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(@paulahere)
Reputable Member     St Thomas, Ontario, Canada
Joined: 4 years ago

Good day Beautiful Ladies,

I an writing you from a restaurant in the Detroit Airport.

I have my hair down, my makeup on, my breast forms in, white blouse,  black and white check pants, with ankle boot.

I drove from home to the boarder fully dressed and the gaurd did not mention anything using my passport as ID.  Got to the airport, gathered my things, and walked in straight to the security counter wear mu ID was scanned, and I removed my shoes, took electronics out of my bag and walked through the full body scanner.   No a raided Eyebrow.  Walked the length of the terminal to find a bite to eat.  I am waiting for my food.  I will need the restroom after food before the flight.

My heart is pounding as I sit and Wait for food.  Looking around no one cares.  This is a definite bucket list item ticked off for me.

Get out and enjoy thos wonderful world.

Love and hugs

Paula

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Lady
(@barbz)
Joined: 4 years ago

Eminent Member     California, United States of America
Posts: 12

Paula

I am looking at traveling by air this summer (fully dressed as a woman) and wonder if you have any tips on traveling.  One of my stops might be Detroit Metro depending upon my itinerary. 

I have looked up (online) some of the old horror stories of Trans women traveling via air and TSA not being trained to be supportive.  This was mainly in the time period from 2010 to 2014 when TSA was just getting the new body scanners. From what I have read know there has been a cultural shift in the organization and the way that they deal with Trans, binary and non specific gender people.

Did you make contact with the TSA support people prior to your travels?  I had to get a KTN (Known traveler number) due to a mixup with my name previous to this so I do have that as an option of using a shorter line.

What I would also like to know what did you wear while traveling?  I have taken my own private survey of looking at traveling women while I have been waiting at airports and have found that only 1 in 10 women would be wearing a skirt or dress. Depending upon the weather this will drop to 1 in 15.  

Most of the women that I have seen are in pants, stretchy leotards, track suit, or shorts (again depending on the weather).  Since I would rather blend in than stand out, I am thinking of a nice blouse, well fitted jeans and low heal pumps.  Of course I will be wearing full makeup, breasts, padding, wig, and of course a gaff. 

One of the things that I picked up on while reading about the TSA screenings is that the algorithm that is used previously was for either male or female body forms.  So that if there is something extra showing between your legs and they punch the female button it shows up as an anomaly (to the screener as designed by the programer). One girl wrote to get around this was to always wear a gaff when presenting yourself as female to the screener.

I guess there would be other problems if the screener decided to press the male screening selection but that is not suppose to happen. Let me know if you have any tips.

 

Barb

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Baroness
(@dianas1960)
Joined: 8 years ago

Estimable Member     South Central, Indiana, United States of America
Posts: 91

@barbz I have traveled many times En Femme and never had issues.  I do wear slacks not dresses as I do try to blend. You are right not many dresses on planes.  The only issues I have ever had with the scanners is a pat down on my shoulders.  I assume to check if I am wearing a bra.  I always wear my breast forms and dresstech silicone hip pads and never had issues with them.  The only other issue I have had is occasionally they will allow shoes through the scanners.  I found out my shoes had metal in them so I had to step back and take them off and put them on the conveyor.  TSA has never given me any issues other than that.

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Lady
(@paulahere)
Joined: 4 years ago

Reputable Member     St Thomas, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 345

@barbz when I traveled, I was wearing ankle length dress pants, no pockets.  A nice top. Bra with forms, panties, well tucked.  Shoes were removed going through the scanner.  Metal heel.

I did not contact anyone before showing up.  I used my male ID that has short hair and a beard from 8 years ago.  When TSA agent took a double look, I just said covid was kind to me.

I would always use tour known travel number the security process is easier.

As for them selecting male or Female, I have no idea.  I don't think I pass at all, but you never know.

My best advice is to talk in calm, relaxed and confident.   If you look scared it will trigger their suspicion that you are doing something wrong.  

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(@lauren114)
Joined: 7 months ago

Prominent Member     Connecticut, United States of America
Posts: 573

@paulahere I haven't flown enfemme yet but considering I love to travel, I should.   I'm wondering what it would be like to travel internationally as my authentic self.   I'm guessing it varies widely depending on the country you're visiting.

