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Your career.... Would it have been different if you were born female?

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(@ryanpaul)
Famed Member     Outer Eastern Suburbs Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Joined: 8 years ago

Hello to all the lovely ladies on CDH.

Tho I've been retired for over 15 years, as I move into my "dotage" and look back with pride at a successful small business career, I ponder if things would have turned out differently had I been born female.

Being a child of the 50's and 60's I guess if was born female, the "stereotyped" occupations back then would have had some influence on me. Nurse, fashion designer, shop assistant, "Clever Secretary", homely housewife with 3 kids and a frilly apron, etc etc

Yes, whilst still at school I liked the idea of journalism, (See the articles I have written for CDH) and aeronautical engineering, but in the end nothing came of those two potential "female jobs"

I started work in a manufacturing business in my late teens and the "dirty hands on" work would never have lent itself to "things femme". Nor would the freezing in winter and stinking hot in summer helped any "femme" feelings.

But having ended up as a part owner and "up in the office", perhaps I may have allowed myself to think I would have been the "power dressed" female executive. A look I have used many times over these last few years..This would have been enhanced by a career that involved much interstate and overseas travel....Tho the idea of being the "lone female traveller" with all that entails in terms of security and eating alone in restaurants and bars would have been a drawback...

All comments and thoughts welcomed

Happy(power??!!) dressing

Caty

 

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I have often pondered this. My answer is yes. I work in an engineering lab now. I know in my heart that if I was born female, I would be a nurse right now. I love nurturing and helping people heal.

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(@ryanpaul)
Famed Member     Outer Eastern Suburbs Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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One key "female" occupation from the "old days" I forgot was teacher..

Caty

 

 

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(@qtestephy)
Noble Member     Massachusetts, United States of America
Joined: 6 years ago

Hi Caty  Most defiantly i would of been a nurse. My Grandmother was a nurse, My mother was a nurse. My three sisters are nurses. I would of been expected to be a nurse. Its a very honorable profession that requires you to be strong during times of sadness. You are allowed to feel and express compassion, empathy while nurturing those of us who maybe sick or even dying. I do not think there is any other profession that best fits the qualities and essence of being born a female at that time.  Nurses are very accepting and even invite our feminine nature at the same time they do appreciate your physical strength given to you because you were born with a male body.. They will know your heart and that is what is most important when in times of crises hit. I still believe it is a great profession for those in our community.

Luv Stephanie

 

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(@tvstepb)
Eminent Member     Mount Olive, Mississippi , United States of America
Joined: 7 years ago

I’ve thought about that. I’m sure I would have been a nurse. Most women on moms side were nursing field my sister anesthesiologist. But I still think my career  would have been in the military and I would have followed mother’s footsteps.

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(@bianca)
Noble Member     GB
Joined: 8 years ago

Hi Caty

No, I am and will always be a nurse.

Have had to clean up, and clean off me, just about everything that can come out of a human body! Been punched, kicked, sworn at. Shapeless bland uniforms. Work 12 hour shifts, nights and weekends. Never ending scrolls of paperwork. Not the best paid job in the world.

Living the dream🤣🤣🤣 but I wouldn’t change it regardless of gender.

❤️B

 

 

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(@jamietaal)
Reputable Member     DC Metro Area, Maryland, United States of America
Joined: 6 years ago

Being in a design profession I do not think being female would have changed my career path but it would have changed how I look and feel doing it. Being around sophisticated and fabulously dressed design women day-to-day I have been able to see first hand sharp and trendy fashion styles. This has influenced me formulating my own style based on my professional interactions. In addition to their fashion sense I have been able to observe first hand how they present themselves as professional, smart, confident and creative. On rare occasions at office parties, professional events and galas they really shine. They go from great to AMAZING!

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(@wendyswift)
Noble Member     Alberta, Canada
Joined: 5 years ago

This topic really made me think.  I am in the IT industry, but if I was born female, would I have started my path in the IT industry ?  Years ago when I went to school towards IT, there was very few females in class.  Over the years there are more females in the industry, but back then it was predominantly male.

I honestly don't know where my career would be if I was born female.  I think for sure my interests would be much differently and I don't think I would have pursued a field in the IT industry at that time.

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(@debbiedd)
Noble Member     los angeles, California, United States of America
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My dream back then would have been to be a stewardess

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(@oldbutwise)
Reputable Member     Bedford, Virginia, United States of America
Joined: 5 years ago

Well Caty, my honest answer is I have no idea what my career would have been if I'd been born a girl instead of a boy. For starters, the messages I got from society about what is and isn't acceptable for me to do (and not just as a career) would have been different. Then there's the fact that I would have seen the world with slightly different eyes. Women have to be more aware of things like personal safety than men do. That's just one example.

Of course there are things that men have to be more aware of than women do, but I have a feeling that a lot (most?) of the GGs on this site are aware of that. That's another reason we should be glad they're our wives and girlfirends. (And fiancees too, of course.)

