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    • #467877
      Anonymous

      Hello Ladies, I am curious if you had a choice of going out EnFemme,would you feel more comfortable with another group of CD friends. Or would you prefer to be out with the regular ladies.
      I myself would enjoy them both, but would feel more comfortable Enfemme with others like myself. This could be a confidence thing i am not sure Poll attached please share your comments too. 💋SHANNON💋

    • #467887

      Interesting question. I had to think for a minute. I want regular ggs. Purely as there is a group of gals I can’t wait to go with at work. I think a trip to Manchester is definitely on a few ggs minds and I can’t wait to join them. I think I was one of the first to float the idea.

    • #467889

      I don’t think it really matters to me.  I’ve gone out to parties at my friend’s home.  She is a GG who ran a transformation business.  While a a majority of the people were CD or TG, there were sometimes a couple of men or women there too who were accepting of the community.  Sometimes  we would go for outings outside her home too.

      My friend would often say that there is safety in numbers.  While I agree, you are also more likely to be read when out in numbers (if out in public) too.  If there are a lot of CD/TG folks about, someone will do something (a gesture or mannerism) that is more typically masculine, drawing people’s eyes to the group for closer inspection.

      This isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but it is something you should be aware of.  A number of years ago my friend put on a play in a hotel conference room.  After rehearsal, we went out to dinner before the performance.  We left dinner on our own to make it back to the hotel.  As I was leaving, there were people waiting for the restaurant.  As I was walking out with others still at the table, I overheard an elderly woman tell her friend, “Do you see that table of ladies over there?  I don’t think they’re women.  I think they’re men.”  There was no malice in her statement, only a sense of curiosity.  I wasn’t there long enough to hear her friend’s reaction.

      I enjoy going out with other CD/TG folk because I have become friends with them, having gotten to know them from the parties I attended.  But going out with cis folk (whether women or men or both) means acceptance, which gives me a different feeling.  I would say only slightly I have a preference for CD/TG people, but I suspect it is because I have become friends with them.

    • #467895

      CIS ladies would mean acceptance into the community of women. I like that.

      Lee Ann

    • #467901

      Great question Shannon

      I would be happier with a night out with other CD girls. I would feel more comfortable around other CD girls, although it is only during my thickest of pink fogs I could ever image going out socialising En-Femme.

      Jen

    • #467910

      There needs to be a third option as I have no preference.  My criteria is about character, and not as described.

      MacKenzie Alexandra

    • #467915

      Sultry Shannon…

      Definitely with other women! Have done so before and am doing so with increasing regularity! Last time it was with five other women and one guy…
      That is a level of acceptance and affirmation that cannot be ignored! Anyways, I don’t know any CDers in my city. Would I want to? Don’t know… probably not.

      Polly 💋💋💋

    • #467939
      Jill
      Lady

      I vote for option 3 I just want to go out with friend CD or GG.  I just love to be out enfemme!

       

    • #467942
      Jane Don
      Lady

      I’ve never had the opportunity to go out with other Gurls– Have been out with my wife & her female friends a # of times without problems-

    • #467966
      Anonymous

      Got to say both CDs and Cis ladies have their charms. I normally go out to lunch with other CDers. But I have had many great times on the town and in homes of real women.

      Needed a ” Both” vote.

      Dr. T.J.

    • #467971

      I definitely prefer going out with other trans women and/or CDs. A few summers back, I’d put together a gathering for a few girls at a nice hotel. after a few hours of drinks (we had our own volunteer bartender), we decided to go clubbing in DC. As we were all pretty buzzed, our bartender ordered an Uber x, and away the five or six of us went. When we got to Ziegfeld’s/Secrets, the party was in full swing. Our group danced the night away. Bartender dude played security for our purses/drinks, so the night remained carefree. Can’t imagine having the same level of fun with other mix of people.

    • #467972
      Susan Sue
      Duchess

      I also would enjoy being out with both CD girls and regular ladies. I have only been out with my wife and we have had a lot of fun. I think it would be great to be able to go out with CD girls.

    • #467985

      I enjoy both myself also

    • #468074
      Anonymous

      Hi Shannon.

      I would prefer mixed…

      CDs so we could meet and compare…. everything…

      and regular girls to keep us on our toes and well advised…

      best of both worlds!!!!

      Grace ❤️

    • #468078

      Both are appealing but I chose gg since I could see and talk about how close I came to being looked as a gg gf

    • #468183

      Would like both.

    • #468242
      Anonymous

      Hi Shannon i would feel a lot safer being out with other C/dressers at first, at least till I’m confident enough to be out there as Rozalyne, if i could be accepted by other people then it wouldn’t bother me to actually be in a mixed group,

      Hugs Rozalyne x

    • #468250
      Ellie Hope
      Baroness

      I have been out with other CDs only a couple times and it was wonderful. These were recent acquaintances at a CD get together. There was definitely a sense of comraderie amongst us.

      Also been with some GG friends once and that was really nice also, especially since they made me feel welcome. In that case, I had known these ladies for some time, so that surely helped.

      I will gladly accept the next opportunity to do either.

