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    • #680897
      Anonymous

      Hi ladies!

      One of the most absolutely wonderful things to do when we crossdress is to go out shopping! That’s because shopping as a woman takes on a completely different character than it does when shopping as a man. Men are expected to shop like they hunt — quickly. They know what they’re looking for, they find it, they buy it. Boom. Done. Like conquering a city, it’s something to be done, not something to be enjoyed.

      But shopping as a woman is more enjoyable and is done at a more relaxed pace. That’s because women in general tend to take their time when shopping, because they never know what they may come across that will look cute or fashionable or stylish. And of course, when you find those items, you have to try them on, right?

      That’s why I absolutely love getting all dressed and made up and then going out to the mall or to the shops to browse. Whether I find anything to buy or not, I have a grand time just enjoying being a woman out among all the other women. And if I happen to find something cute to try on, then the fun takes on an entire new level of thrill and excitement! That’s because I get to go into the inner sanctum, the area of the store is that completely off limits and taboo to men, the woman’s dressing room. I’m a woman among women now, so I get to go into that dressing room with all the other women and try on that new dress or skirt or blouse or whatever! And that ladies, is one of the most wonderful and exciting things we can do!

      In the women’s dressing room, that’s where we find out if we truly pass or not, and that’s where we also find out what it really feels like to be accepted by other women! We’re all in there together, in our lingerie, trying to cute clothes and dresses and such, admiring ourselves in the full length mirrors, preening a bit, looking over our shoulders to see how the item fits and looks from behind. And if we’re really lucky, another woman, a real woman, may even compliment us on our choice, of offer to help zip up a dress or something like that. And when that has happened to me, I almost faint from the sheer exhiliration of being accepted as a woman by other real women in the women’s dressing room!

      So of course, that got me to wondering…

      Have you ever tried on any women’s clothing in the women’s dressing room while you’ve been crossdressed as a woman?

      Hugs,

      Holly

    • #680905
      Caty Ryan
      Baroness

      No outer wear, but I loved going into a department store, and browsing amongst all the pretty bras, then taking 3 or 4 of them into the dressing room. Not long after that occured, I was personally fitted for a bra in an upscale lingerie shop….A loooonnngg…way from home.

      See

      https://www.crossdresserheaven.com/bra-shopping-my-cups-runneth-over/

      Happy dressing, (in the dressing rooms)

       

      Caty.

       

       

    • #680907

      Yes I have.

      Some here may think I shouldn’t have to but I ask permission first.
      I see myself and assume others see me as transgender. Not afraid or ashamed, just want to make sure the store staff don’t think I’m doing anything inappropriate. Once or twice the sales assistant has checked with the Manager, but I have never been refused.
      Gone are the bad old days when I would buy something in the hope it would fit, and be too embarrassed to take it back when it doesn’t fit.
      No harm in asking, what’s the worst that can happen, they say no and lose your business.
      B x

      • #680911

        In this new normal day and age Of Diversity gender bending acceptance, equality, and Inclusion, they can’t say NO! They would be libel for discrimination and gender/sexual bias and would have to allow it by law. The smartest more honest way is to be direct Up front and ask! Say” Look, I’m a CD, but also a potential customer whose money is as good as anyone, I want to do business here,” “Is it alright to privately go into your changing room and try this on?”

    • #680910

      I’m with you, been one that’s done those hundreds of times over 50 years, in the past 10 or so they got to know me as a regular (albeit CD) customer calling me by name in several specialty dress Shops, The Fashion Bug, and The Dress Barn, as well as my regular store manager young girl at the now defunct Payless Shoes. One of my greatest thrills was going in the formal/semi formal ladies’ section of Macy’s and looking at cocktail and dinner party gowns, I told the middle-aged saleswoman that my husband is a corporate Vice President, and we host many semi-formal cocktail parties’ and dinners, banquets a year at ‘our Country Club’. She offered to keep handing dress and gowns over the stall half door to try on, and when emerging with a couple rear zip ones, offered to zip up my back.
      WHAT A THRILLL!!!!!!!

      She didn’t have a CLUE, oh I love pretending to be and impersonating a woman in public,

      Ya Gotta DO IT!

