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Not a she nor a he

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An American female athlete has declared herself non binary,and has taken offense at a broadcaster calling her a "she" and has stated that from now on wants to be known as "They"

What would you want to be called or identified as rather than "She, her, him or he". Maybe" Them, were, was, when "what would use use to define you and your identity?

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(@aliceunderwire)
Illustrious Member     Near Burlington, Vermont, United States of America
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Hi Amanda,

I’ve heard a Canadian M2F soccer athlete Feels the same way.  The preference is they.

Alice

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As I’m presenting so she her when in Tasha mode and he him in dude mode. Simple really.

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Hello honey...

So glad you got logged in ..and are still here at the cutting edge...xx.

If " They" won a gold medal, would they have to share it, or would it belong to " it " or maybe " Those" could do a lap of honour...with " Them", all holding hands....sometimes it does make you think.

I would always settle for being called "she"...yes please....

Do you remember when Prince wanted to be known as Symbol..because he was tied to Warner brothers...

Well, I'm pretty much tied to panties....but I prefer Grace.

Commando Scarlett xx

 

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Alice....

so if a commentator says " they " were all over the opposition....it could have been a one man/ woman team??

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(@aliceblack)
Honorable Member     Massachusetts, United States of America
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The best part of the Quinn story(the transgendered athlete you referred to) is she may be part of the gold medal winning team. Canada beat US 1-0 and is now going on to compete for the gold medal in the womens soccer final.

Hubbard the weight lifter from New Zealand did not do so well, She bowed out early in her competition. The overwhelming media attention she got may have had something to do with her poor performance.

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(@aliceunderwire)
Illustrious Member     Near Burlington, Vermont, United States of America
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Yes Grace, and confusing to follow the commentator.

Alice

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As for myself wanting to be called a she. specially in November. Most people now call me a she anyways.

Donna

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(@miaprincessatheart)
Estimable Member     El Paso, Texas, United States of America
Joined: 4 years ago

When I'm dressed en femme "she", when I'm in boy mode "he". I don't get upset about things like that.

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(@melissa65)
Eminent Member     Bristol, Avon, United Kingdom
Joined: 4 years ago

Preferentially I would prefer her or she as a pronoun, being married and not being dressed femme as much as much as I would love to be makes that preference bit more awkward.  Though saying that even dressed in male mode before now I have been mistaken as a woman.   So being female regardless of being in male mode at times...makes more comfotable.. I simply prefer being addressed as female.

 

Best Regards

 

Melissa

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(@birel)
Honorable Member     Iowa, United States of America
Joined: 5 years ago

It takes a little getting used to and could potentially lead to confusion in certain circumstances. But in reality, most of us have been using "they" as singular for ages. If I was talking to someone and said, "I talked to my doctor the other day." Their response would often, if not usually, be something like, "Oh, what did they say?" This is a completely normal and accepted usage, when the gender of whomever is being referred to is not known. So, for someone who is non-binary, the announcer absolutely should respect their pronouns and use "they," if that is what they use.

For me personally, I like to be referred to by whatever pronouns best reflect how I am presenting. If I am in drab, he/him/his are fine with me. If I am dressed or partially dressed en femme, I am on cloud nine when someone refers to me with she/her/hers. That being said, I personally always have a smile on my face, or at least I'm smiling on the inside, when referred to as feminine, regardless how I am dressed. But, that's just me.

Birel

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(@ohlivialivin)
Noble Member     Norfolk, Ontario, Canada
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I am not more than one person so the lable "they" is not fitting.

Even a person with a multiple personality disorder is normally, to my knowledge not titled with it.  Even if they were, you would have to know them well enough to know they had the disorder to be aware of the need to use it.

Its one of those confusing 'yikes' things. If expectations are that everyone in everyday life should know whom is transgender and what  that specific persons prefered pronoun is, than the answer is easy,

Expectations are FAR too high.

Its a simple thing to get he or she wrong, especially these days with all the blended variations, mistakes happen, and I think some of those who are extremely adamant about others using very specific labels, such as 'they' when addressing them do it on purpose knowing many will get it wrong, just so they can make noise. As Admiral Ackbar said, in the more literal non derogatory sense.

It's delightful when I'm addressed as she or her when I'm presenting more femme but I know how cofusing it can be out there and I am not at all offended when people might inadvertantly get it wrong. If and when its obviously done on purpose to offend, humiliate or embarass a person, well now thats a different kettle of fish, with quute a different outcome.

I actually prefer either one of my names being used, but again you'd have to know me or know of me. The commentators do know the athletes names and could have saved themselves some trouble by simply using that, to be safe(r).

Olivia

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(@claracross)
Honorable Member     Wisconsin, United States of America
Joined: 4 years ago

As confusing as it is and difficult to get used to, “They, Them, Theirs” is going to be with us for the foreseeable future. As a way of honoring another person’s gender expression, I think it’s a very easy sign of support when we respect their wishes. It’s the very least our crossdressing community can do for another person, who like us, is seeking identity and affirmation.

Clara. She/He/Her/Him

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(@stephanier)
Noble Member     Adelaide, South Australia, Australia
Joined: 5 years ago

Hi Amanda,
I would love to be addressed as she if I'm dressed as Stephanie. Then happy to be addressed as him when in drab.
Love and hugs, Stephanie 💖

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(@loneleycd)
Famed Member     Roland, Iowa, United States of America
Joined: 5 years ago

As for myself I would not take offence to whatever you called me. When dressed in fem I would be very sad to be called him, but would not take great offence. I did have one instance last summer at work dressed in drab with my uniform on, I was in need of a shave( 2days growth) A little 7 year old girl asked me are you a boy or a girl?? My hair at that time was almost shoulder length. All I could do was smile and say 'guess'. She made my day.
. . Sandy

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