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    Seen article recently from WebMD saying that the sex of a person should be left blank from the normal Male or Female.

     

    Think would this be a good idea or should be a labeled there for M or F

    Sorry everyone seems like unable to create a poll so simple yes or no comment be good also welcome to comment and thoughts also.

     

    Donna

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      Dee Nash
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      I think it should be the sex at birth but should be able to change it when your older x

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      Phoebe Smyth
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      Not exactly sure what’s mean hon.

      Are you asking if we should change it, leave it the same or open?

      I’d like to change mine but the state I was born it won’t allow it. Which I think is wrong as I haven’t lived there since I was one and was only born there because my dad was stationed there temporarily for training.

       

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      • #581345
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        By asking my local office to do all this and by researching online I will be allowed to change everything to my fem Name even birth cert. All have to do is show the letter my Dr did that shows had the surgery then of course pay the fees.

        Donna

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          Phoebe Smyth
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          I’m glad so many have that option. It must give tremendous peace of mind.

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            could be also just the luck of being a state that will honour this choice. believe all states should have the right to do.

            Donna

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      It’s amazing that just a simple thing like “M” or “F” can divide families and communities.

      But it can go ohh so deep and divided us!

      I fear for so many young school aged children and especially teenagers in high school for being vilified just because in their hearts they are not what they want to be; that they can’t express their true nature and use the bathroom of their choice.

      Starbucks got it right with their bathrooms. Each door has M/F on it so anyone can use it, at least here in Canada, and I think in the US too (if memory serves as me and my SO drove from Ontario to the wonderful Carolinas a couple of years ago).

      When my children were in kindergarten each class had their own bathroom and any child could use it, boy or girl. The one and only sign on the door read, “Washroom”. They learned at an early age to respect someone’s privacy. It’s always the adults who screw it up for the kids with their antiquated morality!

      Most young people I know don’t give a darn about the M/F designation.

      Going out for a walk now…

      xo Barb

       

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        Thankfully went to old school. growing up. Also seen many schools are kinda forcing things on kids let them decide what they want later in life. The ones feeling certain way they can do what it takes. But the others that little confused on things give them room to think. Don’t tell them this is the way. and force gender idienty on a young child.

        Just glad live in a state all need is a letter of proof and the fee

        Donna

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      Sylvia
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      Dear Donna ,

      At birth it should say : Sex at birth : Male or Female.

      When the person becomes an adult and want’s to change it ,
      I think it should be made possible to do that without to many problems !

      Love Sylvia.

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        Oh I agree Sylvia  in my state just needing a letter showing had the bottom surgery done and pay a fee. Know posted some link where show the states and what required to do. Some states say no way most say able.

        Donna

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      I may be out of sorts here but I believe the child should be listed as it’s birth gender. Later if that child decides to change their gender I am all for them and so should everyone else.

      Hugs, Liara

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        How does one determine the gender of a newborn baby?  Moreover, why would that need to be on a Birth Certificate?

        Did you mean sex?

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          yes sex what meant

          Donna

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      Celeste Starre
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      I would say no and add one more thought. If a baby is born with ambiguous genitalia it should be left alone until the child is old enough to determine gender. In the past it’s been up to the parents and doctor and they have a 50% chance of getting it wrong.

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      I want to say pick one but I’m not sure. Maybe if it was XX or XY not M or F…so controversial…

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      I’m very much old school. I believe a child’s identity should be on a birth certificate. Even though I enjoy wearing female clothing, I’ll always class myself as male.
      Elizabeth

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      Nevermind

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      In the identification process (which this is all about), sex is the primary division among all species; chosen by a casual look at the “plumbing”. Mistakes do rarely occur, but until recently, the label was permanent. All other divisions except ethnicity: age,height and weight are variable and cannot be part of a permanent record. As a “permanent” identifier, sex is properly included on a birth certificate.

      Bettylou

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        Hi Bettylou say have the plumbing at the end of year would it be possible to change my sex on my birth cert to my sex now or does it have to be left how it is now.  Guess can prove it to them have the right plumbing for a woman. minus some of the key parts Like ovaries. and all.

        Donna

         

        thank I found my answer here gives all the states and requirements to change it or not.

        Changing Gender on a Birth Certificate (totallegal.com)

         

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          Hi Donna,

          The laws/rules are all about the “plumbing” itself, not its functionality. Logic dictates a change in your ID documents, but laws are often in defiance of logic. And your birth certificate remains correct: you were a male at birth, and some jurisdictions could use this as an argument against changing the document. Who knows?

          Hugs,
          Bettylou

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            Was looking on that site and was saying if had a letter or proof of sex resignment surgery could be changed. IDK guess need to ask my DR about it.  May be alot of red tape. But seems possible.

            Donna

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      Stephanie Bass
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      Seems like you are female since birth in your heart so there you go female it is ..

      Stephanie bass

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        Once I am done with the transition and start doing all my Id’s and all going to find out about getting my birth cert changed if possible.

        Donna

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        Once I am done with the transition and start doing all my Id’s and all going to find out about getting my birth cert changed if possible.

        Donna

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      Maybe they should just put T.B.C. until the individual makes a decision.

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      First off, the question on the birth certificate is sex, not gender.  Gender, being behaviors, doesn’t develop immediately.  It is how the child responds to gendered cues from society that determines their gender.

      Second, for most people, the sex is obvious.  Yes, there are cases where the chromosomes aren’t either XX or XY, or have (possibly partial) two sets of genetils, or the body doesn’t respond to the sex hormones.  But these are a very small number.  Also, most people are cis, and their gender matches their sex.

      I don’t think leaving it out is a good idea.

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        what was said the child sex not his or her or gender.

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      What they ought to do, is make it easier and /or cheaper to change or revise legal documents later.

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        Absolutely!

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        Totally agree Samantha so much red tape envolved.

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      Lol, they don’t care what’s under your skirt.  Why would they?  There is no law that says only people with vaginas can be named Donna, haha.  I changed my name years before that, as soon as I went fulltime.

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      Liara Wolfe
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      Donna I think your great. You go girl.

      Hugs, Liara

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      Thank you Liara thank the same towards you to.

      Donna

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      Yes a racket but if wanting to do it and makes you feel better in the end then I say do it. if can. Know going to get it done once surgery is done and well enough to start filing. If have to they can peek lol.

      Donna

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