      Public going Meghan

    • #680914

      Yes multiple times at Victoria’s Secret, Target and Goodwill, I love trying on Women’s Clothes at stores

      • #680948

        Many time en-femme trying in Goodwill, I’ve enjoyed Macys, JC Penney, and Sears, Lane Bryant

    • #680929

      Hi Holly,

      Many, many, many times at multiple stores and botiques.  You’ve captured the experience well.

      Alice

    • #680958

      Hi Holly,  Thanks for this interesting question.  If I’m shopping and I see something that I like, I try it on in the first open dressing room.  No problem, easy peasy.  Just don’t be rude and forget to rehang things that you don’t want.   Marg

    • #680961
      Rhonda Lee
      Baroness - Annual

      I agree. This is a special thrill!

      I usually get help from my SO in picking out and assessing outfits. But a couple of my favorite times include:

      – bra shopping with my daughter; I was tended to by a saleslady when she asked my grandson if he wanted to join his Mama. He loudly exclaimed for all in the store to hear: “That’s not my Mama; that’s my Papa!”

      – shopping at Dillards for a bathing suit in preparation for a cruise, my SO told the saleslady that the suit we sought was for me. The saleslady then escorted me to a private dressing room in another area of the store and brought outfit after outfit for me to try on, offering helpful comments on each.

      – at another Dillards, when shopping for a butt pad the saleslady not only assigned me a dressing room, but located the product vendor, who gave helpful tips on various types of shapewear garments.

      As to asking permission, store policies are not uniform. I was escorting a newbie and asked a Belks saleslady if it would be a problem using the ladies’ dressing room to try on bras. She thought it fine but later got reamed out by her boss, being told that men needed to use the men’s fitting rooms. I think it best to use stores which train their employees so as not to embarrass customers… stores like Macy’s, Lane Bryant, Dillards, Sophia, Dress Barn, and Victoria Secret, among others, are sensitive and can be relied upon to treat customers with dignity, avoiding negative experiences for staff or customers.

      Some have suggested it wise to call ahead if in doubt. I concur. By doing so I avoided a wig shop that frowned on male customers.  As a courtesy to staff and sensitivities of female clientele, not all of whom are comfortable undressing in an area where there are men, I feel it best to stay out of sight of other female shoppers to the extent feasible, and perhaps call ahead, especially if seeking a clerk’s attention for a bra fitting or such. Accomodations can often be made after hours or at least when a shop is not apt to be terribly busy. It is always wonderful to receive help or a compliment from another woman, but unless approached, I think it best to assume that a woman would prefer privacy and to respect that privilege to the extent feasible.

      • #680968

        Well put, play it store by store , their rules by rules, it’s their home turf and yes you are a customer but also a guest there and must consider other customers and staff sale people who may have never Seen a CD or know what we are. Play ball and fairly

    • #680972

      Edit: I misread the question and there’s no way to delete the post…

    • #680995
      Angela Booth
      Hostess

      Trying on clothes in a changing room was one of the taboos that I had difficulty with when I first started going out. I was always unsure until one day I was in a store looking at dresses and found one I liked. I was with my mother and as I was holding it up against me an assistant pointed me to the changing room and said, ‘Madam you can try it on, we do have a dressing room’ and the rest, they say, is history….I don’t bother to ask any more in the larger stores but may just ask in smaller boutiques, but no issues. Some bigger stores have an assistant who checks you in and I have not had any problems and it is nice when you occasionally engage with other women there. Shopping as a woman is a much more relaxed affair. I meet up with a friend for coffee and it is a ritual to visit a clothes shop nearby and have a good browse and chat with the staff. It’s a socialevent whether anything is bought or not.

      • #681015

        Yes I know the feeling well, some years ago after being a regular buying customer at both The Fashion Bug, Dress Barn and Payless Shoes they treated me as a normal female customer and greeted me and called me by name’ Meghan’ and were always helpful in selecting and ringing up my sales for me. They always even unlocked the dressing room doors and said, there you go Meghan’ go try them on’! I even took out a store charge card and felt just ‘glorious’ being one of the females shopping there. In Dress Barn they even had posting for hiring position as sales clerk and I kiddingly remarked I should apply to be a new ‘ female member of their staff’! The assistant manager said “ why not , it would be fun to have you work here!” I was floored- but declined feeling that would really be pushing the envelope, Find memory!

