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The Other Side of the coin.

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(@wanderer)
Noble Member     Stoney Creek , Ontario, Canada
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Sisters, I had a rather unique experience to meet in passing the friend of my lesbian hairstylist the other week.  They are a crossdresser!  But wait, there's more.  They are a ftm crossdresser, and it got me thinking.  Then it got me pondering.... and then thinking and pondering some more.  We have so much support here, and  certainly have many stories about the acceptance - more often lack of acceptance - received by the wives of you whom are married.  And I had to think, how difficult must it be for them on the other side?  I'm not sure, but I get the impression there is more support for mtf than ftm crossdressers.  We ask GG's for their opinion ( thanks girls! ) and share our own experiences of our SO's, and how we wish they were more understanding, and become frustrated when they do not.   We love our dresses... our make up... our breast forms!!  and I'm wondering how I would react if it were I, and my wife wanted to wear only drab clothes, cut her hair shorter...  behave  Like A Man!  What if she wanted to wear... a prosthetic to "look" more like a man the same way we wear forms to look more womanly?   Could you handle it??  Can't honestly say whether I could or not.....  Lets take it to the next level, what if they was bigender, or transgender??  Still the person you fell in love with, but, but..... Yeah, there is a butt there, isn't there?

When I think of it this way, I have to admit it's more understandable when a GG  says "no, I cannot accept it", regardless of previous vows or promises.  Not as easy a pill to swallow when you look at the other side of the coin.  All a bit enlightening for me...

Stevie

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(@leah63)
Noble Member     Minneapolis, Minnesota, United States of America
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My wife asks me the same question and perspective to consider.  While I would not prefer it as I love the female body and their feminine side,  if that is what she truly wanted to do, then go for it.

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Hi Stevie,

I've got nothing to add other than to complement you on a thought provoking post which makes a lot of sense to me.

Marti xxx

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Interesting post! Thankyou.

This is one reason why I find it hard to raise my CDness with the SO. I can put myself in her position. I would have deep reservations if she wanted to dress ftm, not so much with the clothes (she lives in jeans anyway) but with any prosthetics, fake stubble, etc. It doesn't sit right with me expecting her to put up with my peculiarities when I know I wouldn't be too happy if the boot were on the other foot.
Having said that, she'd have my support whatever.

Connie

xxx

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I think it all comes down to love. Do you love your SO enough to encourage their happiness no matter what form that took? Yes I know if they wanted drugs or some other harmful activity it would be a hard no, but simply changing their appearance to fulfil their happiness... why not? Maybe I'm just too liberal but thats the way I feel. An SO should want happiness for their SO, not control over every aspect of their lives. Is it love or domination? If not then they should look for another partner. I know this sounds ideal and we have to live in a real world but it really comes down to unconditional LOVE.

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Stevie...

Don't have an S/O, so it's not happening...but it is thought provoking....

I would struggle getting past that first hurdle.....why on earth would a woman want to act, look and dress like a man????.......

and  I'm guessing she would be thinking, why on earth would a man want to act, look and dress like a woman????......

there's definitely two sides to this one!!!

....next question???

Grace x

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(@barbwire)
Prominent Member     Barrie, Ontario, Canada
Joined: 3 years ago

Thinking then pondering!? This is gonna be a hard class this semester...

My SO can belch and spit with the best. She dresses more guy than gal, but still retains her feminine traits (unless she's had a few - and boy can she talk blue!). Her office parties are legendary!

I've often wondered if the two of us have inklings for our own gender (I certainly do, but I'm very fussy). It really is a spectrum!  We don't really discuss it, even after over 30 years of wonderful marriage. We just carry on and remain utterly faithful to each other. That is the deal, right?