I worked in a sporting goods store for 6+ years, starting as a salesman and ending up as an assistant manager. Before anybody goes thinking that I most likely would have been a cashier at the store, one of the best assistant managers and easily the best truck driver we ever had were women. So who can say?

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(@kristacanada)
Prominent Member     Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Joined: 8 years ago

Thought provoking question Caty, Thanks.

My undergrad degree is in Recreation which is well populated with females. My masters degree is in Environmental Studies/Urban Planning, also a field with lots of females.  So I don't think my education path would have been any different and certainly many of the full-time jobs I've had are quite open to females.  But definitely my summer jobs while going to university would have been different as I was in quite a few student jobs that were very much male focused.  And I most likely would have faced more challenges (such as sexual discrimination) in rising up to my ultimate career position as the CEO of a $200 million organization with over 1000 employees (very few females in this role in this particular industry though the future looks bright for more females to move into this type of position).  When I retired, I did recommend a female as a possible candidate to take over from me. The hiring board went a totally different way and hired a guy whose management style was out of the sixties.  I heard they thought I brought too many "feminine" qualities to the position. Lots of "good old boys" in this industry who end up on the hiring boards. Sure glad the guy who was my replacement only lasted 18 months and now the new guy is more like me. All the Best, stay safe, stay healthy, Hugs, Krista

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(@ilandkathy)
Estimable Member     San Diego, California, United States of America
Joined: 10 years ago

I joined the Navy in 1964, at 17 years old, in order to avoid being drafted into the Army.  Vietnam was on fire at that time and I, coming from a poor family, was not likely to go to college where a deferment would keep me out of the military.  The odds of going to Vietnam and making it home in one piece were not good.  So, Navy it was.  Following 9 years of service I joined a SoCal police department from which I retired over 16 years ago.

Were I born female the draft would not have been an issue, therefore joining the Navy would not have happened.  I would also likely have remained in the Los Angeles area rather than ending up in the San Diego area following military service.  So - - , my whole life would have been totally different.  Most likely a typical female job, secretary, bank teller, or a grocery checker etc.

Most likely, I would have married and had kids, like most couples in those days. I remember my mom working at the Frito Lay factory.  She had to wear a cute, pink striped dress, as a uniform.  I admired the dress and secretly tried it on a few times.

By now I would have settled in to my role as a Grandmother, and like my lovely wife now, a cornerstone of our nuclear family. Nothing wrong with a life lived as a nurturing mother, grandmother and family cornerstone.  Interestingly though, I would not realize how blessed I would be to have led that life without all the secrecy, lies, and hiding of my true feelings that have been a part of me, my whole life.  Guilt is a powerful emotion and it poisons your soul. Rationalizing my desires and urges allow me to smooth the guilt factor.

I honestly do not know if I would change my life's journey, if I had the chance.  I have had a productive, meaningful life.  Serving my Country, my community and providing for my family -  above all, raising two wonderful daughters who have given us given us awesome grandkids.

My bride knows about Kathy and kindly allows me to underdress and to also have "Kathy time" by leaving me home alone for hours at a time so that I can be my alter-ego.  Sadly,, she does not wish to see me dressed -  although, she has caught a glimpse or two of Kathy, on the rare occasion when she returned home early or unannounced.

Sorry for the too long response -  I guess I am just making the best out of the accident of birth that gave me two personalities.  I love both of me!

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(@red-sorceress)
Reputable Member     Middlesex, New Jersey, United States of America
Joined: 7 years ago

Like yourself, darling, I, too, was born in the 50s. Women back in those day were expected to be a housewife and raise the children. There's a mind blower for you: giving birth and raising children! Anyways, that probably what I would have done for a carrier if I had been born a woman.

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(@ryanpaul)
Famed Member     Outer Eastern Suburbs Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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Me again...

Someone mentioned flight attendant... Now there's one I should have included. I grew up under the flight path of the old Melbourne airport and have had a life long interest in aircraft. I also spent FAR too many hours on the likes of 747's in my business career.

So looking back if I was born female I would have loved to have been a "hostie" aka hostess..The immaculate make up and hair, the uniform.. the travel.. "all of the above"...

Especially if I ended up working for Qantas and became one the the wonderful female flight attendants who looked after me so well, in all my years of flying with them...

Other airlines.....Mostly "no comment"....

Tho "male me" will always treasure my "middle aged business man's dream" of taking a lovely Qantas Flight attendant to lunch in London... (Spoiler alert). she had one of her flight attendant mates with her...

Also the irony that in her early 20's my beloved applied for a "hostie" job but was rejected cos she was not tall enough.

Happy ("hostie") dressing

Caty

 

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Caty,

My answer is a firm Yes! I discovered in my late 40's that I was born to be a Medic, after spending 20 years in industrial research and medical laboratories. Beck then, I would have been an ER Nurse, since Paramedics didn't exist until much later, and I would not have been drafted and done a tour as an Army medic. Eventually got in 16 years as a USAF Flight Medic, and another 8 years as a Paramedic. Been retired 20 years now, and I still miss it.

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