        • #681058
          Angela Booth
          Hostess

          Sometimes you need to push the envelope Meghan. A dear friend of mine offered me the chance to work in her shop to build my confidence. I did it for a while unpaid, and when one of her S.A’s left I was offered the paid role. I shredded the envelope…..

    • #681024

      I had bra fittings in an NYC salon and often try on clothing in my local women’s boutique. It’s an enjoyable experience and brings on an exuberant feeling. Truly makes me feel like the woman I want to be. Thank you for sharing this poll.

    • #681057

      Hi Holly, fun topic.  When out shopping with my wife for stephanie we have selected items to try on.  I love taking them back to the ladies changing room and trying them on.  A few times at Torrid stores I have put them on and had my wife and sales girl check them out.  A few  solo trips to the thrifts shop I found the courage to try some things on in the changing rooms but with no interaction with others.  The interaction with the sales folks and my wife make it more fun.

      • #681063

        Do you out shopping dressed with your wife or alone, or in drab?

        • #681070

          usually just underdressed in panties and bra

        • #681122

          Usually in drab, sadly. I’m getting braver, so I may pick a time and place and try it en femme soon. My wife would never agree to shop with me for women’s clothing.

    • #681062

      Thanks Holly for the post and to make the members aware it is not so taboo. I love shopping at the malls and have my favorite stores like Macys Dillards Pennys Target as big box stores where they have been educated on handling this. I take several pieces of clothing in at once to try on in the mirror and have even had sales clerks offer advice and get different sizes of things I am interested in. I was only deterred once from a small boutique but in general they accomadate since they are only looking for sales. I am comfortable with it and still enjoy the thrill.

    • #681094

      Holly, Once I went shopping for clothes en femme, I never wanted to go any other way! The sales girls were so very helpful, they helped me choose outfits that were flattering, stylish and the right colors for me. I also didn’t have to return things that didn’t fit or just didn’t look right. I had bra fittings to get just the right size and style, tried on shoes, lingerie and had a totally wonderful girly experience shopping en femme.
      Geniv

    • #681101

      I voted “other” because I entered the stores in drab (although “underdressed” – wearing a panty).

      This was in the days before I thought that I would ever attempt to go out into public spaces as a woman.

      Twice I went into smaller boutique shops (situated in malls), having spotted skirts in the display window from outside.

      In both instances, the lady shop assistants, though seemingly hesitant at first, were eventually completely co-operative, courteous and helpful ( on seeing, I suppose, that I was totally serious and sincere) and showed me to the changing room where I tried on the skirts. In both instances, I briefly opened the curtain and halfway stepped out, so that the assistants could view me. We proceeded to have a very helpful conversation (in both instances) about how well the skirt fit and suited me and possible alternative options.

      The third time was in a larger department store, where I tried on a dress.

      It was a fairly busy shopping day/hour and I had to wait in line with numerous women (holding the dress draped over my arm) while waiting for a cubicle to become available.

      Nobody seemed to mind or raise an eyebrow.

      Love,
      Katherine

      PS It might add context and perspective here however, to point out that I live in a major and cosmopolitan (port) city with a well-established history/culture of tolerance of alternative sexual identities and orientations.

      • #681138

        It’s my experience the big department stores don’t care as much,  they’ve probably seen  hundreds of guys try on dresses and it probably doesn’t  phase them plus at the end of the day it’s a sale for them if you’re polite and don’t arouse suspicions the women shopping don’t seam to either usually occupied doing the same thing we are, the problem is getting  past the  mindset people are judging you (if they do that’s their problem not mine) ,  I prefer to get stuff on In stores (not just for ladies stuff but my male  clothes too)  I’m a tall dude, I hate having to ship stuff back if it doesn’t  fit seams counterproductive to me…

    • #681105

      I would SO love to have a shopping friend like you! Not just for advice and suggestions, but just having a friend along would make the experience so much more comfortable!

      • #681116

        This has been quite a great and wonderful response to this question. Let’s all go shopping together. I love it!

