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Hi ladies….
Just a quick thought I had this morning while reading some replies on CDH.
When you are out, do you ever think or worry or wonder what you would do if you were caught up in a situation???
You under dressers….
twisted an ankle at work, or dropped something on your foot or even broke an arm or leg….basically had to strip off for treatment…would it worry you to reveal your underclothes or painted toenails??…do you have a ready excuse?? has it happened to you before??
Girls who go out dressed....
You collapse in the street, or trip on your heels, another driver hits your car, maybe a mugger steals your purse or you witness a crime and need to give a police statement….”can I take your name miss”??…
Gosh, you could even be out in the woods walking your dog and get attacked by squirrels….and can’t drive home…..😂😂😂😂😂
Would you be ok?? how would you deal with it?? Have you dealt with it before??
So what would you do?????
Stay calm…..it may never happen!!
Love, grace ❤️❤️
Ah the biggest fear . My gf would like me to underdress 24/7 . Problem is teen and older daughters and fear of driving to meet gf (60km) and being stopped by police or car crash . How would you survive the embarrasment in backward west of Ireland .
We would love to dine or walk as gf’s or dress or underdress everyday but fear of accident or being caught stops the hobby being reality .
Jenny
Hi Grace,
I think I can offer an answer to the underdressed question, given that’s mostly where I’m at, and also based on different but significant ‘whoops’ type scenarios that have happened in my life.
I’d probably think “D’oh” or some such expletive. I’d rather it not to have happened, but I’d have to accept the situation and get on with it – and just possibly with a new found “So what!?!” attitude
Marti xxx
Consequences, well I am definitely not walking around the woods in your area Grace, you have some mean squirrels.
If you dress fully open or even underdressed then as in life generally there is always consequences to consider. But isn’t it true to a lot of things, If you drive to fast,” what if?”.
Consequences the “what if” that hidden voice of sanity, the barriers that can trap you in the darkness of fear. As with every thing there is always a risk, but with out taking them the constraints will consume our freedoms. Emergency service won’t care,. Most people won’t care, if you are caught out just be natural, honest and remember it’s not a crime, or sin to wear what you want. But remember what your mother always said “Make sure you always have clean underwear on when you go out”.Oh Amanda….I remember being told by my parents to make sure I had clean underwear on if I went out….in case I was in an accident!!!!….
it’s ok to die …just die clean… haha
Yeah seemed such a misunderstood saying, as a child it made no sense, yet the meaning is obvious, hygienically you should wear clean underwear everyday.
It hasn’t happened, yet, but I do think about it, my response would be “oh well,crap happens”
just deal with it, and move on.
my mind, is firmly in “Im a cd’er, or trans, love it or leave it”
Hugs, Regi👸💕“oh well, crap happens” 💩💩💩…
….great answer Regi xx
Morning Grace, I have been out both ways many times. Pretty much underdress everyday and have been going out a lot more lately. One time when I was grocery shopping an older woman came up from behind me and asked straight up “ are you wearing a bra”. Which I wasn’t but rather a camisole. So I just turned around and replied “ no it’s just a cami”. Her face was priceless hun.
As far as being out fully dressed I’ve never had any issues but my wife always tells me to say I lost a bet if confronted by anyone.
hugsAshley
Underdressing doesn’t phase me too much. I work in an office so my circumstances that may cause a reveal are slim since I would only consider wearing panties or stockings in the office. Anything worn up top would be too ripe for a reveal. Now there have been times where file boxes and such have had to be moved which would require bending over and I have been real cognizant of my shirt riding up and some satin or lace peeking over the tops of my pants!
As far as going out dressed I’m not there yet as I have no wig nor any aptitude with makeup. Trying to track down someone in my area that can teach me makeup though. I would really like to see how feminine my appearance can be. If it works to my liking I will be that much closer to attempt a public outing.
Earlier on I spent quite a bit of time and mental energy on the ‘what ifs’ and possible consequences.
I knew in my heart that I felt better and more alive being dressed as I like and that I wanted more if it. So rather than be caught up in what might be an embarrassing situation or have hurtful rumours spread, I plucked up the courage to have conversations with the the people that mattered to me. Not everyone was fully supportive, but thats their choice. It took time but allows me to enjoy my life more freely.
Olivia
Hi Grace,
When I first started to dress it was only at home and was absolutely terrified of being seen or caught, all the what if scenarios with having to call for help and being found in my wife’s dress. It was part of the trill.
When I started wearing panties every day the worries were there, but then I came to the conclusion that it is my underwear, and I should wear what makes me feel good.
Then the conversation with my wife took place, and she was terrified of me being discovered, what would people day or think of her and of me. All the fear came back. So I stopped for a while.
Then we had a week away and I dresses fully enfemme for the week, and felt so much better. So back into panties under my work uniform of black dress shirt, and black dress pants.
I have had many people at work talk about the new sensitivity training they have taken, or how a freind just came out Trans, or this week the pride flag flying out front of the building. I don’t think anyone would care how I am dressed as long as I met the safety code and was fully covered. Work in a welding environment lots of sparks.
So I say go for it. Most people are so rapped up in their own world that they don’t have time to think about what you are wearing, unless you are out for attention, then you will get some attention, wanted or unwanted.
Paula
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I have given this a lot of thought and worry over the years but here is where I’m at: I don’t care! I under dress every day and even my daily “man” clothes are mostly womens but more androgynous. I was stopped once for speeding (only about 5-10 over and just a warning they were “watching” that road) fully dressed and the officer was polite and professional and didn’t care. I have been clocked in public as a cd/tg and nobody cared. I had to pick up my son from school early one day when he got hurt (not bad just a cut) and forgot I was wearing knee highs and flats, nobody noticed or cared. The theme here… nobody cares. I don’t worry about it anymore. I might be embarrassed about admitting I was attacked by squirrels though… that might be a little awkward?? I think it all depends on how YOU handle it more than what others think? If your fine with it and don’t make any issues about it most people won’t either, they don’t care. They have their own issues and would rather deal with them than yours. Have a wonderful life and be who you are.
🍷C I have in the past gone to a doctor’s appointment when I have underdressed without thinking that morning (just panties) and nothing has ever been said so I do not give it a thought anymore. If anything was said I would hope it was nice undies and I would say thinks. In the early days I might have said they were my so’s but not now.
