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A great day out and a safety tip

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Lady
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(@jillannquinn)
Noble Member     Reno, Nevada, United States of America
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Hello ladies, I want to tell you all of my day out and a safety tip I want to share with you all. With the weather beginning to warm up, I decided that today will most likely be the last day I go out in public until next winter, as I'm unwilling to shave all my body hair. Doing so would be a huge give away and I'm not willing at this time to deal with the problems such a revelation would cause. Be that as it may, I enjoyed myself very much!

My first stop was to Starbucks. Now this location doesn't have a drive thru, so I had to go in. I ordered some food and a large chia tea. It was so nice to hear the barista call out my name, "Jill!" I found a small booth in the back and sat there and enjoyed my breakfast and my tea. I wasn't in a rush and took my time. When I sat back down in my car, it occurred to me that for my safety I should lock my doors every time I get in, especially when I'm dressed as Jill. With so much violence towards women everywhere, and still not enough people accepting anyone they deem unnatural or out of the norm, I thought this to be a good idea and wanted to pass it along.

Since I was very low on gas, I decided now was a perfect time to fill up. It was so windy that my wig was blowing across my face, making it a little difficult to see what I was doing. On the other hand, I'm sure it also hid me enough that no one recognized me as a man in a skirt. Next stop, a huge thrift store!

As I got out and started walking in, I suddenly feared that maybe I was overdressed for such a place judging from how other shoppers walking in and out were dressed. I briefly considered postponing going in until I could do so in drab but then I remembered a quote I had read just last night from Dale Carnegie. He said "If you want to conquer fear, don't sit home and think about it. Go out and get busy." So, in I went! And am I glad that I did! I finally found a really nice pair of jeans for under $10 and a wallet. Unfortunately, they didn't have any heels in my size. Oh well. But the jeans! The jeans fit so comfortably well I can't believe it! I'm wearing them as I write this. These opens up even more dressing opportunities for me. So much so that I may have to borrow my wife's sneakers (they fit me perfectly) and go out one last time tomorrow. And the security guard there addressed me as "Miss" twice! Big smiles!

I made four more stops before my day out was over. I stopped and bought some avocados at a grocery store, some makeup at a CVS, perused a cute little boutique I love but didn't buy anything, then I went to a local bookstore that has cats for adoption. They're LGTBQ friendly there. So are the employees. And one last thing to mention here that really made my day. Sitting at a table outside the bookstore was an elderly woman (late 70's or early 80's) and she complimented my skirt as I was going in. Then the dear sweet woman said, "It's nice to get all dolled up, isn't it?" as I was leaving. I replied that it was and that I really enjoy doing so. I'm sure she pegged me for a man, but she didn't care at all. Bless her.

Hugs to all my sisters. Without your inspiration and support, I would never have this much courage. You all have my most sincere and heartfelt thanks.

Jill

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Ambassador
(@alexina)
Joined: 1 year ago

Illustrious Member     Fife, United Kingdom
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@jillannquinn 

Hi, Jill, thanks for an uplifting account of your trip. I take great vicarious enjoyment from posts like yours for I'm not yet ready to do the same. 

One day perhaps but at the moment I'm happy to enjoy the support of my wife in dressing pretty much when I like at home.

Nonetheless, the events, thoughts and feelings you describe do get me thinking...

Allie x

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Lady
(@jillannquinn)
Joined: 4 years ago

Noble Member     Reno, Nevada, United States of America
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@alexina Believe me, it was a pleasure to write about my day. I'm very happy you enjoyed it and thank you for taking the time to read it and respond with a really sweet reply. I really hope you can find a way very soon to go out and experience life as Allie. My wife asked me once why I want to go out and be seen in public. I told her that I didn't want to be seen per se, I was just so damn tired of hiding from everyone, tired of being scared. I used those feelings to overcome my fear, at least enough to go out. It's still a bit scary, I won't lie, but it does get easier. 

Hugs, Jill

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Managing Ambassador
(@ellyd22)
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Majestic Member     Norfolk, United Kingdom
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@jillannquinn 

Hey Jill

I loved this - and I especially love elderly bookstore lady 🙂

I ONLY wear women's jeans now. Why are they so much nicer than men's?

