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Before I upset anybody I would like to say I didn't mean to. Wales anounced today that children as young as 4 can decide to change sex without telling their parents. From Johny to Jenifer with a tick on the register.
Is it too early for a child to make this decision? I was born in 1952, I can't remember the exact age I slipped on a bridesmald dress for the first time but did I know why? Who could I ask back then, how could I explain my feelings, I was too young to read a book and the internet was still a dream?
In my last long summer holiday with the help of my girl gang from 15 to 16 I was virtualy a full time willowy pretty faced teenage girl until I started work and if anyone had asked about transitioning I would have jumped at the chance but still had nobody to advise me. When I started work testosterone took over, I discovered beer, got hairy and was married at 19 which lasted 25 years.
To the Trans ladies, when did you decide to make the change..... to the CD ladies, do you ever regret not doing it? I do.
You are not upsetting me at a Sally - Wales is!!
A 4 year old?!!!? Don't think so loose, a 4 year old doesn't know s**t from shinola!! Okay, imho this is nuts. They can barely tie there shoes and they are allowed to do this on their own? Now, they may start thinking about "it" .... no, I take that back, they are not thinking it through- they are 4 Years Old!! For myself I was much older when I realized I didn't "fit in" with the body I was given - maybe 10 or 12. Having said that, I can see a child questioning their gender at a young age, but i think at age 4, they have some time to sort out their feelings and take some time to think about it. Just my 2 bits worth...
I will say that had I the support and guidance when I was younger, I certainly would have liked to start HRT and transitioning in my teen years.
Stevie
Hi Sally,
That is in some respects a really tough question. What I think should happen is, if a child that young comes to his parents and says "I'm a boy/girl/non-gender specific....etc.", I think the parents should be the first ones to seek out help, and get some understanding of what the child might be going through, then help them along their journey (whatever it may be), to become healthy and happy people.
I guess I'm saying the child may be too young to make the decision purely on their own, but they should be advocated for.
Without divulging too much info, I hear it everyday. A parent calling (from all parts of the country) saying, "my child just told me......, what should I do, where do I seek out help", and our resources for this topic are stretched if not all together max'd out.
Bravo for the children who realize they have something else in them to offer, and with hope their parents will be courageous enough to seek out help, and not brush it off as some "stage" they are going through.
Love and Hugs,
Becka!
At risk of making light during a serious discussion.....
Stevie, no one knows what Shinola is anymore. The s#*t we still recognize, but Shinola?
Got me Clara. Guess I was showing my age a bit there. 😁
Children that age should be to busy playing and spinning around till they fall over to worry about gender.
Hi Sally...
No upset here, but disbelief!!!
just my opinion but what a load of old codswallop!!!.....( English for Shinola????)
a four year old is in absolutely no position to decide something like this ....and whoever decided to allow it, really should not be walking the streets, they are far too dangerous....
gobsmacked grace xx
Can always count on you Grace.
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/codswallop
And according to the best entymological source, the term was born the same year I was. Coincidence? I think not.
C❤️
4 years old is way too young. At 4 I wanted to be our dog. Should my parents have put another bowl on the floor?
At 6 I wanted to be Superman.
At 7 an astronaut.
At 10 I wanted to be Mary Poppins.
Somewhere in there I wanted to be Napoleon Solo.
Trying on different personas is one of the ways that children develop, we try on a personality and see if it fits. It’s a form of play where we learn about ourselves. The vast majority of the time it is a phase we abandon as we grow.
My Mom made me dog ears and a belt-on tail and for a couple of days I ran around the house barking and telling Daddy I was a doggie. She made a Superman costume with a blue tee shirt and a red towel for a cape. That one ended when I jumped off the porch rail. There are pictures.
My Mom handled it well I think. Don’t forbid it, don’t belittle it, don’t over react. Gently indulge it and see where you wind up.
But at that age, never do anything permanent and never force it. When the child moves on, that’s it.
My opinion
Jillian
Jillian ...
"At 4 I wanted to be our dog. Should my parents have put another bowl on the floor?"
serious subject I know, but gosh, that's made my day....thank you x.
Grace
Hi Sally
Some people in wales are not thinking clearly, four years old is far too young. I first crossdressed in the early 1970's, I didn't have the desire to transition then it was just thrilling for me. Looking back on life in hindsight I should have came out then, however I have no desire to transition. I would be very happy to spend the rest of my life en femme.
Love Sarah
xx
Hi Sally ,
I think thats wrong to take that decision away from parents our world is slowly undermining parental authority.
Yes many parents are wrong not to let their children explore their gender identity ,But 4 is ridiculous as the other girls have said.
maybe twelve they should have the right to explore it with the help of therapists and their parents Knowledge.
Its a crazy world
I feel the same Sarah. While I’m not willing to go through the transition process if I could spend the rest of my life presenting as a woman, I’d be a happy girl
Jillian
Hi Sally. Can you point me in a direction where I can learn more about this? I’ve been googling around and can’t find anything specific about this. I assume it has something to do with a ruling on Gillick Competence (I had to look that up). The only reference I could find was a ruling from late last year wherein U.K. courts affirmed the necessity of parental consent for persons under the age of 16 to obtain puberty blockers. Was it perhaps related to that case?
If you have a reference or link can you post that? On its face, what you’re reporting is pretty disturbing.
Thanks so much,
Detective Clara Cross.
Hi Sally If this story is true then things are getting way out of hand in Wales. With out permission from parents? 4 years old!!!NO way this will stand in a civilized society. I have been reading about young girls who decided they wanted to be boys. Its seems its a fad going around amongst young girls these days. There was a story about a young girl that had top surgery done at age 17. She was being interviewed at age 21. It was so sad to watch this young woman tell her story and regrets. The photo's of the scaring from where her breast once were, was a little eye opening to say the least. It is one thing to discuss the WHY concerning desire to cross dress sometimes or even full time amongst adults very mature adults. We fully understand the rewards and consequences of our decisions. We have earned the right to make those decisions.There are at least moral laws that are being upheld by Doctors just to makes sure adults are making the right decisions for themselves. I believe you have to have completed six months of therapy and the therapist can recommend HRT to be given by a doctor. who will monitor blood levels of estrogen and testosterone making sure the heart and all vital organs have no ill side effects coming from the chemical changes going on in your body. They also would like you to live in the new gender your preference for at least year before any surgeries. I am not sure if that opportunity was given to that young woman. Giving the wrong people to have authority over others can be very dangerous, we all experienced that dealing with this virus.
Luv Stephanie