Hi Grace,
Our squirrels are friendlier than yours, apparently; never a problem, though one of the rabbit rescues I had did latch on to my hand one time. (No real damage).
My attitude concerning being “caught” like you describe has evolved over time. Once, I would have felt trapped; but since I have fully accepted Bettylou as the real Me, it has become “I’m a CD, so what?”Hugs,
BettylouGrace,
I think most closeted dresser that never gets out of their house are stopped by these what if questions, myself included. The risks, burden and consequences of being outed is somewhat obvious to all of us, for me the bigger question is, can my family and I live with it if I am outed? It’s like going to the casino, bet only what you can afford to lose.
Rachel M
Lovely answer Rachel
I underdress 24/7 now. It took me too long to get to this point now to look back. If something happens that I have to strip down to my panties (i.e. emergency medical issue) then it is what it is. I am sure doctors and nurses have seen everything before so I am sure it would not phase them in the least.
Hugs
Emily
Bravo!!! …..good for you Emily !!!!!
Hi Grace I should of waited until i got back from shopping before reading your post I just spent hours getting ready. Getting attack by squirrels would be the worst. I was picturing trying to protect my favorite nuts with one hand and beating them of with the other. I am sure would look like a mess when the ordeal was over. Now I will make sure I bring more make up before i go. Be prepared for anything. I believe it is a boy scout motto that every CD should follow. The only thing to fear is fear itself. I believe it was a very famous British man said that during a time when nerves a needed to be calmed, Do not worry about it You can not control how other will react. So why worry about it.
Luv Stephanie
Thank You Marti I feel a little embarrassed now It was a famous American not a British man. Same people only separated by language and pronunciation
I under dress most days, I think about what people might say if I was in an accident, but at the same time, I don’t really care. My clothes should not affect them in any way!
Leah.
Your answer is appearing here a lot….and it’s a great attitude xx
My mind was full of all these ‘what if ‘ scenarios and how would I deal with the consequences of being found out just before I stepped outside for the first time fully dressed two weeks ago. As it turned out, nothing happened to me. I understand there were risks, but to me that seemed to add to the excitement of doing it. Being out will bring new challenges – but I’ve gone past several mental barriers already to get here. I don’t want to get over confident and put myself in awkward situations – I want remain sensible about what I’m doing. But I’d also like to look back and be happy I took a few risks and experienced it rather than wonder what it would have been like.
So yes I consider the consequences seriously but also try to remember it’s not guaranteed to happen.You are so right….Of course nothing is guaranteed to go wrong…..you are going along nicely, well done!!! xx
I only underdress and only just recently started because I’m scared to death of one of those medical emergency scenarios. I gave it a try because so many gals here encouraged me to. Sometimes peer pressure can be a positive thing! But do to the underlying fear it will only be occasionally, a few days a week when I know I will be at my desk most of the day. Wore panties AND thigh high stockings yesterday because I was only working a half day and figured the stocking would stay up that long. 🤣
But I am slowly turning my fear of getting caught into a fascination of sorts. I stopped by a store on my way home yesterday. While standing in line feeling my stocking hidden nicely by my boi jeans I started looking around and thinking, What would this person or that person say if they knew.
The guy with the man bun would probably say: Hey, you do you.
The little cheerleader girlie would probably turn away and start texting her friends: Oh my gawd, this dude at Walmart! So gross!
The burly, bearded biker dude wearing a leather cut with his mc logo on the back: Yeah, you know he’s wearing ’em underneath too…with a Hello Kitty garter belt. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
💖Lola
(This is my first post on this forum!)
I’m curious, there’s regions where underdressing may lead to complications (like Ireland and Oklahoma) but I’ve been looking around for some nice undies and found some interesting underwear which are made for the ladies while still looking like it would fit on a man without arousing suspicion (especially when compared to some flashy Bjorn Borg like underwear). To be sure, I’d rather wear something nice and feminine (and do, since recently) but for my work where I sometimes have to do physical work these would suffice while still feeling feminine?
On the topic: I’ve got some nice undies this week, and am basically intending to underdress as of now. I’m not really afraid if someone in my workplace sees them peek out my trousers. It’s a very tolerant workplace (in my experience) so I’m sure it wouldn’t be a problem.
I’m not wearing anything other than undies yet though, I’m looking for something to wear under a t-shirt which isn’t too hot for summer weather.As for being caught by ambulance personel, I’ve been in a very bad accident a few years back and they’d cut all my clothes off to treat breaks and scrapes and such. Those people are absolute pro’s at their job and I feel they wouldn’t say anything if they found something. Though your next of kin may actually see something, when they visit the emergency room (like my wife did, I was in full male garb though).
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Felicia I definitely understand what you mean about some regions being “complicated” but being from Oklahoma and having dressed fully, dressed feminine androgynous (every day) and under dressing (don’t own any male underwear) here as well as all over the US I find that most places, at least in the US aren’t as judgmental as we fear. I think we are much more concerned than others. I have been to countries where things are a little more serious about offenses to certain religious tenets and don’t dress there (still under dress as I thats all I have), but I believe most people just don’t care as they have their own worries. So if you ever end up in Oklahoma don’t worry and dress as you want, we are pretty easy going and accepting of everyone (except Texans… sorry Bettylou 😂😂). Have a wonderful day.
🍷CNo offense taken, Carolyne,
We make special allowances for folks in that “backward” province of Texas; things like you referring to us as Baja Oklahoma. Bless your hearts.Hugs,
BettylouBettylou, I was checking the parking lot here at the hospital one day for folks using the handicap spaces without a mirror placard or license plate to issue a parking ticket to. There was a car I found doing just that, so I went into our office for a citation and told my supervisor what I needed. He asked which spot it was in and I showed him the pic I had taken on the phone to go with the ticket.
He looked at it for a minute then told me it had the required stickers all over the back window, and pointed out the many OU decals that were present.
We let it go so as not to appear mean.
PaulaF
LOL. Stuff like that does happen, Paula. I can remember after LBJ became President, the Capitol police were afraid to write tickets for any car with a Texas license plate.
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Paula I agree with the ou sentiments… I went to OSU and we made Playboys top 10 party college list every year I was there so I know I got an “education”. I always tell people never get between texass and Oklahoma because as mean as they can be to each other, it’s like family and they WILL stick together when someone else is involved. So to all my texass cousins, yall have a great 4th and be safe!