        • #681185

          Wouldn’t that be a CDH ‘Girls Day out Dream’, an all-day shopping binge, lingerie, hosiery, shoes, dresses, makeup etc.- then a group dinner at a nice upscale restaurant, on to the theater or concert and finish up at a cocktail bar for drinks. Each bring 2-3 different outfits to keep changing into depending on the venture and time of day and where we’re going; but one outfit would HAVE to be a businesswoman, downtown secretary, executive nice suit or dress, with (gartered) hosiery and heel’s,

          Here’s wishing

          • #681345

            A girl’s day out…YES! How about us Northern California girls planning such an adventure?

          • #681390

            Would Love to as My fantasy Girls Day out but I live in Upstate NY on Lake Ontario, and so it’s not in the cards

          • #682195
            Rhonda Lee
            Baroness - Annual

            I regularly host dinners in upscale restaurants. I will give thought to making it a all day event which would indeed be a lot of fun!

          • #682711
            CelesteCD
            Lady

            Sign me up for that!!

          • #682740

            Just aDo It! You’ll feel like real woman especially if you’re totally underdressed with female lingerie and stockings. It’s a trip👍😉

      • #681343
        Anonymous

        Melissa, I agree. That would be sooo wonderful! It’s a shame we live so far apart.

        Hugs,

        Holly

        • #682271

          I know. Well, maybe we could shop online together? (Not sure how that could work haha).

    • #681128

      Yes, quite often. I prefer to buy my girly clothes in person and try them on.  Getting the advice of someone who comes with me, or a sales lady, is very helpful. I usually come out of the dressing room to model whatever I try on, and like stores that have a three way mirror so I can see how the outfit looks from different angles.

    • #681141

      Thanks for the post, Holly.

      I have never been alone and gone to try on clothes in a “female” changing room. I have been on my own and tried on female clothes in box stores like Walmart which have combined male/female changing rooms. Once in Walmart’s the sales lady was only interested in how many items I was taking in. No comment that I was taking in dresses, or bras. However I have often when shopping with my SO for clothes for her gone into the female changing room with her so that I can critique the items. Never had a comment or even a raised eyebrow from the sales ladies. So I would not hesitate to go into the female changing room if I was shopping alone again. Right now I have far too many female clothes; yes it is possible, at least for me. Need to donate to make more closet space and then shop, shop, shop. Best, Marlene.

    • #681142
      Gail Rich
      Lady

      I have tried on women’s clothes in a women’s dressing room, but I was not cross dressed at the time, although I was underdressed. I have done it quite a few times at Torrid, Lane Bryant and once at Dress Barn. I let the sales person I am shopping for myself, and ask if I may use the dressing room. I try to go on weekday mornings when the stores are relatively empty, but have been in the store (and dressing rooms) at the same time as other women.

    • #681148
      Fiona Black
      Baroness - Annual

      I am always en femme when I go shopping and have used the ladies dressing room countless times. Never had a problem. It is so exhilarating to strip down to bra & panties and try on different outfits or some lingerie.

    • #681174
      Rayna Carlian
      Duchess

      Sure! I use the closest fitting room to where I’m shopping.(ladies/Men’s sections)

      But, I will qualify that with this statement… If it’s SUPER busy and there’s lots of Mom’s with daughters in the fitting area… I avoid it. I know it shouldn’t matter, I’m just trying on clothing.

      I just don’t need some uptight mom to freak out and call 911 on me accusing me of perving on little girls.

      It’s just not worth the hassle…

      xoxo

      Rayna

    • #681296

      Communal dressing rooms are rare where I live in Australia.

      Typically there are individual stalls with either doors or curtains for privacy. This means you’re never changing with anyone else.

      On one occasion, there was a row of male stalls to the left, and female to the right. I was dressed but headed for the male stalls out of habit when the female attendant stopped me and said, “Madam, the ladies change rooms are the other way”.

      At least she though I passed!