    • #468287
      Anonymous

      Hi Shannon. Nice topic, thanks!

      I guess that the answer depends a lot of the circumstances. Been out both with cis-female friends and with cd/tg friends. Both types of outings can be a lot of fun!

      Say the outing was to a mainstream bar or club. Would likely not feel at easy with cis-femal friends because they would likely want to interact with guys, dance, etc. I would definitely not be up for that. In a similar scenario I have enjoyed being out with cd/tg friends. (Believe it or not, I have some! Haha!)

      But dinner and a movie or coffee or wine and shopping, I have found it more enjoyable with cf friends!

      Gabriela

    • #468291

      I enjoy going out with both groups and have on several occasions.   But I have also gone with mixed CD/GG, and CD/male groups with several of each sub group.

      The most relaxing was the CD only group, while the group with GG’s was definitely the most obnoxious and loudest, we were attending a Chippendales show that night.

      PaulaF

      • This reply was modified 3 years ago by Paula F.
    • #468360
      Anonymous

      I have always felt comfortable in groups of women when in guy mode; Bettylou has never had the opportunity to be in any groups of any kind, but dying to be part of a CD group.

    • #468401

      I would love to go out with a group of like minded gals. I would also enjoy going out with “regular” gals who were open minded enough to watch my back and include me. I think being out with like minded gals would be so much fun because of the shared experience, fears, hopes, and dreams. I have been invited to go out with a couple of “regular” gals for a night out once our restrictions are lifted and fully intend to take them up on it.

    • #468460

      Interesting poll but I did not vote-Why?

      I think because going with people whether trans or GG women makes no difference to me. A friend is a friend.

      In my situation it’s more often with those in the trams world but I think this has more to do with the fact I know so many. I have done things with couples and there family and many times when out solo I may end up at a club with a m/f couple or group of friends-more often women that I randomly meet.

      Out is out, fun is fun!

       

      Sandy

      • #468879
        Anonymous

        Hey Sandy C.

        Looking forward to our next outing SOON!!

        LOVE ‘ YA….

        Dr.T.J.

    • #468806

      I didn’t vote. I enjoy being out by myself. If I had to choose one, it would be with other gurls like I am. In fact the only one who knows for sure is a girl that crossdresses who I confided in, while I was on vacation. She was totally surprised when I told her that I’m a crossdresser. She said that she would never had guessed, if I hadn’t told her. We discussed our thoughts on crossdressing and both agreeded that it’s more accepted now that it used to be. There’s even venues like CDH that are just for crossdressers like us. Before this pandemic I had been looking at a cruise from Tampa Florida that was especially for crossdressers and their significant others. But the pandemic happened and that ended that I was looking forward to being with a group of crossdressers and being able to find out their views on this lifestyle. I think that it would have been interesting to sail as a female for the entire time on the cruise. Maybe it will still happen after this pandemic allows the cruise lines to start up again. I can only hope that it gets back to the way it used to be. Keeping my fingers crossed

      Janine

       

       

       

      • #468986

        A CD only cruise? Wow. Please post if you find another one, thanks. Marlene.

    • #468818

      I’ve gone out by myself mainly, but almost always been invited to join various groups, CDs, GGs, mixed groups of all sorts of people – and made some wonderful friends in the process.

      I don’t have a preference – I feel comfortable with anyone who feels comfortable with me, regardless of appearance or anything else.

      I can’t help it… I just love people (platonically – I am married!).

      Love Laura

    • #468949

      I like both groups depending on what we are doing.  I am completely at ease though when I am out with my gg friends for the feeling of total acceptance and mindset. I have a feeling that I am just one of them enjoying everything that women do and talk about

      • #468975
        Yael Lyons
        Duchess

        That is what I would love.

        • #469040
          Anonymous

          Yael…looking so forward meeting with you 11 April, as we have arranged!

          Can’t wait to start our journey…

          Love, Dr. T.J.

    • #469203
      Amy Myers
      Baroness

      I voted to be out with other CD’s, but honestly I’ll go out with anyone right now, if I could!

      However, more seriously, when we able to go out there was a group of us CD’s along with a number of our wives who would meet for dinner a couple of times a month. So that was a mix of CD’s, GG’s, and a few full TG’s as well. I suppose the tables look like a large group of women.

      Hopefully those time will be returning.

      Amy

    • #469208
      Cece X
      Lady

      Wow, the responders to this question demonstrate such courage and confidence. I am encouraged.

      I definitely am non-passing, as I maintain a goatee, so I would be afraid to be out in the general public whether with a group or even worse be out alone. I would very much like the opportunity to go somewhere in man drab and once I arrive be able to change into femme wear and hang privately with a group of other passing and non-passing CDs.

      I understand that pre-Covid there was a group here in New York City that met privately for Wednesday dinners. If it resumes, hopefully I would be welcome there even with my facial hair and bushy eyebrows. I have also thought about trying to start a social group of passing and non-passing CDs. Unfortunately, the two CDs I have met so far were more interested in taking off their clothes than wearing them. That was a bummer for me.