🍷C
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Only a true Southern Lady would remember that one Mrs Bettylou. I haven’t heard “Bless your little hearts” in so long. Thanks for the great memories. I hope you have a wonderful Independence Day down south in that other state.
🍷C LOL. And a very happy 4th to you, too, Carolyne.
Hugs
Bettylou
Well did happen and when first outed by a accident at work remember that time posted about chemical spill and had to undress in front of some of the employees involved to. Well had on this real cute bra and panty set underneath. But anyways no cares now since filling my top and can see my natural b cup breasts through my shirt. So wear woman’s skinny jeans and woman t shirt. But also if was in another accident in the woods or wherever and ended up at ER would have no cares. As long as they don’t cut open my panties or bra be owing me a new set. lol Oh have some bobcats around here don’t want to be walking and come up to one or more.
Donna
Hi Grace, nice topic. I’m pretty sure you know how I’m going to answer. I’m underdressed pretty much 24/7. And go out in public dressed en femme quite often. Do I worry about being in a situation where my clothes come off due to an accident? Nope, not at all. Being a senior, I don’t have time to worry about stuff like that. But my wife, on the other hand, would be mortified and would give me quite the talking to even if I’m lying in a hospital bed. And she’d be frustrated looking through my closets and chests of drawers looking for drab clothes to bring to the hospital for me to change into. No way would she ever bring my en femme clothes. But it would sure make a funny story in a few years. – you know comedy is tragedy plus time.
Now I’ve heard those British squirrels can be quite nasty. Luckily here in NW Canada our squirrels, because of the cold weather, are kind of runt sized and stay in their nests most of the time.
Love Ya, Hugs, Krista
HI Grace I do worry some about someone seeing my panties at work when I bend over or hurting my foot and someone seeing my painted toes.
I was working on my 25 year old daughters bath tub one day, she doesn’t know about dads femme side.
Well she kinda may now.
My wife said she saw my black pnties as I was bent over working on her tub drain.
My wife said my daughter blushed .
It always gets my wife nervous if I show.LOL
Underdress with panties almost always, and not sure but I think been “caught” twice with panties peeking out top of jeans.
Once at work bending to pick something up many years back. Last time more recent helping a neighbor unexpectedly on his water cutoff.
As luck would have it, a red or brite pink panty so hard to miss.
Have never been completely sure, but always has me wondering when talking the neighbors now.
Hugs
Christie
Grace,
Great convo starter! Amazing responses! I will say you went right to the worst case scenarios. I gotta admit, never worried about squirrels or wildlife! I do not worry about the medical situations. They are professionals, and have a job to do, the color of our panties or nails is the least of their problems!
I will say that every outing should have a “risk assessment” before proceeding. Walking into a rough bar dressed in your best cocktail dress would not be a good idea. Weigh the risk of getting treated badly with what you want to do.
Underdressing and dressing should be enjoyable. Most shop owners and service industry workers will view you as a customer. And that is something we all should look forward to!
Stay safe, Grace!If you are worried about first responders or medical personnel seeing you in panties, I’ll tell you, don’t worry. They don’t care. And you’re probably not the first. You might get a compliment, but I doubt you’ll get any negative reaction.
I don’t paint my toenails. First, for me, I don’t get it. I’m not trying to get people to look at my feet. Just because toenails are made of the same substance of fingernails doesn’t mean I have to paint them. And even if I wanted to, pre-pandemic I was taking off my socks for a Pilate’s class at work twice a week, so I would not paint my toenails.
I wore thongs to work, usually black. I would change in the gym at work for exercise classes. I discovered that people don’t really look at you anyway. Plus, standing in the corner I can hide my bare behind, and bending over slightly my tee shirt covers enough that it doesn’t look enough like women’s underwear.
Regarding “worst case” scenarios, last summer while going shopping I got into an auto accident when someone made a turn right in front of me to go into a parking lot, and I had no choice but to tee-bone them. A part time firefighter came over and got me out of the car (there was smoke from the exploding airbag). I was unhurt except for some bruises from the seat belt and the exploding air bag. Before the police or ambulance came, I did get back to my car (with his assistance) to collect stuff out of my car. I discovered my wig had come off. Now I have long hair, and I happened to have my clip-on bangs under the wig (I went to the beach earlier in the day and forgot to take them off before putting on the wig). But I did put the wig on and collect as much from the car that I would need and could stuff into my purse.
Of course the police and ambulance came. I gave the officer (a woman) my license, registration and insurance card (all with my male name on it) and was sent to the ambulance to be checked out. They asked my name in the ambulance and I gave my male name. No double take, no funny looks, no comment, just professional. They checked me over and didn’t think I needed to go to the hospital, and I didn’t think I needed it either. (I did discover later that I was bleeding at the base of both thumbs because the airbag scraped the skin there; my daughter who picked me up went into a drug store to get bandages for my thumbs.)
When I got out, the policewoman gave me back my paperwork, again with no funny looks or comment. They took all the info so I didn’t have to show my paperwork to the other driver. I don’t believe he thought I was a guy until perhaps the police reports came in days later. The gentleman who helped me out of my car kept a firm grip on my arm as support the whole time until I went to the ambulance (he even wanted to get a seat for me to sit down while waiting).
Anyway, the bottom line is that the police and ambulance personnel treated me respectfully, the other gentleman believed he was helping a lady, and it wasn’t a disaster of discovery that you might imagine. Use caution, but don’t let a wild running imagination stop you from doing what you want to do.
Alison…
what an awesome story….thank you x
I underdressed all of the time and have for two decades,though not everyday. In offices. I always made certain y shirts had long shirt tails. I also was really aware of who might be t a bathroom urinal. The worst was when I arrived home having to remember if I was wearing a ties or not so I could change in front of my unknowing SO.
I think about it a lot but I don’t care 🤷♂️. It’s who I am and the first responders shouldn’t think twice about helping someone in need.
As far as getting your clothes cut off and seeing your undergarments oh well lol. I rather them do that and treat me than not treat me because I’m a crossdresser.
I’m a tow truck operator and provide emergency roadside service to others that have been in wrecks or breakdowns. I have come across many people that live many lifestyles but I treat them with respect regardless what lifestyle they live.
For me when I’m dressed I have taken man clothes with me before and I do have a handful of friends that I can depend on if I get in a trouble spot that know I crossdress.