Hugs

Ellie x

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Lady
(@jillannquinn)
Joined: 4 years ago

Noble Member     Reno, Nevada, United States of America
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@ellyd22 Thank you Ellie. The bookstore lady was the highlight of my outing today and one of my all-time favorites experiences with people while dressed. I probably should have sat down at that table with her and chatted, but I didn't think of it until now. And I have to say, these jeans are very comfortable, perhaps more comfortable than any men's jeans I've owned, but I can't say why.

Hugs, Jill

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Managing Ambassador
(@ellyd22)
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Majestic Member     Norfolk, United Kingdom
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@jillannquinn 

Softer material, better fit ... but for some reason, very shallow pockets!

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Lady
(@jillannquinn)
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Noble Member     Reno, Nevada, United States of America
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@ellyd22 I've never understood why women's pants have such small pockets. Smaller hands? Yeah sure, in some cases. But the things we all place in our pockets such as phones and keys are the same size. So why not have bigger pockets? The only problem with these jeans is the same problem I have with all pants or shorts: they show off the fact that I was born without an ass. 🙂

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(@rebeccabaxter)
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    Cornwall, United Kingdom
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Posted by: @jillannquinn

 they show off the fact that I was born without an ass. 🙂

 

Bum and hip pads; look good and quite comfy.

 

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Lady
(@jillannquinn)
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Noble Member     Reno, Nevada, United States of America
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@rebeccabaxter I get so hot as it is that I had to sit in my car with the windows down for 15 minutes to cool off before I went into the bookstore and it was about 45 degrees Fahrenheit or 7 degrees Celsius. I'm afraid that with butt and hip pads I'd boil. However, my wife just mentioned to me that these jeans show off the fact that I have no butt. X) I'm thinking butt and hip pads are in my near future. 

Hugs, Jill

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Significant Other
(@ambersqueen)
Joined: 11 months ago

Trusted Member     Queensland, Australia
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@jillannquinn the lack of pockets in everything is a daily lament!

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Lady
(@jillannquinn)
Joined: 4 years ago

Noble Member     Reno, Nevada, United States of America
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@ambersqueen agreed! But why is there such a lack of pockets?

Hugs, Jill

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Significant Other
(@ambersqueen)
Joined: 11 months ago

Trusted Member     Queensland, Australia
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@jillannquinn I wish I knew! A question asked by every woman! 

My theory is to make the joy finding pockets in a dress extreme 🤣 

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Lady
(@jillannquinn)
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Noble Member     Reno, Nevada, United States of America
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@ambersqueen Well, it's the little things in life, isn't it? 😆

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Significant Other
(@ambersqueen)
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Trusted Member     Queensland, Australia
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@jillannquinn 🤣 🤣  definitely

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(@Anonymous 93795)
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@jillannquinn No pockets is a blessing so you can carry a cute little purse 👜 !

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Lady
(@jillannquinn)
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Noble Member     Reno, Nevada, United States of America
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@chanel Very true! I actually carry a fairly large, black purse.

Hugs, Jill

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Ambassador
(@lucyb112)
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Noble Member     Staffordshire, United Kingdom
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@jillannquinn 

I love this Jill, and the elderly lady sounded lovely!

Yes, female jeans are just the best. I bought some last year and they are just amazingly comfortable. 
When I’m alone I wear them out all of the time as I go out a lot dressed femme but not presenting as Lucy, I think it’s referred to as 50:50.

 

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Lady
(@jillannquinn)
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Noble Member     Reno, Nevada, United States of America
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@lucyb112 I can see myself wearing these out while in drab mode, as I don't believe anyone is really going to being paying me enough attention to notice that I'm wearing women's pants. And yes! They're amazingly comfortable!

Thanks Lucy, Jill

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Lady
(@harriette)
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Illustrious Member     Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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@lucyb112 I just now watched a shlocky sci-fi movie (Alien Trespass - YouTube) set sometime in the 1960s (they had a Polaroid camera). I was watching the fashion used on the actresses because it was from a time well before I was aware of these things.

