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When does ‘John’ become ‘Jane’? Is it necessary?

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(@bianca)
Noble Member     GB
Joined: 8 years ago

What a wonderful bunch we are here on CDH. During my time here I have had the privilege to interact with lot of people from different countries, ages, backgrounds and views on cross dressing.

One of the most interesting aspects hit me when I had a couple of meetings with a therapist late last year. She was the first person ever to meet me in both 100% male mode(name and all), and 100% female mode  (calling me Bianca). I was almost overwhelmed when she called me Bianca, it just felt so good...and natural.

With lockdown coming to an end  I may see her again. But I have gradually been trying to androgynyse or amalgamate my look, wearing mostly items from womenswear, albeit jeans, tees, knitwear, sneakers, blouses etc. Anything overtly feminine (dresses, skirts, heels, etc) I still reserve for full ‘Bianca’ mode, when I am wearing my ‘disguise’ (wig and make up).

I would love to just meld these two parts of me together. I know I will be told just to call myself whatever I want, and dress how I want, but is it that easy? Why do we need alternative names here? I know it helps maintain anonymity.

Do significant others/family/friends who know call you by the name you go by on here when you are dressed is there a tipping point ( eg wearing a wig, dress, leggings)where your female name becomes the ‘appropriate’ one? Do your nearest and dearest find it hard to call you your male name when dressed? Or find it hard to call you another name? Is it confusing for them? Significant others-would love your views.

If you are simply underdressing or wearing a pink womans sweater, or some make up, are you still addressed  in your male name? My admiration goes out to those of you who are known by the same name however you present.

I do find my ‘other’ name useful for describing, for example, getting my Bianca on. And I feel  this part of me more is the real me more than my drab male self. I do not intend to fully transition, and feel I still need to keep my male identity for kids and work.But when meeting new people in new situations who am I? Are we being deceitful? Am I overthinking it? Is it just a bit of fun?

Don’t mean to be disparaging or disrespectful to anybody, just throwing it out there for discussion and would love to hear how it works in your world.

❤️Bianca

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(@bianca)
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    Controversial? Moi?❤️
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(@trishl989)
Prominent Member     Bury, GreaterManchester, United Kingdom
Joined: 4 years ago

Hi Bianca, I'm Trisha full time. When I was Chris/Trisha people didn't know who I was sometimes. My GGBf said especially struggled with this. I did say if I had a bust and wig on I'm Trish, if not I'm Chris. I think if you dress androgynously it may cause confusion, but maybe you could try a similar thing I did but it's a lot simpler for people now I'm full time.

Personally I don't think we're deceiving people if we use two names and persona. We are who we are.

Love Trish.

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(@harriet)
Noble Member     Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand
Joined: 4 years ago

Gen! Hi Gen! Gen, are you listening? Love you GEN ❤️❤️❤️

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(@harriet)
Noble Member     Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand
Joined: 4 years ago

Bianca... hi beautiful!

Polly here...

... I’m Polly to everyone I have come out to and those that I introduce myself to. For example, I gave away a ice hockey t-shirt away to a friend’s husband who is a fan of the team. I had never met him but was introduced to him on Sunday. “Hi Polly” he said and “see yah Polly” when I left.
I came out to my brother yesterday and it will be hard for him to stop calling me ‘bro’... he has never called me by my old given name, Brian.

However, apart from the odd mistake... I’m Polly to all and sundry. I will be changing my name legally to Polly very soon.

Happy days... Bri... I mean, Polly 💋💋💋🙄

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(@Anonymous)
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Hi Bianca,

My fiance has called me Eva a few times. She is not as accepting as she was when I first came out, but I will never go back into the closet.  You gave us a lot of food for thought. There are no right or wrong answers. Family and work hold me back right now. The names are just a label, I know who I am. The definition of 'transition' can be different for everyone. Can I transition but still be male at work and around some family?

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(@loneleycd)
Famed Member     Roland, Iowa, United States of America
Joined: 5 years ago

So far have not had a lot of chance to be with those that know me both ways. I know it would be had for them to call me Sandy and refer to me as her. When my nephew came out as trans about 5 years ago my head keeps wanting to call him Ben ( that is how I hve known him since he was born, I am starting to get used to calling her Harmony and it is finally getting straight in my head.
. Sandy

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(@ladymakenzie)
Noble Member     Brighton, Michigan, United States of America
Joined: 9 years ago

Bianca,

I can understand your dilemma. However, for me, MacKenzie is only a pseudonym.  It is not my name. My given name, Sean, is my name, and how I wish to be called regardless of what I may be wearing. I'm not saying your concerns are not valid, just expressing that we all have different paths.