Over the years, I have found myself in some awkward and unexpected situations. At first, it was traumatic to say the least. I have even felt vulnerable when I found myself in a situation no sane woman would want to be in. From being “caught” by the police in a “compromising” position with a friend to traffic stops, merchandise returns, and many other everyday situations. Now, I have no problem telling a police officer my name or giving information. After awhile it becomes so routine I really don’t give it a thought. Flying is even more of a hassle when dealing with TSA. Some agents are cool with it and others are not so much.
More about airports and the TSA …..?
Just a note about first responders and ER/hospital staff. Like many have mentioned, making sure you are alright and will survive whatever you are with them for, they just do not care what you are wearing or how much makeup you have on.
If they need to cut you out of your lovelies, look at the bright side, you get a free set of surgical scrubs to wear home, and a cute pair of banana yellow non-skid socks. You will also receive a personal property bag with all of your personal belongings enclosed, sealed and autographed by a cool security guard like moi.
If there is any giggling about your choice of clothing and such, you will never hear it, and it will stop as soon as the next patient arrives.
PaulaF
Banana yellow non skid socks…….I never realised that was part of the deal!!!!!
It has crossed my mind about various scenarios,what if…
Serious accident, what will family think when they come get me or collect me if I don’t survive
Car issues (won’t start, locked keys, a breakin) when crossdressed… and being somewhere (neighboring cities) I hadn’t mentioned I was going to
Medical emergency while dressed at home
Death and family looking through my belongings
Being a witness to a crime or situation, needing to talk with authorities, needing to explain at home
My wife reading this website and reading my posts… she knows I CD, she doesn’t know I have a feminine name
Lea….
What’s left of my family sorting through my stuff when I die…. OMG, I hope I’m looking down from somewhere when that happens!!!!!!!
Used to but not anymore.
The one thing I have not done is go to my doctors wearing panties. One time she did ask me if I shaved my legs. I said I did because I have so little hair to begin with, which is true.
She sort of giggled and said, my husband is the same way and me, I have hair for ever!!! She wished she was more like her husband and me. It was a funny, good moment.
The thing I still am anxious about most, is running into someone I know. Last night I was at the grocery store, wearing capri length jeans as I always do, and there was a parent of one of my daughters friends. Sort of awkward, the type of person who would not be too into my way of dressing, but there it was. What can I do about it?
🙂Rebekka…I totally understand the concern about running into someone you know…it’s probably one of the biggest worries.
When I was diagnosed with depression, I spilled everything to my family doctor….even showed her my toenails, she liked the colour..xx
Funny story (sorry I’ve told this before)
I was out, wearing capri jeans, black womans flats, legs shaved of course and a white shirt. Pretty inconspicuous look. I was at a store front in our down town section waiting for it to open when along came a couple we were acquainted with. Our kids were in school together and such. The male is one of these people who is really stuck on himself, and the ivy league colleges his kids have gone too.
They saw me and stopped to talk, and I was somewhat frozen thinking “Oh Sh@!@#t”!!! But the guy as normal, just blabbed on about his kid having gotten into a big colleague back east, on and on, while his wife was standing there looking me up and down. (Mind you he was wearing the standard shorts, polo shirt and spiffy sneakers). She was wearing capri length jeans, black flats and a white blouse!!!! It was so damn funny!!!! She never said a word other than “hi”, but was really giving me the once over, as we were dressed identically! He was so stuck on himself and his kid, he never noticed a thing!
It was so funny!!!!
A fond memory for sure!
I used to but not much anymore. I have had two innocent interactions with law enforcement and had to identify myself. They were assisting me both times. It was nerve racking but afterwards a little exciting. I have met many people I know including close family members when out. They don’t know Michelle and I have little fear they would ever realize that it was me. Its kind of a exciting challenge really.
Panties to the doctored was the last hurdle for me as far as wearing them 24/7 and it was no problem at all. None of my doctors are ladies but a couple of the female nurses have seen them and just smiled. I am hoping for a compliment some day. I hear that female doctors are much more inclined to give compliments so if I see one I will be sure to wear nice panties for that visit. I mean extra nice as all panties are nice to wear.😊
Definitely own it. My wife was asking these questions one night then she realized it wouldn’t really matter. Who cares what other people think, unless their going to hurt you, then think quick…
— Abbie 😘
It used to be a very big consideration………………..but these days I will “roll the dice” nothing will happen if it does well, I will be a big girl and deal with it. Just like I was writing about in “cold turkey”, I am my SO’s caregiver as she cannot see………for the time being. So I dress around her as karley!!! Maybe she will hold back on admitting how much she actually does see so she can observe sweet karley…………………..and accept her…………..instead of a total shock to the system of an “announcement” that her guy likes to dress as a woman…………………………k
It does cross my mind from time to time as I am on the road for most of the week. Honestly my wife worries about it more than I do. I wear a Waist trainer during my work day as I am trying to shape my body a little ( and finding it is working well ) Panties and now we are in Winter I can also wear leggings. Now I have been doing it for a while it does not concern me too much but I do understand why my wife is worried about it.
I got caught at least 3 times that I can remember, once after a car accident I was rear ended with bad whiplash, had to be taken to the hospital where the Doctor and the nurse giggle a little to see my panties sticking out the back of my pants, and twice by my family doctor who is great, and always able to make me smile. Mind you she is the same doctor who told me I should start wearing a bra to deal with the backpain I was having about a month before so I listened and the comment was at least they match.
Andrea….
Sorry about your back pain but…..
what a fantastic excuse ( if you ever needed one ) to wear a bra!!!!!
I am now😳
48 hours in Edinburgh full en femme, please don’t die please don’t die!! Or an accident, accidont!! Heart attack-CPR- my forms!!! If it happens it happens, I can see the look on the ambulance crew faces as my boobs fall off, we’ll see how Unflusterable they are!!!
Oh I forgot, I’m immortal and unbreakable, and love life too much to waste it worrying over the pitfalls that may become me.
❤️Bianca
B💓
“I can see the look on the ambulance crew faces as my boobs fall off, we’ll see how Unflusterable they are!!!”
Omg….hysterical!!!! xx
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I underdress every day with panties and a bra but it wasn’t so easy at first because I was worrying too much about what might happen if caught. I realized my anxiety was bringing undue attention and if I just acted normal then people were less likely to notice anything so thats when I decided its my life and I’m dressing as I want when I want. The anxiety disappeared. I’ve been underdressing for so long now its just normal nd I feel naked if not wearing the basic bra and panties.