A few of the actresses wore high heels, including a close-up on a pair of T-strap pumps, and a couple of main characters, such as Judy Thompson, wore typical, pretty A-line dresses of the era.

I know it's only in the movies, but what a stark difference from the casual clothes of today! 

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Lady
(@jillannquinn)
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Noble Member     Reno, Nevada, United States of America
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@harriette back when women really went of of their way to dress and look nice.

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Lady
(@harriette)
Joined: 2 years ago

Illustrious Member     Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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I thought that you were going to suggest sitting with your back to a wall, but locking the car doors is important even as a male.

Posted by: @jillannquinn

As I got out and started walking in, I suddenly feared that maybe I was overdressed for such a place judging from how other shoppers walking in and out were dressed.

Yes, women dress so casually, nowadays. It is fairly uncommon to see / hear heels, a nice dress, even to see covered bellies in cool weather. Jeans or leggings, running shoes, even flats.

Oh well, I guess it is up to us to remind them about dressing nicely again. 😋

 

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Lady
(@jillannquinn)
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Noble Member     Reno, Nevada, United States of America
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@harriette well I’m certainly doing my part to try and remind and maybe inspire them. And yes, locking the doors in drab mode is important too. It’s also a good way to strengthen the habit.

Hugs, Jill

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Duchess Annual
(@isabella22)
Reputable Member     Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Joined: 6 years ago

thank you Jill for the story and word of advice. As for jeans, they offer a lot of possibilities. Depending on the type of outing, I will only add butt pads and skip the hips pads. I usually wear a shaping camisole which provides some shape and less focus on the hips. As for lack of pockets, my guess is for better looks.

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Lady
(@jillannquinn)
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Noble Member     Reno, Nevada, United States of America
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@isabella22 You're very welcome. I'm thinking I'll have to at least look at the cost of butt and hip pads and go from there. As for your theory on pockets, I can't see anything wrong with what you said from a purely aesthetics point of view.

Hugs, Jill

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(@aliceunderwire)
Illustrious Member     Near Burlington, Vermont, United States of America
Joined: 5 years ago

Hi Jill,

Thanks for sharing the words of warning.

With respect to ladies jeans and pockets they are more ornamental.  The pockets are intended to stay empty for a smoother look.

Alice

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Lady
(@jillannquinn)
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Noble Member     Reno, Nevada, United States of America
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@aliceunderwire Hello Alice. You're very welcome. I just hope none of us ever need to be thankful for following my advice. Let's all be safe. I believe you're right about the pockets. Take care!

Hugs, Jill

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Duchess Annual
(@blondsherri)
Honorable Member     Missoula, Montana, United States of America
Joined: 7 years ago

Jill, what a great day for you! I have only worn woman's jeans for the last 20 years plus, but I'm lucky because, I do ( if I might say) have a great ass, always get comments, so I think it's true. As far as the pockets go, women have a purse for all that stuff and I think that's why they lack pockets. When mine are to small I modify them so they work for me. Anyway, you go girl, wishing you more great outings to come!

Sherri

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Lady
(@jillannquinn)
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Noble Member     Reno, Nevada, United States of America
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@blondsherri Thank you very much Sherri, it really was a great day! I’m debating whether or not I should go out tomorrow morning for just an hour or two and wear my new ladies jeans. Time will tell!

Hugs, Jill

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(@siobhann)
Estimable Member     Colorado, United States of America
Joined: 11 months ago

I have some Wranglers jeans than fit well, women's cropped with the holes. The pockets are fine. My Levis have ornamental pockets. I don't know what I think. If im drab, I wear carhaarts, and I did weigh them with my usual stuff in my pockets, 25 lbs. I do get annoyed with tiny pockets, but I also shed my work trousers as fast as I can for my girl clothes 

 

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Lady
(@jillannquinn)
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Noble Member     Reno, Nevada, United States of America
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@siobhann I don't do it very often, but I enjoy putting on my girl clothes when I get home too. The tiny pockets aren't a huge issue for me, I'm just glad I finally found a pair of women's jeans that fit so well.