      • #681337

        I think you may have misunderstood the answers here.  No where have I ever seen ‘communal ‘ changing rooms in this country, in any store, it’s not like in school gang showers after gym- A No! Every store anywhere ALWAYS has individual changing stalls for men’s and women’s depts , except good will, which is unisex, and you knock or look under the door to see if occupied

    • #681320

      I have never tried clothing in a store or anywhere else and to either buy by size or shop on-line – I must say that it’s something I have thought about so many times but am fearful it may end in tears..  I do go out en-femme quite often and as yet have had no issues but I have never been clothes shopping per se.  On 2 or 3 occasions I have had a bra-fitting and that was in a small independent shop close to me – it was a most wonderful experience as I was treated as a woman and given sound advice regarding foundation wear.

    • #681395

      Not something I would try to do as I am a very private person and cross dresser.  All my shopping is done in male mode, as I know what I wish to buy before going to the store, or online.

    • #681475
      Ellie Dee
      Duchess

      Clothes are too expensive to buy without trying. I always try on dresses and skirts etc as no sizes are ever exactly the same – especially between manufacturers.

      Never had a bad issue except once in a department store in Perth- I asked an elderly SA if I could try on a skirt and there were only female changing rooms and I was in DRAB mode. She wasnt too happy and told me to use the cubicle furthest away from everyone else.

      Apart from that – never had an issue – Oh sorry once more – In Portmans clothing shop I was trying a dress on and the SA asked if all the ladies were ok in there and I responded yes thanks but in my male voice. I heard these two girls outside my cubicle giggling so I went out and winked at them as I went passed and paid for my new dress.

       

      Hugs

      Ellie

    • #682194

      Most dressing rooms are unisex, so that being said, i have tried on items of women’s clothing while in male mode, would love to be dressed as a woman though, maybe someday. But on the plus side, i think the ladies at Maurices are getting used to seeing me, and I am sure they know I am a CD.

      • #682234

        Do what comes naturally and for the store and whatever you’re comfortable with; but if you are a public going CD there’s nothing more exhilarating than being en femme and trying women’s garments on in those unisex changing rooms👍

    • #682268

      Hi girls, yes I have many times, and always enfemme, the most recent time was this past Saturday. I also went into a costume shop looking for an outfit for Halloween. The girls at work want me to come as Snow White, the shop had several Snow White outfits in different sizes so I needed to try them on. I’m a trans woman, so always dressed. No questions asked, the sales person said, ” you can go into this dressing room M’aam” While there several other girls were waiting to try things, the sales person says, ” It won’t be long, she’ll be out soon.” Wonderful music to our ears, isn’t it girls?

      Hugs,

      Ms. Lauren M

    • #682270

      I’ve never had an issue-thus far. From the first day out en-femme, I used the women’s dressing room in department stores and changing room at a women’s only clothing stores. In fact when out in public, I use all facilities directed at women. I’m directed to the ladies room every time I ask where are the restrooms and invited into the ladies room by woman who I meet out socially.

      There have been 4 instances when a woman sales clerk has walked into my dressing room to check out “how it is going” at a women’s clothing store(WHBM, Ann Taylor, M Kors) when trying on an outfit! Been surprised each time this has occurred and very lucky I was not “exposed” at the time. I’m now listening for footsteps when trying on a dress, skirt or blouse.

    • #682434

      HHi All. I went into Soma and was very nervous. I wore guy slacks but a pretty blouse.
      At the time the store was empty so I asked the salesperson if she minded fitting me for a bra. She was happy to do so and came into the dressing room to measure me and then to bring back several bras to try on. About this time several women had come in to buy or brouse for bras. Since the dressing rooms were so small the salesperson brought me into an open area where the women could see me trying on bras. I WAS THRILLED to be seen my other women. One of them said I was brave to let the girl in me out. She then picked out a very feminine bra and asked me to try it on! I did look “girlie” in it and she said she wanted the same style for herself.
      She asked the salesperson to get her one and she disrobed in font of us to put it one. “we are all girls here” she said. This was my best day ever as Paula.xoxoxo Paula

      • #682546

        Holy Cow! That beats all👍😉Imagine standing next to a real GG who disrobed and bared her breasts ( and empathetic heart ❤️) to you to ‘ show all’ and you being the influencing factor  for her to select the same bra☺️ After you were both fitted you should have left them on and taken her out to lunch or coffee snd had girly ‘chit Chat’😀