Cross dressing is a lifestyle choice (I know it borders on choice and got to do this) like any other you see in every day life. If other people can express themselves as they want with tattoos, piercings, weird hair, leather outfits, pajamas at the grocery store, or otherwise alt lifestyles, then I can too no matter what others think. Its not a crime and I think its being accepted more and more all the time.
Well said honey xx
About 5 or 6 years ago, I needed to go to get some items at the grocers for a new recipe I was trying. I changed my blouse and touched up my makeup and headed for the store.
Once inside, I ran into one of our ultra-sound techs so we walked a few aisles we both needed some things on. We both noticed a GG coming from the other way, and she was sort of staring at us as we passed. I wasn’t sure if she was staring at me or at Mark( he is a cutie, btw). This happened with the same woman on two more aisles and i was getting a bit miffed about it.
On the third aisle, I was staring at her as openly as she was us. This time, she stopped us and asked Mark where she knew him from because he looked very familiar. Being a gentleman, he sighed and cleared his throat, and as professional sounding as he could be under the circumstances he said “Maam, I performed your vaginal ultra-sound this morning.” (Which is a very personal and intimate procedure). The lady’s chin nearly hit the cart she was pushing, and I swear she turned almost fire engine red as she hurried by us, left her cart and headed for the exit.
So, it just shows, even when we are out in public as our better selves, others do not always see us as we think they do. We don’t register on their consciousness, or they are too wrapped up in their own lives to care.
Have fun and enjoy times you can be out, and don’t worry so much about the normies.
PaulaF
Oh gosh…
I need to pee..😂💓😂💓😂💓
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I came around a curve while driving my vette and saw a sheriff license stop and check roadblock. No where to go but thru it. When it was my turn the officer told me I need your license, registration and proof of insurance ma’am. I got them out and handed them to him. He looked at the license and stooped down to take a closer look at me. He said you look different than this license. I told him I’m dressed as a girl today and out driving, he looked at the license again, walked to the back of my car to see if my tag was current, walked back handed me my info and said “enjoy the rest of your day ma’am. Of course I was shaking in my panties but remained as calm as could be, then drove on. He was polite and did his job very professionally.
I used to be nervous about it, but now I just go about my happiness. Even long trips don’t make me nervous anymore.
Sandy
Sandy…..wow 💓❤️💓
Gosh Sandy that was close he may have wanted to take down your particular ooooooer.
What a great story…. Thank you for sharing your experience…. It was an example that we can take to heart…Leonara
last year i was helping my sister who is 8 years younger than me cut some branches off a tall tree in her garden, I was using an old wooden ladder, when quite high up one rung of the ladder broke and my weight then dropped down and broke the other rungs and I fell, the broken rungs stuck in the side of my leg and ripped open my jeans exposing my nylons with blood everywhere, my sister wanted to cut my jeans leg off so she could attend to my badly cut leg, at this stage I was panicking because I was wearing my lingerie, I got up telling her it was fine and quickly hobbled back to my house which luckely is only 300_metres away and undressed and attended to my leg, in not bothered about being caught by people that don’t know me, but scared to death about my family finding out, I still look at the tree and wonder what the hell I was doing that high up at then72 years old
Alana…..72 and leaping out of trees….I think you missed your vocation…
you should have been in ” Last of the Summer Wine”
Grace x
I used to worry about getting caught a lot. That scared feeling has gotten a lot less the past year though. I think it’s the fact that I am accepting myself a lot more, and thanks to all you girls at CDH, I don’t feel like there is anything wrong with me for being a CD, or dressing however I like. Now, I’m only out to a handful of people IRL, so I am discrete. I always underdress, I figure if I’m in an accident or something, then so be it, must be time to show the world the real me.
I did end up in the ER last summer with a broken wrist, but I was already wearing shorts and a t-shirt, so I didn’t need to take anything off. And I don’t think medical professionals would run around and tell the world about me anyway. Honestly, I’ve kind of wanted to tell my general physican, just to get it out there, but then I don’t know that it really makes any difference for my health care anyway, so why even tell her?
When I go out fully dressed, I try to go to places where I am not likely to see anyone I know. I don’t worry too much about strangers seeing me or knowing. I worry more about some odd mishap, like I’m working and rip my pants or something. I’d rather not be abruptly outed to my coworkers with an, I see London, I see France… kind of situation.
Birel
To me, the risk of getting “caught” (not really doing anything wrong) is less than the risk of never trying and wondering what if for the rest of my life. But everyone’s mileage may vary 😀.
I’ve got to the stage where I don’t really care and when I do have to dress as a male I make sure I’m wearing something suitable underneath that makes me feel all woman. I used to worry about this and that but I’ve spent far too much time in the wrong gender, so I decided when the last lockdown started that I’m going to plunge further down the rabbit 🐇 hole and do and wear all the things I need to be me! So that will be highest heels possible and the micro mini of my dreams! And thus far I’ve never been so happy, I still occasionally have to present as male but other than that I dress as a female. So happy days are here forever 💖
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Well dear Grace, you jinxed me!! Haven’t been to a hospital in 20 + years other than to visit but YOUR post made me just have to break that streak.
last night I had something fall off a shelf while helping my beloved look for whatever was supposed to be up there. It fell sharp end first on my foot, while wearing sandals putting a very deep cut in the top of my foot/big toe. After using compression to slow the blood flow and wrapping it in a (no joking, I am serious here) ladies heavy overnight pad, and wrapping that up again we went to the emergency room. Now, as Paul Harvey would say… The rest of the story. I had just the day before done my toenails and had them painted a pretty but neutral color but obviously painted and pedi’d. I have on a cute pair a women’s jeans from Maurice’s, a lavender ladies t shirt, ladies thin black belt, obligatory ladies panties and 1 ladies abeo flip flop. Yes my legs are well shaved and lasered smooth as well. Wifey never said anything about attire or pedi and neither did nurses or doctors.
So my dearest sister Grace, CHECKED THAT BOX!! 😂😂. Everyone was a complete professional and all that mattered was the wound. For the record somewhere around 8 stitches and a bone bruise.
🍷COuch Carolyne….the things you do to test a theory….