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Lady
(@joanarbour)
Joined: 8 years ago

Trusted Member     Missoula, Montana, United States of America
Posts: 55

@paulahere I had to just smile at the “full body scanner” Pride Heart

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(@Anonymous 93000)
Joined: 4 months ago

Estimable Member
Posts: 121

@paulahere Wow Paula, thanks for sharing and way to go girl.  You will be more confident than ever before to be you.

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Duchess
(@terrim)
Reputable Member     Long Island , New York, United States of America
Joined: 8 years ago

Congratulations Paula. I haven't flown yet enfemme.Done about everything else. You are so right that most people don't really care. If they do give you a funny look they are just showing their ignorance. When I go out as Terri I feel so myself and it sounds like you feel the same. Keep being you.
Yours Terri

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(@cdashley)
Noble Member     Oshawa, Ontario, Canada
Joined: 4 years ago

That’s great you’re out and feeling comfortable and enjoying yourself. Glad you’ve marked one off your bucket list.
Congratulation sister.

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(@kt1819)
Honorable Member     Ottawa area, Ontario, Canada
Joined: 6 years ago

Not by air but did just drive across the border from Canada to US (going to keystone conference - yippee)  fully dressed (light makeup, feminine glasses)  and did get in trouble and redirected to secondary.
No, nothing to do with my dresscode but on my side I had a box with some travel snack and on top was a bag of clementines and citrus fruits are not welcome to USA (despite "imported from USA").
Besides that no problems and not even a hint of issues with me wearing a skirt or so.

My friends expected way more and I was expecting less, maybe the clementines distracted them 🙂

/Kelly

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(@aliceunderwire)
Illustrious Member     Near Burlington, Vermont, United States of America
Joined: 4 years ago

Congratulations Paula on knocking an item off your bucket list.

Alice

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(@robertaf)
Prominent Member     Louisiana, United States of America
Joined: 4 years ago

I am on my way too Keystone, driving of course. I made a stop for gas and while there I walked in to an Arby’s for a bite of lunch.
I was feeling a little self conscious as I got a funny look from a woman customer at the gas store. I’m sitting eating and two woman about 10 years younger. Come up to me and ask me if my ears were burning. I just looked at her,,waiting for the reason. She goes on to say the two of them were talking about me. She said that they just loved my hair. Said it was so cute.
Needless to say it made my day.
Three hours later I’m trying to feed Money in a parking meter in downtown Staunton VA and some guy walking by and just looks at me and says you are beautiful, you are a beautiful lady

it has occurred to me that we might easily misinterpret sideways glances. Sometimes other people just do that and it might have nothing to do with CD ing  Sometimes others don’t like your short skirt, too much makeup or too much jewelry.
Or maybe too we’ll dressed or too pretty.
it’s just the way people do.
moral is, don’t assume

tautan Va.

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Baroness Annual
(@conniech)
Joined: 1 year ago

Estimable Member     Fairfax , Virginia, United States of America
Posts: 177

@robertaf What experiences you've had during your many travels!  Your pictures always show a very feminine Roberta💃🏼.  Staunton, Virginia: I lived for a year just outside city limits, near  Staunton Plaza. Downtown shops on Beverly Street were several and cute. Buildings of pre- Civil War architecture;  Staunton's downtown wasn't shelled or burned. I recall a restaurant by the train station: Old Mill? Gypsy Hil Park insude city limits was a delight. BTW, Virginia is one of only four +/- states with incorporated cities totally separate in jurisdictions from adjoining or surrounding counties. City of Staunton isn't part of Augusta County.  Thanks for mentioning it !

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(@robertaf)
Joined: 4 years ago

Prominent Member     Louisiana, United States of America
Posts: 815

@conniech After I checked in at the hotel. I asked the desk clerk if they had any places that might be suitable for a little walking and perhaps find dinner. He recommended that I go downtown to this one street, that I can't remember right now so it might have been Beverly.  Most all of the building were very old, and they did have a lot of stores and eateries. Unfortunately, it was a Monday, and everything was closed. I did have a nice walk and after driving all day that felt so good.   