      • #469338

        Hey, honey – cross dressing isn’t female impersonation, it’s all about the realness.

        If you want a goatee/dress look, there’s no reason why not.

        Do your own thing, lovely!

        Love Laura

    • #469457
      Anonymous

      I love ladies chlothing better than men’s chlothing

      • #469480

        Especially the undies Samantha😊

        • #469704
          Anonymous

          Honey, see my response above to Samantha. Just days ago, I wouldn’t have paid your suggestion much attention. Thursday, I picked up a 5-pack of (predominately) cotton bikini underwear and I am NOT going back! They are so suh – weet! 💋

      • #469702
        Anonymous

        Samantha, this is more of a poll dance than a poll question 😂! I just picked up a sleeve of Sweet Treasures (predominately) cotton bikini panties and have officially worn my final pair of men’s underwear! 💋

        • #470292
          Martina Klarc
          Duchess

          I am also “phasing out” mens underwear, cotton granny panties for everyday and of course special panties for special occasions.

          • #470484
            Anonymous

            Honey, I will have to be desperate to switch back! These undies are so comfy, it feels like I have nothing on!!

            Another reason to LOVE BEING A GIRL!! 💋💋

          • #662045

            I have repeatedly been close to making that decision over the last two years or longer. However, my professional/social/family circumstances compel me to preserve my male persona and I am haunted by a fear of say, in an emergency situation, being found to be not completely clothed in the attire of the social consensus of “maleness”.

    • #469523
      MelanieElizabeth
      Ambassador

      I would love to find a group of fellow cds to go out with. It would be nice to have others to socialize with in person. Trade tips and stories with each other would be so much fun. Maybe after the COVID thing is over.

    • #469560

      That would be wonderful couldn’t imagine not being with girls like me

    • #469570

      I voted with other CDers. I belong to two CD/TG support groups in my area. One of the groups has social outings on different nights each week. I had planned to join the Thursday night outing, but then COVID stopped all outings. There are a couple of CDers whose wives also attend, so I will also be interacting with GGs. I’m okay with this as I know they will accept me.

    • #469730

      How about regular ladies with CD friends, among the bass/baritone hum would be the ladies tinkle of laughter as we swap beauty tips 🙂

      Sal x

    • #470573
      Anonymous

      Love to have a good girly night out en femme with other CDers – the chat should be interesting!

      Diana

       

    • #661625
      Jasmine
      Lady

      It’s kind of a combination for me because I’ve gone out with my ex-girlfriend and a couple of her friends who knew and that was wonderful we had a great time and then another occasion I’ve gone out with a couple of other crossdressers also had a great time and then I’ve had occasions where it’s been a mixed group crossdressers women and men and the only thing I’ve ever asked from anybody that I hang with you respect me and I respect you so really it doesn’t matter to me as long as we’re friends and we’re respectful of each other we can hang

    • #661796
      Patty Phose
      Duchess

      I have met and socialized and partied with other CD’s or what ever we were called back then since I was 18. Some of the parties were really ridiculous and really over the top, but most of my interactions with other girls was a lot of fun.

      I’m totally fine with being out with regular ladies too. I know it’s silly stupid and shallow but I get such a thrill out of being femme, showing off my legs in my pantyhose, heels and short dress and being out as one of the girls.

    • #661801
      Anonymous
      Lady

      I’ve been out with other CD’s and had a great time but would prefer going out with a group of cis girls because being accepted and treated equally by them would be wonderful validation. I could observe and learn their movements and attitudes as just one of the girls. Girls just want to have fun!

    • #661913

      Hi girls, I think both situations would be fun, but I’m left with the option of going out with other CD in femme, being able to go out and have a girl’s day with others who share this wonderful and beautiful lifestyle would be fantastic, just amazing, plus without It would certainly be a perfect opportunity to develop self-confidence in the safety of the group, the truth is that it is something that I hope to be able to do one day,
      greetings to all

    • #662070
      Anonymous

      I’ve not met another crossdresser in the few times I’ve been out. Albeit, I have met several transgender and straight-up gays and lesbians (pardon the pun). That’s probably because I tend to go to gay and/or lesbian bars where I’m certain I’d be more accepted, rather than “normal” establishments.

      That being said, it would also be nice to have a core group of cisgendered female friends, as well as a bunch of CD and trans friends, so I could go with whomever to wherever I wanted to while en femme, as long as acceptance was universal. A girl can dream.

      BTW, I voted “a group of CDs”

    • #662305
      Roberta Broussard
      Duchess - Annual

      Regularly I might prefer other CD’s but on occasion I would like to go out with GG’s. I have so much to learn and hanging out with the professors would greatly enhance my learning curve.

    • #662311

      I feel more secure and safe visiting public venues with another CD/Trans person. But being out on a date with a guy who knows my identity and accepts me as a woman is even better.

    • #662601

      I guess it depends on where I want to go to. I definitely enjoy the company of other CDs in places I know to be open to us. On the other hand for shopping trips to a mall or just the city I would prefer the company of  a GG. To take advantage of their knowledge of female stuff and to let them do the talks.

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