Seriously, eight stitches!!! I hope you heal quick…and are better soon….
but yet another tick in the ‘ 101 uses for a ladies pad ” column
Huggs xx
I think I echo the sentiments of most of the women in here. I take the attitude of letting the chips fall where they may. A lot of times,much to the chagrin of my wife, I’ll push the boundaries with my femme underdressing. Wearing torn jeans with pantyhose or tights, no show socks with my pantyhose. The world that doesn’t know about this side of me is gradually getting smaller. The people who have been told are very supportive and it just reassures me. I would have no cares if they cut my britches off of me to see my fabulous lingerie, I would just be upset they destroyed my fabulous lingerie.
I may have a different outlook on this question. But kinda at that I don’t care what other people think age. I’m so self reliant that I can handle myself in an emergency. And tempering with the idea that EMTs and emergency room personnel have seen everything. I’ve underdressed at work, once and may do it again. Especially since this week I started nipple enhancement, which has left me a little raw. I’ve been taping gauze pads over my nipples to protect them from from being irritated by my work tee shirt. But you (I) can see the pads right through the shirt, but no one at work has said anything. And as I’m now at a bar with my drinking buddies, I have the Supple Nips devices on. I’m wearing a tank top, and with just that everyone could see them poking out. I have a loose shirt on over the tank to hide the definite points on my chest.
Grace,
It wouldn’t bother me at all
I would just say that I am a crossdresser and leave it at that.Kathleen xxxxx❤💋
Hi Grace.
I am very much in the closet but what I’ve noticed lately is that as I get older I care less and less about what people think.
When I was younger and married I always worried about being outed by my wife. You would think that the person you’ve given your heart to and confided your biggest secret in would be more considerate of your feelings but not my wives. (Was married twice). They both used their knowledge of my crossdressing as a weapon to beat me down with. Threatened to out me to my friends and family during arguments that had nothing to do with my habit. Put up with a lot of abuse that left me feeling very insecure anxious and depressed.
It was obvious to me that my first marriage was a huge mistake and it was over by the time I was 25 and my second marriage by the time i was 35. It wasn’t all bad though because my second marriage produced 2 kids that I ended up raising on my own as a single parent. Their both very close to me and I love them to death.
Sorry getting way off track here… i guess whats got me caring less and less about being exposed is how much views have changed since i was a kid. The younger generation is, I think anyway, more accepting because of their increased exposure to social movements calling for equal rights and treatment for LGBTQ etc…. also both wives outed me to my family for wearing pantyhose but I’ve suffered from sore legs since I was a youngster so that was my excuse for wearing them. Coincidentally, my doctor recently prescribed me support hose for this very issue. Now i wear pantyhose daily under my pants without worrying about someone else seeing them. I even talked to my older brother about trying them because he’s suffering from aching legs now too. He still thinks that’s crossing the line for a guy though. Rediculous I say.Thanks for listening
Hello Julie.
I think ” the older I get, the less I seem to care” is quite common….
…and I used to go night fishing in the winter….perfect excuse to wear tights..
Grace x
I don’t really care or worry much about being out either underdressed or dressed. I have been to some of my doctors underdressed. One time was to the urologist when he did my prostate biop, I pasted out when I tried to get up off the table afterwards. His PN stayed with me while I recovered and helped me get dressed and she didn’t bat an eye at my leopard panties. Now I tend to dress more when I go out and I always carry a purse. So who cares!!
Omg….I have just realised….I don’t have leopard panties!!!!
……yet xx
Mmm me too,must get some now as got leopard print everything else! Gosh i love 💘 animal print it rocks my world🌎
One thing lockdown has taught me is life is too short to worry about what others think? Especially if they dont understand what we go thru everyday! Life can be so hard but the rewards are amazing and now ive started hrt im starting to become more femme and i dont even try to hide anything anymore as i am who i am and once the process begins ill be who ive always wanted to be. I dont care what the public think, i haven’t a care in the world. I shop for things i wouldnt of dreamed buying a few years ago and go in womens shops like i own it. Something i thought id never get my head around as i used to be so shy. I present as a women on a daily basis and don’t see any other way of living now. This is making me very happy and its all down to starting on hrt xx
Good on you!!
I don’t always fully dress (often too lazy to shave), but it is soooo delicious when I do. Yesterday I was fully dressed when I had to go out to help the SO bring up some groceries, and just as I was going out the door our new neighbor was going out to walk his dog. We said hi and chatted for a few moments and he when on his way and I got the groceries. No big deal.
I don’t really present all that well, but then I am 75 so I don’t think that I do all that badly for my age. I know that I can’t look like a 20 something but for 75 maybe I am not that bad. I look at current pictures of Helen Mirren who is like six months older than me and is still a very pretty lady and I don’t feel so bad about myself. I do wish I had her bone structure and boobs though!
In fact I have just updated my medical records to show the preferred name as Leslie and gender as mtf. So I guess that I am another big step out of the closet. And it was fun the other day to go to one of my urologist visits and be called back to the exam room as Leslie and responding to it like I had always been called that! I am not sure about pronouns yet it doesn’t seem to matter all that much. Though I guess it would be fun to read the urologist’s after visit report if I insisted on female pronouns, “her prostate is enlarged and her PSA is elevated and her testosterone levels are within normal range”?
Maybe I just have a warped sense of humor?!?!
I’ve enjoyed reading everyone’s take on this subject. I am at the point in my life that I don’t care what people think. Probably my age is also a factor. I underdress always. Panties full time. Nails always done. Even the little piggies. Plus I have some outward things I do everyday. I’ve been letting my hair grow since the start of COVID so it is quite long now. Just below my shoulders. Found some hats on Amazon for ponytails. The hole is higher up on back. That’s the only way I can keep my hair from being annoying. I have both ears pierced with 2 holes apiece. Wear a hoop and stud in each ear. I usually have a little mascara on. And thanks to Plexaderm l have no bags under my eyes. That’s my daily routine. I go to work everyday like this.
Today I was out totally dressed (burgundy top, with bra and forms, cut off lady’s jeans, necklace and big old engagement ring, black trainers and only a gaff for underwear). I walked about a block each way to the mail box to mail a bill payment. Then went to the drug store to pick up several prescriptions (getting older and the number of them just keeps increasing) and to the grocery store. I had my purse with me at both places. No one made any comments or funny looks that I noticed. Granted I can only pass a middle age not very good looking lady (but at 75 I’ll take that as a win).