Hugs, Jill

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Hostess
(@cdsue)
Famed Member     Delaware, United States of America
Joined: 5 years ago

Jill -

Thank you for sharing your story, it was lovely to read especially the lady outside the bookstore. 

I recently got a pair of men's stretch jeans and they are soft and fit very well, almost as good as the ladies jeans I have. I have a couple pair of ladies jeans I wear on occasion in the house but never out as they are too short. As to the pockets being small, I think there are 2 reasons: 1- not flattering to have things stuffed in the pockets and 2 - most women carry some type of purse for all their things so no need for pockets. I still stuff my pockets with my wallet, bandana, money and pocket knife but do carry a man bag for my phone, note pad, chap stick and extra pad. There are times when we travel that I use a bigger bag and put my pocket items in it (so much easier to put the bag on a security check belt than to empty and refill pockets). A cross body bag works well for that.

XOXO
Suzanne

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Lady
(@jillannquinn)
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Noble Member     Reno, Nevada, United States of America
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@cdsue I'm sure that your correct about the relationship between small pockets and purses, and honestly, it does make sense. But as a guy who wears cargo pants 95% of the time, I really like pockets that can hold more than some lipstick.

Take care, Jill

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Hostess
(@cdsue)
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Famed Member     Delaware, United States of America
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@jillannquinn totally understand as I love my cargo pockets as well - sacrifices we must make to be beautiful sometimes

XOXO
Suzanne

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Lady
(@jillannquinn)
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Noble Member     Reno, Nevada, United States of America
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@cdsue it’s sure worth that, isn’t it?

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Hostess
(@ab123)
Illustrious Member     Surrey, United Kingdom
Joined: 5 years ago

Great success story Jill and quite a day out too. It's always good to read success inspired by others here.

I think all the questions about lack of pockets have been covered but nowadays ladies need a pocket as the cell/mobile phone needs a home. It is usual to see the top of a phone hanging out. Even leggings have a pocket for the device nowadays.

Imogen makes the point about the joy finding pockets in a dress which I agree with, as many women do. For work it is neat to have pockets at the front to put bits and pieces in as there is no shoulder bag available, at work in a shop I could put bits and pieces in needed to do the job. I love the more formal dress with very discreet pockets along the seam, good for putting a tissue or for a small pocket wallet with money or even keys as if you leave your bag it is vulnerable to being rifled or stolen. My mother used to make dresses for a shop years ago and made pockets in the skirt seam and they are still available it was usual in a lot of dresses and skirts back in the day.

It's lovely to have compliments when out and about when dressed. I had a kind of reverse compliment years ago when in drab. The times I'd be out in drab there is something to buy but nerves stop me. I was able to go out occasionally then and was building a wardrobe when one day I saw a lovely skirt in a charity shop window. It looked empty inside so popped in and checked it out but couldn't see a size tag so looked around for help. There was a more mature aged lady assistant so bolstered the courage and asked her if she knew the size,so she looked at the skirt, found the tag, the size was right. I quickly formed a 'cover' story saying my Mum had mentioned seeing it, liked the pattern but didn't have time to get it. The lady said it was a nice pattern and style so I paid up and it was bagged. As I thanked her she said,'I am sure it will look lovely on' and smiled sweetly in that way ladies do stating the inferred obvious without saying 'It's for you isn't it'...hey ho but a compliment of sorts.

 

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Lady
(@jillannquinn)
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Noble Member     Reno, Nevada, United States of America
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@ab123 I'm still feeling happy about that sweet woman's compliments! She really made me day more than all the rest combined. I have at least one dress and one skirt (the one I wore yesterday) that have pockets and they're surprisingly large. I guess the lady in charity shop didn't buy your story. Hopefully, she meant what she said in a sincere manner. But that begs the question, did it look lovely on you?

Thanks Angela, Jill

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Hostess
(@ab123)
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Illustrious Member     Surrey, United Kingdom
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@jillannquinn I'm sure she was being kind and it did look lovely on me too....

