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Yesterday my therapist had me take the Gretchen Rubin Four Tendencies quiz which with I am sure some of us are familiar. My results were "rebel," - the least common of the four results, and I am wondering if this is a type more well-represented than usual in our community.
I think these traits may be apparent given some of my recent activity given my feelings about expectations of both men and women and discomfort with labels and communities around them. Perhaps I am not alone in rebellious tendencies which make me want to remove myself for the masculine while lacking the need to fully absorb the feminine and feeling perhaps the most discomfort in adopting some kind of "in between" (aka non-binary) classification.
Ironically, the latter would be pretty convenient given all my facial/body hair, but I just don't think they go together... That seems like a cliched and uninspired form of rebellion, but I'll keep my pits just as I would had I been born with different bits...
In other words, I feel like most people are pretty indifferent towards their sex and gender. Trans people would be the strongest exception, to have such conviction to say “no, this is not right, and I must change,” which from my perspective is likely to include a lot of conformity. Someone in a position like mine may not qualify as “indifferent,” but it reflects the same kind of non-commitment to gender roles just without the conformity.
Sadly, it’s a deadly combination for being oneself and gets pretty dark. This is one reason I why I think children should be able to explore. How many tomboys did you know to grow up into “normal” women? Had I been able to wear a dress and be as girly as possible whose not to say I would have been *more* comfortable as an adult just accepting “this manly stuff just works better with my natural appearance”?
Hi Aoife !
I would say you strike me as a bit of a rebel but in the sense that you don't seem to take things lying down. I get the feeling that if someone crossed you, you would be in their face pretty fast. I don't see you as j-walking just to "stick it to the man" kind of a rebel. Just about everyone j-walks when they feel safe doing it, but just as a convenience not a social statement if you know what I mean.
I do have to disagree with the fact that I don't really think most people are indifferent towards their sex and gender. I think think that most are well aware by puberty and can see how their sex and gender shapes their lives and influences what they do. Unless I misunderstood your statement somehow.
I had to take the test..... I got obliger for a result. What's funny is I think I would have preferred any of the other 3 results over obliger. I don't know why.
I had to give an email address to get the results on the site I took the test on. I gave them "idontwanttogivemyemail@youwillhavetoguess.com". Doesn't sound like something an obliger would do to me.
Hugs
Autumn
<p style="text-align: left;">A part of me wonders if giving so many contradictory answers was a part of it. I definitely felt like there was a lot of that going on. I did not think about it too much as I went through it - I guess that proves I’m not a “questioner” like my wife.</p>
Perhaps it’s just me, the crossdresser who at times wants to just throw away all my masculinity and be the woman I have idealised, but I have a hard time believing that most people, had they been born with the opposite bits would fight nature and society to be the opposite gender. I can easily imagine fantasising about being a boy had I been born a girl. Is it the privilege or is it just that women get to be pretty and in touch with the positive, I don’t know. Seems there is just a lot about how people see the world that is unimaginable to me...
ultimately i don’t really find myself inherently rebellious, there is just a lot I won’t stand for and I do regret many of the times I just went with where I was pushed, but as I gain more perspective, I really don’t think it was ever me.
I took the test and came back as an obligor. The results almost hit it on the head, especially that I will give up my hard earned free time to help friends and do what I don't want to, even if I have plans for myself. Very insightful quiz, and glad I read this post about it. It can really make you think about who you really are, and how others may see you.
I came back as a rebel which surprised me.I would have perceived myself as an obliger.If someone told me what to do in the wotrkplaceI would do it without question.If someone told me what to do outside the workplace I would still do it but it would be undertaken under unspoken protestI don't see myself as a rebel.What I didn't do when completing the quiz is relating to me as a crossdresser.Throughout ,I tended to atttribute to my life outside crossdressing.I think I focused more on my experience in the workplace and my dealings with colleagues friends and family members
Oh it was the same for me, I didn’t think about crossdressing at all while taking it - none of the questions put that in my mind at all, but the result of rebel just got me thinking about it and if that’s got anything to do with it.
Aolfe, You piqued my curiosity, so I took the test, and it returned "Rebel". Not a surprise, because people have been calling me that most of my life. As for how it relates to CD, I find that since I recognized that I am a CD, I'm embracing the concept and caring less each day what others may think about it. Probably going to cause me trouble someday soon. One exception. Made an agreement with my wife about the limits to my dressing, and I WILL keep it. Rebel or not, promises are inviolate.
Bettylou
I feel the same way about that. I try very hard not to let my rebellious tendencies not interfere with what matters most and at least dressing has been one of the easier areas for that.
what I’m wondering is for you think your rebel tendencies may have sparked your desire to dress in the first place, as in when gender roles first begin to be understood in childhood?
I think at all confused me early on, but as a teenager though I never got to dress I would take on feminine accessories in something of a defiant way which I think reflects this.
According to the quiz I have an 'upholder' tendancy, which I can agree with....at times. Its a situational thing and depends on a current frame of mind.
Aolfe, I think we are back to "which came first, the egg or the chicken?" question. I only know that I perceive the world differently from most folks, and I have a strong stubborn streak. I can recall not having the "girls all have cooties" attitude common to pre-teen boys, which led to me wearing a dress one time only, when twin girl playmates asked me to. The second time I dressed was about 5 years later, when I as trying to figure out who and what I was. Then, the urge to dress submerged and vanished, until recently; and the more I explore it, the more I embrace it...and here I am, being a rebel, again. The only difference is that this time, I'm not alone. I like that.
Bettylou