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If ya know what I mean? Because I absolutely without hesitation will deploy the social rights of women to wear whatever they want, combined with the rights of men to go in public without a shirt on.
And those two things combined means it will be perfectly fine to walk in to most places with just my jean shorts on, heels, and no top. Hmmmmmmmm… looking forward to trying this out!!!!
Go for it Carmen. I think most all of us want real breasts if we could have them. They will develop slowly and you can probably get away shirtless in male mode for a while but if the HRT works well you won’t be able to go around like that in most places without being attacked or arrested. You know HRT makes changes you can’t reverse easily but if thats what you want then you already have a good start in feminine looks. You probably know HRT shrinks some parts too don’t you? Good luck sweetie!
All that you said are very much in serious consideration. Thank you 🙂
Females… want full equity, and I will fight for them. Trans want to have equal rights with all genders as well, and I will fight for it. Straight men, well, they just wanna see boobs all over the place and don’t really care about equal rights… So, it is what it is!
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You are a very interesting person. Please keep us informed in your single fight for bare chested women and mens rights. You go girl!
Okay, more serious is you brought up the main discussion points that’s at the heart of this post. What defines “real breasts” in society (I’m not talking about surgical, I’m talking about when is it defined a “woman’s breast”, and when is it defined a “man’s breast”.
Is it the size? The shape? Small? Large? The ability to breastfeed? Is it defined by one’s genitals? Can the definition of “breasts” be legally defined by one’s use of HRT? That’s really the point of this post. While I lightheartedly wrote my post, it isn’t about sex.
Hey Carmen. Iirc, in 2015 the law was passed in Canada that essentially ‘anywhere a man can go topless in public, so can a woman’. We try to keep the extreme conservatives under control, and I do love the equality of it all.
You just never see it, simply out of fear for triggering a whacko. There are far too many pigs out there.
But I would love to be able to do it!!
Yup, I sure do know what you mean!
I will NOT go topless in any public place anymore. I really could get hassled by law enforcement. Besides, everyone is taking videos nowadays and I don’t want to end up on YouTube.
I appreciate the legal waters you’re testing, but please be careful.
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Yeah, totally understand.
As of right now, it’s just a thought all mixed in with all the other things I think about. In reality, it will probably be a long while before I can even consider such a thing. I’m so flat chested now that I’m almost concave. 🤣
I mean, just to get the illusion of cleavage now I’m literally trying to pull the skin on my lats to the center of my chest…. Sheesh!!!!!
Little did that guy know he’s salivating over my darn back skin. 😂
Ooookay Carmen, Maybe I’m getting this wrong but it scares me. As an Intersex Person with a feminine body, I’ve had some of the experiences that you speak of. For me, for the most part they were definitely not fun. Some situations were actually dangerous. Comments here from others about wackos, pigs, hassled and bizarre responses all ring true to me. As a scientist I think that this experiment might be like the ex-vulcanologists that took samples too close to the lava flow. Please be very careful! A feminine body can be like a double edged sword. Marg
Absolutely agree with you. I’m very into personal safety!!
These are just thoughts I’m mulling over right now… Thinking out loud. It’ll be a LONG while before I can even attempt something like this, and who knows if I’ll ever look feminine in the chest area without my pushup bra ànd body glue!!!!
It more important than the scenario I speak of, is really the underlying questions of breasts in relation to man/woman. I mean really, in the eyes of law and society, they should be exactly the same. What exactly identifies “breasts” to be considered male breasts or female breasts, especially as it relates to transgender persons.
If a cis man, presenting as cis decides to get breast implants, does that now exclude him from going shirtless in the eyes of any local laws and ordinances?
If a woman has small breasts, or no breasts, if she doesn’t have a shirt on, is she still considered to be indecent?
Im such an overthinker 🤣
Excellent and valid arguments which just flag up our laws are mainly to stop male arousal at the sight of female breasts. Yet the west looks down on cultures that make women cover up
At least in the US, you won’t get stoned to death for showing your body🇺🇸
Or they might, this is FL and we ALL carry! Sorry will the asshole be that ever decides that I should be the victim of their hate, I guess if you can be sorry while you are dead! Afraid to pull the trigger I am not, dead people NEVER have their day in court so better them than me. But on that note, I’m leaving my shirt on!
I’m sure you can see, my whole entire experience is to grow as a person and knowledge. While I seem “sexual”, I stated before that this experience has nothing to do with sex. I’m trying to get a deeper understanding of gender and how it correlates to public perception and/or actual law.
For example, right now, in drab mode, I get called ma’am or sir at first sight. So if there is a law of indecent exposure for women to go topless in public, then am I being illegal 50 percent of the time I leave my shirt off? And what defines that? Sorry, I have insatiable curiosity of everything lmao!!!!!
Agreed. Gender markers are what I’m really trying to figure out. I’ve seen some larger men in my area go topless who have breasts virtually indistinguishable to a woman’s physically. But nobody bags an eye. But what if that person was a woman, with the exact same body… would everybody be like omg, breasts, illegal, call the cops.
So then, is a gender markers the weight of a person? I mean, what if that person wore a wig. Would it then be “illegal”????
So then if it is based on the wig, then are wigs a gender markers in the eyes of law?????
Soanh darn question in my head. I’d rather put my money where my mouth is and get some real answers.
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