So... to answer your excellent question(s) Stevie, I'll support her no matter what. (I better since she's been supporting me for nearly 40 years! LOL!) 🙂

xo Barb :B

 

 

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Hi Stevie if i could pluck up the courage to have the talk with my wife and she accepted me as a crossdresser totally,

Then i would support her in all her trials and tribulations totally too,

A lot of cis women can usually wear what they want without a second glance where as when a man goes out in a dress , unless you can pass as a girl everyone notices,

I know we get a lot of support from everyone on here but in the wide big world it's so different,

I'm just glad to be part of this community X

Hugs Roz X

 

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(@pattygurlcd)
Noble Member     Louisville, Kentucky, United States of America
Joined: 6 years ago

Hi Stevie ,

I always try to look at it from that perspective regarding my wife.

Unfortunately it doesn't make me feel very good about myself regarding what I have put her through.

Huggs Patty

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Hi Stevie,
Excellent topic, and very thought provoking too.
Most SO's that are supporting of their men dressing en-femme probably do so on the knowledge that when required sexually, their man is still there. I would say a lower portion of Man would accept it the other way round.
The key here is sex, that sexual chemistry of attraction, the desire and needs driven by chemical stimulation. This stimulation has a point to where desire dies. Genital realignment to the point of physical change.
Does a SO's have the same sexual attraction to her man that can no longer give her the penetration her femininity craves, and vice versa, can a man still be sexual attractive to his wife now that she packs male genitalia?.
Would I have accepted my wife if she dressed as a man?, absolutely, as she accepted me dressing un-femme. But the glue that bonded our love was physical yes "SEX", beyond the dressing with a desire to transition fully or do so, would have melted the very glue that held all the fabrics of the relationship together.
Really any acceptance of any physical changes or realignment will totally depend on one partner sexual preferences and what simulates them.
Dressing as an opposite sex, with pads and forms etc, doesn't distract from the fact that real person you love and sexually desire is underneath. .
Lol Amanda xx

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(@kt1819)
Honorable Member     Ottawa area, Ontario, Canada
Joined: 7 years ago

This is pretty much what I'm thinking whenever I wonder what she feels like. I mean how would I feel if she started to have a fake beard all the time and to be honest with my self (and all girls here) I think I would have way bigger issue with that than she have with Kelly fully dressed.

/kt

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(@silkydrawers)
Honorable Member     Milwaukee, Wisconsin, United States of America
Joined: 6 years ago

In some respects I feel I'm living with that scenario. My crossdressing has always been about feeling closer to women.

I was attracted to and married a very beautiful and feminine looking girl. My wife has changed over the years and has given up on femininity. She hasn't worn a dress in years and she only wears T-shirts and jeans with tennis shoes. She does nothing with her hair and never wears make-up.  This has kinda killed my sexual attraction to her.

Where the problem comes into play today is I have taken my crossdressing back into the closet and no longer dress in front of her and wear lingerie to bed with her as I once did.

She has made me feel very uncomfortable about my love of femininity because she has no interest in it anymore in herself so therefore I feel uncomfortable expressing it in myself.

I know this is hypocritical of me to want to enjoy a relationship as a feminine man with a feminine woman, but a relationship as a masculine or feminine man with a nonfeminine woman just doesn't excite me.

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(@regine)
Noble Member     Simcoe County, Ontario, Canada
Joined: 4 years ago

A very interesting question, as always Stevie.
My wife is the most feminine creature on the planet, so it really is hard to imagine lol
However, these days, yes, I would support her completely.
Now, to the past, you bring to mind a period when all she wore were full length maxi skirts, and I remember being put out with her, because she no longer looked sexy, in my eyes, I am ashamed of it now, but when in my 30's, I have to say I was not very supportive.
Makes me wonder,
Hugs, Regi👸💖

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(@pimagirl)
Noble Member     Tucson, Arizona, United States of America
Joined: 5 years ago

Stevie,

I have told my  wife several times if she wanted to pursue something with a woman I would be fine with it. I never received a "no", just a blank stare.

I'm 99% sure there was a "thing" with a woman she met on jury duty a number of years ago.

Diane

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(@notech64)
Estimable Member     cleveland, Ohio, United States of America
Joined: 5 years ago

I think it would be wonderful to have  friendship. or a relationship  with  ftm

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