MacKenzie Alexandra

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(@ladymakenzie)
Noble Member     Brighton, Michigan, United States of America
Joined: 9 years ago

Genevieve,

Why are actors and authors use a name other than their given name? Pseudonyms have their purpose.

MacKenzie Alexandra

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(@paulaf)
Noble Member     Pampa, Tx, Texas, United States of America
Joined: 5 years ago

With the exception of work, family and friends all use my femme name.  A couple of coworkers use it also, since I came out to them there.  Women and men at work wear the same uniform, so there is no big problem there, and since it is a hospital, makeup is an absolute minimum.  Family did not know of my femme side until I was 32 after I moved back home.  Before that, it was pretty split between masc/femme name as I was only out to a very limited group of friends and worked solely as a male, and Paula didn't make an appearance usually unless I was going out for the night, which was pretty often back then.

One day I just came to the conclusion that I liked and wanted to be my Paula much, much more than Paul.  He still shows up as needed, but that is becoming less often all the time.  In February 2022, I will be making the legal choice to proceed with surgery as I live femme full time, and am out at work as femme also.

I will finally have found that young girl I first saw in the mirror 56 years ago.

PaulaF

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(@lauralovett)
Noble Member     Maidenhead, Berkshire, United Kingdom
Joined: 5 years ago

The naming of cats is a difficult matter

It isn't just one of your holiday games

And you may think I'm as mad as a hatter

When I tell you a cat must have three different names...

 

My wife hardly ever calls me by my given name, but has several "pet" names - and I do for her.

In my case, I use the pet names because she doesn't like her birth name - although I love it!

In her case, she only uses my birth name if she's annoyed with me... so not very often!

My children call me "Daddy".

At work, we hardly ever use each other's names except in formal occasions - customer meetings, etc.

Normally, a selection of friendly names are used, such as "Blue", "Mate", "Buddy", "Pal" or "Dude".

So, what's in a name?

Does it matter what we call ourselves, or what others call us?

Obviously, there are some names we'd prefer not to be called - but ultimately, it's all about context.

I rather like being called Laura when en femme - and it doesn't suit my male or androgynous look at all.

So all good on the names front - dinnae fash yersel', as the Nac Mac Feegle say!

😘

Love Laura

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(@Anonymous)
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Hi B❤️

The only person that knows about grace is my doctor....and me!!....so I consider myself grace 24/7, whatever I'm doing or wearing....

Living alone, I do talk to myself quite often...like ouch Gracie if I trip, or silly cow Gracie if I drop something...or even....looking good tonight Gracie....does that count???and no , I'm not mad....😳

of course you're not grace, don't be silly....then who are you talking to???...why grace of course.....but you live alone...no I don't, grace lives here too.....keep taking the medication grace, you'll be fine!!!

Me ❤️❤️

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Lady
(@oldbeth)
Honorable Member     Mankato, Minnesota, United States of America
Joined: 4 years ago

I live 24/7 as Beth but only my inner circle of friends and family know both. My GGBf is very good with the change, in fact when I came out to her she said "What took you so long?" Apparently she knew what was going on in my head before I did. Most of the others struggle to use the feminine with me but I've let them know it's ok, I don't expect them to be perfect all the time.

My two contract bosses know and are great with it, they have even changed my name in the contract bookings, although it is not changed legally. Most of my extended family do not know. Some would be ok with it, but many are of the right wing persuasion so I remain distant with them to avoid conflict. The next family reunion will force me to decide what I should do.

I would prefer if the whole world knew me as Beth but because I do not plan on a physical transition I must maintain the old legal form and make an occasional appearance as such. But for the most part the legal name is just a name on paper, my everyday AKA is Beth.

Beth

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(@regine)
Noble Member     Simcoe County, Ontario, Canada
Joined: 4 years ago

My wife and her friend both call me Regi, they are the only 2 that know at the present time
And no, I dont want to be called his name, when Im Enfemme.
Hugs, Regi👩💕

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(@andidb)
Estimable Member     Cumbria, United Kingdom
Joined: 4 years ago

I'm not sure whether it is for simplicity, laziness or lack of imagination but when dressed I use the feminine spelling of my male name.

-A.

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