Are you still in that area ? Do you go to Keystone ?

Thanks for reaching out to me. 

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(@conniech)
Joined: 1 year ago

Estimable Member     Fairfax , Virginia, United States of America
Posts: 177

@robertaf Alas, everything was closed😢. You had a nice walk anyway. 👍🏼

I live in Northern Virginia, Fairfax County. Staunton living and working was long long ago. I do want to visit there , and Harrisonburg (college) as well. Thing is, both small cities bring memories , including the early, happy years of my then (ex-) wife. 

Keystone 2024? Likely no. Not set in stone.

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Duchess
(@loneleycd)
Noble Member     Roland, Iowa, United States of America
Joined: 4 years ago

Your story reminds me of one of my own. Last Sunday I was in the mall headed to my Torrid job. A mall walker lady passed by me from behind and said 'nice boots' I just smiled and said 'uh thanks'.

. Cassie

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(@conniech)
Estimable Member     Fairfax , Virginia, United States of America
Joined: 1 year ago

Good for you for pressing thru the distraction!

"Oh my darlin, oh my darlin,
oh My DARRRNN Them
Clem-en-tines" 🎼🎵
(search old U.S. songs).

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Duchess
(@philma)
Reputable Member     St. Joe, Missouri, United States of America
Joined: 4 years ago

I can’t wait until I get a chance to fly en femme.  My local area and airport are small enough I’d probably run into someone I know & get clocked.  I’m not in a professional position (in the public eye at times, so to say…) to be outed yet around here, so I’d probably need to change between flights on a layover.

But still… I would LOVE to do it?  What is it about flying that is such a draw for us to dress?  I suppose it is maybe seeking further confirmation & acceptance express this side of us.

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Baroness
(@dianas1960)
Joined: 8 years ago

Estimable Member     South Central, Indiana, United States of America
Posts: 91

@philma I think it is the knowledge that we are trapped for hours without the ability to get out.  The same reason we sometimes have to go outside for just a moment En femme knowing that we maybe seen by out neighbors.

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(@robertaf)
Prominent Member     Louisiana, United States of America
Joined: 4 years ago

I thinks it’s just amazing how kind and sweet women can be. So different from the world of men, who never compliment anyone.

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Baroness
(@dianas1960)
Estimable Member     South Central, Indiana, United States of America
Joined: 8 years ago

I have flown en femme quite a few times now.  It is a bucket list step for sure.  Now crossing the border en femme I have not tried.  I guess I need a new bucket list item.

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(@jasmineva)
Trusted Member     Fredericksburg, Virginia, United States of America
Joined: 4 years ago

Congratulations!! It's definitely a terrific feeling traveling en femme. I travel 99.9% of the time as Jasmine Secrét. TSA understands, as do the airlines and gate agents. The only place I had looks, from teenage girls no less, was Dallas Ft. Worth airport.

Shrug off negative vibes from anyone, and keep being the best female you that you can be!

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Lady
(@jjandme)
Noble Member     California, United States of America
Joined: 4 years ago

To be fair, men get pretty beat up if they compliment anybody they don't know. If a guy walks up to a prefect stranger and say "I like your dress", he is likely to get shut down at best, and a beating at worst.

I do love to get comments from women when I am dressed, but would feel less comfortable if it were from a man.

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Lady
(@jjandme)
Noble Member     California, United States of America
Joined: 4 years ago

I have flown, and got "caught" by TSA, underdressed several times, but have no plans or desires to fly fully en femme. But, I do enjoy traveling by car en femme and stopping for gas and a bit to eat, etc.

Once, I got out of my car in drabto go to my motel room. In the morning I left fully en femme. There was a car and its owner next to me who just happened to be there the evening before. He saw me go in male and come out female. The puzzled look o. his face was priceless. I just smiled a t him and got in my car and drove away. Traveling en femme, by any modality can be very fun and rewarding, so get out there and enjoy yourselves.

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Duchess
(@terrim)
Reputable Member     Long Island , New York, United States of America
Joined: 8 years ago

I think women compliment us because we believe women are beautiful and want to look like one. Especially if we look good.

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