I have to admit that Tuesday I had lunch with my older brother who I have not come out to. I was totally underdressed but still had my gold nail polish on, he seemed to notice but said nothing. I suspect that he has always suspected that I was sort of this way if not gay, so maybe it wasn’t that much of a surprise to him. We still haven’t talked about it and probably never will. I am kind of sorry about that but I guess it is really up to me to bring it up. So overall I am not terribly concerned about being read. As has been said doctors, hospitals worker and EMS people have seen it all already so I don’t expect any big flap from them if I am in an accident or have any other medical emergency. And if it bothers them it is their problem not mine. I just want to enjoy what ever days I have left preferably presenting as female as I can.
Sorry about the ramble just wanted to say.Hugs Leslie.
Hi Grace! I’ve been found out so many times I can’t remember them all! In ’95 the absolute worst happened I sustained many traumatic injuries and found myself regaining consciousness in the trauma center and a nurse was beginning to cut my slacks and shirt off! I was underdressed to the hilt I was wearing panties and pantyhose, with stockings over the pantyhose, two sexy lacy garter belts, a WYOB tank top like shaper, two full slips and perfume spread liberally on the lingerie Talk about a shock! I started yelling for her to stop as she started snipping on my slacks I woke up many days later and no one ever mentioned it Once in my mid twenties I was underdressed in about the same way and was parked in a field next to a school a coulpe of miles out of town I had taken my jeans off and had my shirt unbuttoned I had a lacy half slip and a nice skirt on over my stockings and garter belt, I had on a bra and camisole and was busy practicing my makeup application Suddenly I heard a female voice and I freaked! There were two female Sheriff’s deputies right by my driver’s door! So there I was, wearing women’s clothing and a lap full of makeup! They checked my ID and ran me for wants and warrants I was clean so the Sargeant asked what I was doing So I told her! She said a neighbor had called in suspecting that I was there to burglarize the school Those two deputies turned out to be a couple and they felt bad that I was so embarrassed and ashamed, totally freaking out, that they talked kindly to me and told me to find a better place and left! Another time I was in a large new neighborhood under construction, only the streets were paved and I went to a secluded cul de sac and took off my jeans and shirt, got dressed up and put on my heels and just sashayed around I was really enjoying being dressed up and outside Suddenly a car drove through the intersection down the block! I ran and ducked behind my car But they backed up and turned my way! It was a couple of guys and a chic They drove right up to my car! I was busted again! They harassed me until I jumped in the car and drove off
Lucia…
Maybe you should write your memoirs…..get it all down for posterity’s sake…..you could have a bestseller.,..
Thanks for telling x
Hi Grace, thanks for your response I have been told by several doctors and nurses that I should write a book And really, I have an amazing story to tell I wish I felt well enough to get it done Maybe I’ll do what one of my doctors told me, ” at least record it and maybe someone in your family will finish it” Happy Saturday night sweetheart Peace and love 😘, Lucia
I am going to underdress in panties today when I go to town shopping
Grace, I have thought about situations like you described when I have gone out dressed up. I decided that I can’t worry about those types of things happening. If I did, I’d never go out dressed up. What will I do if something happens? I’ll figure it out when the situation arises.
Stephanie…
I totally agree with you x
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I went to the cardiology clinic yesterday for a stress test. I wear panties almost everyday and yesterday was no exception. In the waiting room, I wondered if I was going to have to change out of my clothes into a gown. My size does not necessarily allow for full coverage when I tie it up. The lady practitioner took me to the change room and ask me to take my shirt off but leave my pants on. Close call. It would have been the first time I would have had to respond to underdressing.
Yikes!!!!….Those gowns that tie up at the back….if they don’t stretch around, there’s no hiding place!!!
…..hope your test went well.
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Gown wide open to the front to attach the tabs to my chest.
My heart rate did not get up to the level they wanted which is not good for the test but says something good about my heart. The test did not go as long as they had hoped as it was almost impossible to go on a treadmill wearing a mask. I think they are chasing a rainbow and there is nothing too serious going on.
I haven’t collapsed or had to give my name to the police, but a police woman ran out of the line of officers in a pride parade towards me as I was jumping up and down in a very short, sequined dress in the middle of the day last Saturday.
I was a bit worried, I don’t mind telling you… My dress was very short…
But she almost screamed at me “Here’s a sticker for your amazing outfit!!’, and promptly slapped a sticker on my left breast!
I was recording a movie at the time, and have that incredible moment for posterity.
After that, I am not bothered about anything to do with my cross dressing – I am proud of it, as should we all be.
Love Laura
Laura…sounds like a great day….aren’t our police force wonderful….
and you got a ” bumper” sticker!!!
I kept the sticker on my dress all day – it was a big, round Dorset Constabulary sticker, with the crest and everything.
I thought, if anyone asked me why I was dressed in a short, green sequined dress, I could say “Plain clothes duty”.
🤣🤣🤣😍😍😍
Love Laura
That’s brilliant!!!.. 😂😂
” Im PC Laura, and this is a bust” !!!!!
Ok I am literally at work underdressed for the first time and I pick this post to read. lol.
Pre planned excuse? Uhmm no. I guess I would just tell the truth and tell them my wife didn’t finish the laundry so I wore her panties. Hahaha. In all actuality I would probably freeze and say nothing. Covering up secrets with lies isn’t my style and never works out. I like wearing them. That’s why. Scary AF tho.Hi Marie…
This was posted, not to scare anyone……
BOO!!!!…..
but to make girls aware that things COULD go wrong….so just be aware…..
please dont have sleepless nights…..
Grace x
I have always considered the consequences because the first time my parents made the discovery they made it plain and simple. That there will be consequences. 50’s 60’s 70’s even the 80’s thinking about consequence filled your head as much as your need to dress. I rather take no chances with my families lively hood just to over under dress. I always have a small pocket knife to cut the side of my panties. I will do anything as long as Iam aware to make sure to cover myself. I feel for those coming behind me as your doings on the internet could be your ruin. I am retired and secure. No job to lose. No career to ruin. No family to destroy. That is why I am here. That is why I openly write. I have had to good fortune to have gotten my little piece of paradise. Without considering the consequences I don’t know where I would be now. The future is as important as the now.
Yes it has happened to me.
I was in a serious car accident where I was hit by a train.
At the time I was just wearing a pair of panties under my drab clothes. I was taken to the hospital with multiple lacerations, a crushed foot and fractured ankle.
At the hospital they took all my clothes off except my panties and took me in for X-rays. There was this really cute nurse who did the X-rays and even though I was probably in shock and pain I had to control myself from getting excited by having her see my pretty panties.
