).The Crying Game, Trainspotting, Alan Partridge, Shakespeare, Nuns on the Run.
