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Hi Ladie's,
So, I asked this on TGH earlier today but I have not yet got a reply.
Today, my trans girl friend and I went shopping at several stores and I must say, she is very, very pretty. So, two girls out shopping and we really noticed just how rude men can be towards woman. My parents taught me to hold the door for a lady, allowing her to pass first. Hold a womans chair when she's sitting down. If a lady drops something, pick it up for her. You guys know what I'm talking about, chivalry!! Now, while out, we had young men walk directly in front of us as we walked thru the doorway entering the mall, almost tripping my friend once. One older man tried to take cuts in front of us in a check out line, (common snowbird behavior). It seemed like it was one rude experience after another and we could not blame it on transgender disrespect as my friend is, and looks, 100% female. If I were alone, I might write it off to my male appearance but that was not the case. Men no longer practice chivalry or the ones that do are the minority in todays world.
So, How many of you experience the same thing while out en femme or, is this just my imagination??!
Hi Breanna,
I believe in chivalry whole heartedly,
However I am not sure about this younger generation.
I have noticed in general as a society people are in such a hurry they become rude at times.
I have also have days where every body seems polite and other days everybody seems rude.
What about you?
Patty
Glad you mentioned this topic, Breanna.
Chivalry and common courtesy are almost dead, even here in the deep south, where ladies used to be treated with extraordinary courtesy. Young men cut in front of me all the time and never hold doors. There are exceptions, mostly depending on where I go.
When I am treated like a lady, it is impressive, because a man will hold the door for me, call me ma'am, and tip his hat, but that is old school stuff, very rare these days.
Peggy Sue
Oh I understand Bobbi,
If I was living a total feminine life as you I wouldn't practice chivalry and your standards as you posted below are exactly where I would be and are nice.
Hi Breanna , I've found its it's all generations that have lost manners , I'll always hold a door for a lady , unfortunately in most occasions there's not even an acknowledgement that it's been done , the worst in my experience older ladies . I will continue to open doors etc but now if there's no thanks , I'll loudly say " you're welcome " to them ,my wife has had a go at several ladies who have just ignored my chivalry.
I'll often open the passenger door for my wife as well & always usher her through a door first. Just how I was raised...I'm 51 BTW 😊 Tiff
In my opinion I think the women movement has killed the chivalry in most young men. Today's woman wants to be treated as equal and doesn't want the doors opened for them or the chair held. I guess the gg's killed it for all of us girls.
As for me, I'll still open the doors, get the car door, and sit my wife first.
I was raised to be polite, especially to women, but these days you just never know how people will react. Some people may appreciate your manners and thank you, some people might get offended. Usually its something in between.
I have never believed in chivalry, I believe in equality. I also believe in being a decent to everyone. if I go through a door and there is someone a few steps behind me I'll hold the door for them, young old, male female... why should it matter? If someone has their hands full, whether it is a little old lady, or a big burly delivery guy I'll run ahead and grab the door. I feel that these little gestures add a little brightness to peoples days and when enough people do it it makes the world feel a little more friendly.
I have been told off for holding a door for someone on a few occasions. every time it was a female who was insulted that I held the door for her.
It was certainly wrong of that guy to try and cut in line in front of you, but was it because of your feminine presentation or simply that he is an ignorant jerk? I find this time of year very polarizing, it brings out the worst and the best in people. I was driving home on Christmas eve and an elderly woman was walking in the snow at the side of the road when her foot went in a hole and she fell on the side of the road. several cars passed before I reached her. i stopped and put on my hazard lights and jumped out to help her to her feet while traffic continued to stream past. One other person stopped, also a man, and he offered to take her to the store.
I hope people are more courteous next time you are out, but you will always run into those that only think about them selves.
DeLora.
Hi Breanna,
I work in a male dominated field.
Years ago we had a woman on the crew I was on and she was gay.
There is nothing wrong with that.
However if a man opened a door for her she would get furious.
I guess she wanted to be treated equal always
One old guy would try to sneak and open the door for her just to aggravate her.LOL
I always thought she was a little too sensitive.
Patty
Yes Bobbi, I so agree!! And when anyone, male or female, shows me the courtesy to hold the door for me, I ALWAYS Thank them. And I am not above holding the door for someone, seating my SO even when we are out as girls, which is always these days. And Thank you for your contribution!
I agree that the younger generation has no chivalry towards woman, but thefe are so many self serving people of my generation also. I live in a retirement/snowbird community here in Apache Junction, Arizona, so I still have OLDER gentleman who show courtesy regularly. So Patty, I agree, some days are better than others but there is a breakdown in the moral fiber of America these days and maybe the entire way. We did not learn from the mistakes of the Romans!!
I have experienced being stared at by men, but I'm not sure if this is due to attraction or because I've been clocked and I'm a curiosity. In either case, it makes me feel uncomfortable, despite sometimes feeling flattered. It's a bit odd.
As for other incidents, I've not experienced much in the way of rudeness by men.
I will say that crossdressing has made me a better man, and since my thirties I've been much more cognizant of my interactions with women. I also feel I understand women a little more, though I don't want to overstate that because being a woman, I feel confident in saying, is so much more than the clothes and decorations that adorn her body!
Alexandra,
You are so right Hon!! There is so much more to being a woman than just wearing the clothes. There is an energy or a vibe that each and everyone one of us gives off that goes beyond the walk, the talk and the clothing. It is something very deep that comes from your soul that says I am male or I am female. It is a feeling we must first have ourselves before we can project it to others although perfume and female pheramones help if your trying to pass.
Patty, very
I have met people like that and I don't understand why people cause such a fuss over something so trivial. Don't sweat the small stuff is how I roll....LoL
I agree with Alysha, and perhaps some others here (?)
I think for the most part, men are no longer "chivalrous" because they are constantly brow beaten now with how "woke" women are.
Women are constantly telling men they are at fault for everything; women are better; and so many workplaces now are slanted by human resources to favor the needs/wants/desires of women employees.
So men no longer hold doors open?
I can't say I blame them at all. Like...AT. ALL. Women either take special treatment for granted or they react angrily. A friendly, grateful "thank you" is pretty much unheard of.
But of course, I love men (I mean L O V E them haha) and I'm not the biggest fan of women...so I'm biased on this topic I suppose.