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Lady
(@jillannquinn)
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Noble Member     Reno, Nevada, United States of America
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@ab123 Then you had a wonderful day too. ❤️

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Baroness Annual
(@nickicd)
Reputable Member     Texas, United States of America
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What a lovely story about your day out especially the comment from the sweet lady. I would have been on cloud nine......

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Lady
(@jillannquinn)
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Noble Member     Reno, Nevada, United States of America
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@nickicd I'm so happy that you so many others enjoyed it. I think I was caught off guard too much to fully appreciate her compliments at the time. They hit me more after I drove away. Maybe if I had fully appreciated them at the moment she said them, I might have sat down with her and spent some time chatting. But I'm definitely very happy thinking about it now.

Thank you Nicki, Jill 

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(@finallyfiona)
    Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire, United Kingdom
Joined: 1 year ago

Jill, what a lovely day out!  So glad you managed an excursion to cap off the winter 🙂  And in answer to your internal debate with Sherri above, of course you should go out in your new jeans tomorrow!

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Lady
(@jillannquinn)
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Noble Member     Reno, Nevada, United States of America
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@finallyfiona Thank you so much! I wish I could have gone out today but I'm too busy trying to catch up on things I didn't do yesterday and I'm working overtime tonight. April here in Nevada is a hodgepodge of different weather patterns and temperatures, so maybe before the month is over, I might get one more chance to go out. Fingers crossed! 

Hugs, Jill

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(@debbiedd)
Noble Member     los angeles, California, United States of America
Joined: 5 years ago

Congrats Jill and sounds like a day in my life. Such a thrill to be treated like a lady while going about the normal daily activities. And oh once you start wearing women's jeans you will never be comfy in man jeans again. I have learned how to deal with no pockets and that is a handbag while out in male or a purse as debbie. I adore the way they hug with their designs of stitching or studs and give shape. Now you too are hooked sweetie so enjoy 

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Lady
(@jillannquinn)
Joined: 4 years ago

Noble Member     Reno, Nevada, United States of America
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@debbiedd I am hooked! 🤣 At least now I know that a size 12 in Old Navy jeans should fit me so I can go buy more in different colors. In drab, I wear cargo pants, so I'm covered there, and in Jill-mode, I carry a beautiful purse that is more than big enough to carry anything I need. In fact, I always try to find more things to put into my purse like most women carry in theirs's. 

Hugs, Jill

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Baroness
(@annaredhead)
Famed Member     Cornwall, United Kingdom
Joined: 11 months ago

what a fabulous day. Have you looked at padded panties? I find they're great for giving shape

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Lady
(@jillannquinn)
Joined: 4 years ago

Noble Member     Reno, Nevada, United States of America
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@annaredhead No, I haven’t heard of those that I recall. I’ll look them up. Thank you. Is there a particular brand you like?

Thanks again, Jill

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Baroness
(@annaredhead)
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Famed Member     Cornwall, United Kingdom
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@jillannquinn Hi Jill, I've nice items in the ranges from UnderWhere and Danskin. You can find them at TK Maxx or on Amazon. Also I've had some items from Shein, fabric isn't as silky but the effect of the padding is fantastic. 

 

Anna x

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Lady
(@lea-jhene)
Noble Member     California, United States of America
Joined: 9 years ago

Congrats on a wonderful day out! A little bit of retail therapy dressed can do wonders for us. I had a few fun hours out shopping this week, just blending in.

I see your location says Nevada, so summer is quite hot there. Have you tried wearing a thin long sleeve top, sheer sleeves or mesh sleeves, to hide the hair in summer? Jeans, leggings, though uncomfortable, work too. I've noticed that many GGs like to cover their arms and legs to in summer to avoid sun burn, so you'd fit right in.

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Lady
(@jillannquinn)
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Noble Member     Reno, Nevada, United States of America
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@lea-jhene Thank you ,Lea, I hadn’t considered those options. Another problem for me is that I’ve spent so many years doing manual labor and weight training, that I have too much muscle mass (at least I think I do) to pass with so little on. That’s one of the benefits of winter wear. I can wear layers to keep warm and hopefully hide my physique a little bit.

Hugs, Jill

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