LP 's or CD' s

Both, still got a lot of old vinyl but CDs for newer stuff(they are cheaper than vinyl) and CDs for the car.

On a side note I am on the hunt for a new car soon, had my current one 11 years. To my dismay found you cannot buy a new car nowadays with a CD player😡only Bluetooth wireless connection to stream music.

Do you think these big car companies are in cahoots with apple and other streaming services to kill CDs to force us to use (and pay for) streaming services? just like tapes were killed off to stop us recording our own music! Or am I just a paranoid old dinosaur?🤣🤣🤣

❤️Bianca

No your absolutely right Bianca, and the big businesses are trying to kill of the ability to pay cash too.

I lost Vinyls in a move too Holly, bloody annoying.
Lol Amanda xx

Hi Amanda,

A great question!  Never liked how the higher frequencies are cut off when remastering a CD.  The scratches And pops  on a vinyl lip add So much character too.  And the lp’s being larger have the larger cover jacket.  One can enjoy the cover art on a vinyl album.

One final thing:  Looking for an older lp at a record show/convention or on line is fun.  Not everything has been rereleased onto a CD and isn’t available.

Alice

Totally on your wave link Alice,and record fairs and shops are so much fun to explore for early Vinyls too.
Lol Amanda xx

Hi Amanda,

So very true!  Just listening to the music releases at a vender’s booth/table can lead to an unexpected discovery.

I recall one store I visited in a college town.  The owner had bootleg tapes/cd’s  for sale of a local band’s concert.  Had they been on the floor for sale the local constables would have busted the shop and goodbye music finds.

Alice

Amanda my vote will always go to Albums,  Records.  Vinyl,  45's,  LP's, EP's!!  There is some musically primal connection about queuing up an album on the turntable....  my cassettes are wearing out; 8 tracks long gone, but I'll never give up my albums!  They may not sound technically better, but they sound more "real".  And as Alice pointed out, album covers were an art form. 🙂

VS* Stevie

* = vinyl spinning 😊

Good question. I grew up listening to vinyl records so I have a soft spot for LPs and occasionally still play and listen to them. However, I play and listen to CDs more often.

Music nerd here!

High frequencies are not as "stripped" on CD as they are on LP - vinyl has a narrower tolerance, so is compressed at both ends.

CD audio has a much higher frequently range.

I don't care for digital mastering either - it almost invariably sounds brittle and less "warm" than analogue.

Reel tape has the "best" sound to my ears, but, since decent Teac and Studer decks are out of my league, and cheap ones sound nasty because of the horrendous pre-amps, I will stick to my collection of around 3,000 vinyl LPs.

The best sounding are the 1960s and early 1970s first pressings, as the first 10,000 or so we're always pressed on purer vinyl, packaged in nicer sleeves, and the mastering was as the original engineers and the band wanted.

Great example is Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the moon - the first press sounds totally unlike later, fiddled with pressings.

Beatles Rubber Soul and Led Zeppelin II were mastered so loud they made cheap record players jump - and, since most people had cheap players, both got remastered more quietly.

Digital is way more accurate than analogue - but then an analogue medium will do better justice to music recorded analogue, because it kinda blurs over the "hairy" bits (where harmonics or other tiny details miss a precise tick of the digital clock, or bend slightly over a given pitch, for example).

Vinyl can only cope with something like 20Hz - 16Khz in tone frequencies.

Digital is a staggering amount better than that - although most of this is outside our normal hearing range. Above 16Khz is known as "air", and it contains the sizzle of cymbals, guitar harmonics and so on.

CD audio in fact copes up to 20Khz, by co-incidence, the same as recording studio microphones - so it ought to be better, but I agree, it's not.

Let's differentiate between CD audio, which is a fixed compression algorithm, and digital audio, which is a different ball game altogether.

Uncompressed digital audio will knock your socks off.

If you heard a RAW digital transfer of, say, Queen's Night at the Opera, you would hear every detail the band recorded, not the mush that ended up on the vinyl.

Really, there's so much going on in that music (I'm not saying it's good here, even though I think it is - but that it's very, very complex for rock music), that vinyl cannot possibly do it justice.

Night of Queen go some way, in this digital video, to showing how amazing this song can sound when mixed a bit better and less compressed - but restricted to a 16-part choir, there's still detail missing:

There - the reward for reading all that stuff I wrote...

😍😍😍😍😍

No Bianca you are not a paranoid old dinosaur or even middle aged dinosaur!  Were I to share my feelings over the disappearance of CD players in cars I would surely be banished from the site.  Let's just say I don't #!*@!!$%##!*#&@**$#!!  like it.  Bunch of money grubbing, no good, evil schweinhund wankers forcing unwanted tech down my throat.

Cordially yours, 😁

Stevie

Funny about the CD pun!
I go both ways LOLOL

Hi Amanda, love the topic.

Well, I pretty well had all the different mediums - vinyl, 45s, cassette, 8-track, CDs, heck even some 78s.  Those 78s are long gone; broken, they were so brittle and shattered easily plus I don't have a player for those.  Same with 8-tracks, the player is long gone.  My collection of vinyl has really, really shrunk over the years. Pretty much do an annual purge donating the old classics to charity.  Cassettes and CDs are also going the way of the dodo bird (I've started to purge those too).  My new Toyota doesn't even come with a CD player - everything is digital.  The nostalgia part of my brain will always have a soft spot for vinyl and I'm sure like most of the gals here who are in their 60s, have all the first releases of the classic albums.  But in terms of sound, I am blown away by some of the digital recordings I've heard.  I hear instruments and sounds on digital recordings that I've never heard on cassette or vinyl.  So every once in awhile, I will turn on the turntable and spin a few of the vinyl or 45 recordings.  But it's not an everyday occurrence like digital which is just a click of the mouse.   Thanks for the bringing back memories Amanda.  Take care, have a lovely rest of the week, Hugs, Krista.

Interesting reading Laura, thank you.
Gosh, 3,000 vinyl LP's that is some collection, and your absolutely right about the quality of equipment required to achieve the best results either way.
Amanda xx

Hi Amanda,

I've stopped worrying about data compression and lossy algorithms and expensive amps, and so I'm down to

Old LPs for decoration
CDs for the car
YouTube for my music / videos

... and one of these days I might start streaming. Maybe mañana.

Marti xxx