        • #682968

          Hi Meghan. Yes,I did see her again. I was having lunch in the mall sandwich
          shop and she came over to me and asked to join me. Of course I said yes and we had what was a typical chat about what/why I was dressing as a woman. She wanted to know if I saw myself as a real woman; was I gay; and did I ever go out fully dressed. LOL YES I said
          that when dressed I did feel I was fully female. Gay? I said no but I’m not sure? When dressed since I feel like a woman I have had thoughts about being with a man (I laughed and said I am still a virgin in that regard), but I also am still very attracted to women. Then we talked fashion make up shopping….the usual girl stuff.
          It was a very affirming discussion.

          • #683007

            I do hope you link up with her again and exchange numbers and emails. She could be your best ‘ Real Girlfriend’ you ever had, and a mentor, advisor but hopefully someday be a female companion that you can both go out with together , shopping, coffee or lunch  or take in a movie or concert, Please keep up updated as this is a most fascinating story Paula

            P.S.where you in male drab when she saw you in the mall? It’s overdue for her to see you fully dressed Paula-DO IT👍😉

    • #682811
      Michelle Nelson
      Baroness

      Yes I have and it was wonderful.

      I got dressed up as a woman one day and went down to the mall. I went to a ladies clothing store at the mall. I picked out a few outfits and the sales girl showed me to a room.

      I went in and tried on the outfits. Posing in the mirror and loving the way I looked.

      Next to me I heard the sales girl assisting another woman. She was helping her with finding the right size bra.

      At the point it really hit me what was happening. This woman probably wouldn’t be doing this if she knew there was a man next to her in another stall. But to her I wasn’t a man I was a woman, a fellow woman also trying on women’s clothing.

      I felt like a real woman right then. Like I’d been met into the sister hood. I came out and bought a dress and a top.

      Everyone who I interacted with saw me as a woman. This is one of the most feminine experiences I’ve had.

      • #682880

        Doesn’t it feel great? Been doing that for  40+ years! 😉👍

    • #682987
      J J
      Lady

      I have been trying on things in the ladies changing rooms for quite a few years now. I have done it fully dressed as a male and partially or fully en femme, and have never had an issue other then occasionally having to use the men’s changing room if dressed male. I do prefer these days to shop en femme, it just improves the whole shopping experience.

    • #683902

      I try on women clothes in man mode .. its too excinting..!!!

    • #688761

      Today was a big yes.  Went to mall and visited Torrid.  The salesperson was fabulous.  She asked if I needed help in finding anything.  I told her I was looking at corsettes and dresses.  She said she would be with me when she finished with the customer.  Whe finished, she showed me the items that I was looking for.  We selected a few items and we went to dressing area.  When I went in room, she asked me my name.  I replied Karynn.  When getting into corsette and putting on my top to see how it looked, she came back and asked how it was going.  I noticed it really accentuated the cleaveage and seemed to pull tummy in a bit.  I stepped out of room and she said, well it brought out the girls more.  We both giggled and said it is a smoother look.  She then said walk back to those mirrors and you can get all angle looks.  I did and went back to dressing room and noticed she had my name on door.  It was really cool.  Afterwards, I went out and we chatted for a bit about girl talk.  What a great day.

    • #688854

      Yes and many times, maybe 100 +.

      It is absolutely my preferred way when buying dresses, skirts and jeans. As my time is limited I need to know if something looks Great On Me (IMO) and if it fits as I don’t want the hassle of returning online purchases. I have even had store seamstresses Fit and Measure a few dresses to be taken in at the waist.

      Sandy

    • #688860
      Anonymous
      Lady

      Hi Holly
      I was on a journey home from attending a meeting and the weather had warned up from when I left home. I had travelled to the meeting in a hybrid format in that I was wearing my guy suit but with femme underwear, tights, boobs and shoes ( had intended to remove boobs and change shoes before going into meeting ).
      In my hybrid state I decided to do some quick shopping so I could wear something cooler for journey home. Selected two tops and a skirt from the sale racks, paid for them and then went into a changing room to decide which top to immediately wear and emerged totally en femme with my shirt, tie, and suit in a carrier bag.
      Rachel

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