She was very professional and didn’t say anything. I was OK short of my broken ankle and was released that night.
This happened back in collage and I lived in a dorm so I kept my favorite nightgown under the driver’s seat of my car. My buddy took me to the salvage yard a couple of days later where my car was. I was shocked to see my nightgown hanging out the door. I was on crutches and couldn’t do anything to retrieve it or even push it back under the seat.
I know my parents went to see the car and I wonder what my mother thought when she saw my nightgown hanging out the door. This nightgown was one I stole from her.
Lacy..
Great story, and how lucky were you in getting out of that smash….I think we are fortunate to have you here!!!
but the ” mystery nightgown ” did make me smile….I bet your mother thought ” so that’s where it went”!!!
Smiles, Grace x
Actually she caught me sleeping in it when I was just a kid. She didn’t say anything to me then but told my dad. That’s another story.
Ater that when the nightgown got old she put it in the rage bag. I’m sure she put it there knowing I would find it. I was always looking for rags when I washed my bike. Nylon does not make for good rag material so I’m sure it was put there as a secret gift for me.
So if she saw it, it only confirmed that I did take it and still was wearing it.
Got to love mothers!
Hi Grace,
I just came across this topic and the timing couldn’t have been more perfect! I have been wearing panties exclusively for over a year and never give it much thought. Well…. I went to the doctor for a respiratory problem and wouldn’t you know it! He decided that I needed a shot of antibiotics as well as a prescription. Of course the shot was in my butt so there’s my pretty flowered and lacy panties for all to see! (actually just the nurse) It really didn’t bother me but instead made me feel just a little naughty! Stephanie
Thanks…I’m glad you replied, I love these stories…
The best laid plans….haha xx
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Hi Grace.
As an update on underdressing since I initially posted here, scroll a bit and read my experience in the thread… “Caught Underdressing”… where I was caught wearing a bra with forms. Fun times! Many years ago when my kids were really young we were wrestling on the floor. I forgot I was wearing a pair of Hanes lace trim panties. Well the back of my pants must have slipped down exposing the lace trim waistband and my daughter yells “Daddy, you’re wearing mommy’s underwear!” She must have been 5 or 6. My son was a couple years older and my wife was in the room too. (Wife knew I underdressed at times and was ok with it). So of course I shot back, “your mom didn’t finish the laundry so I didn’t have a choice”. My wife just rolled her eyes and smirked. Son wasn’t even paying attention. lol
update from my last post here now that am fully transiton don’t worry about anything if say something happens. But do hope if had accident they be careful with the bra and panties and clothing no cutting off now.
Donna
Forgot how this post was so interesting and still is
I go out dressed all the time i just got back from shopping got a whole new oifit top,skirt,heels and purse so cute i am going to wear it out tonight Jessica
Hi jennifer hoping soon be able to get out and do some woman shopping. Loving the fact now be able to buy anything in my size for woman that fit woman. have a good time tonight Don’t tease the guys to much giggles.
Donna
I can answer this both personally and professionally. As a physician, we really don’t care. Panties, bras, jewelry, nail polish. It really doesn’t matter to anyone else but YOU. Girls, we’ve seen it all, and more than you could ever imagine. In 40 years of professional life (yes, even way back in the dark ages of acceptance) I’ve only seen or heard disparaging stories/remarks rarely. Rarely. Really.
Both personally and professionally, I can say unequivocally that the nurses are generally very empathetic, and vastly supportive. Think about it. They’re women. Gee, the very same emotionally mature planet inhabitants that we desire to emulate.
Personally, I’ve had really minimal issues, and thus exactly NO concerns, under dressing and being out as Dianna. I haven’t owned male under things for 32 years and 10 months. Going to the doctor, hospitals, procedures, it again only matters to YOU, as no one out there really cares…because it is REALLY common!
My favorite expression to folks is: I am going to die in a dress….I just hope it’s no time soon! And don’t smudge my lipstick, and don’t chip a nail.
My ONLY fear used to be the airport and air travel. I used to be concerned about toe rings, anklets and navel dangles. Geez, the light bulb went on when I figured out that the scanners’ sensitivity is set NOT to go off with those. Ummmm, and exactly how many ladies wear exactly those same things and don’t get patted down? AND! The very best part if we DO get found out by TSA: WE ARE A PROTECTED CLASS!!!!! Whoooooo hoooo, and life is good!!
Dee
Never worried about getting caught, the trill and joy I get wearing panties and bras, out weighs the risk of being seen
I’m a contractor who has underdressed for 40 plus years. Panties everyday and bras or camisoles when possible. My one precaution was to always have a pair of mens underwear stashed in my truck in case I ripped my pants or something similar. I don’t do that anymore.
through the years I’ve had two instances that stand out in my mind.
one time I was on a porch roof climbing another ladder to a higher section of the house when the ladder kicked out.
I feel to the porch roof with my legs through the ladder rungs. The pain was intense and at first I thought I may have broken both legs. One of the first things I though about was that I hand panties on. I laid on the roof for a few minutes and realized I was actually ok. Sore but ok .
years later I was renovating a customers vacation home in the mountains of NE Pa. It was very secluded . I worked there primarily by myself and would stay for the week. This gave me wonderful crossdressing opportunities which I took full advantage of. I had quit for the day and was enjoying a glass of wine wearing nothing but panties and a camisole when I realized I had left my phone in the crawl space. Instead of slipping my work clothes back on I just put my cute ballerina slippers on and went outside and into the crawl space. I finally found my phone and was working my way out when I heard a car coming up the driveway, oh no was it the owner stopping in to check on the progress?!! I heard the car door open and shut and figured I was caught big time!!! I had know idea what I was going to do. But a minute later the car started up again and backed down the driveway. Turns out it was the electric meter reader. Whew!!! After that I was a little more cautious but it was still one of the best summers of my crossdressing life!Natalie 💋💋💋💋
Hi Gen….
it seems most of you girls are quite ready to grin and bear it if the need arises…..wonderful….
….loving the piggies in their war paint xxx
So true Gen. My attitude is if I have to get ER treatment and have to display pretty panties just be professional and treat me. If you want to smile etc or chuckle have at it after I am treated. My sense is that gg providers are more inclined to find panties on a man nice and may even compliment them. 😊
HI Alison could have a medic bracelet on or neckless and have make sure to turn me to my best side. in case of accident.
Donna
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