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    • #651503
      Anonymous
      Lady

      Interesting article about the growing acceptance of LGBTQ in society…

      https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/06/10/transgender-nonbinary-more-young-adults-come-out-awareness-grows/7535217001/

      “Young adults were also more likely to be familiar with terms such as nonbinary or gender-fluid, the survey found, with 42% of those under 30 saying they’d heard a lot about the concept compared to 31% of people 30 to 49, 20% of those 50 to 64 and 12% of people 65 and older.”

      “More than 150 anti-trans bills, mostly restricting trans girls’ participation in sports and trans accessibility to bathrooms, have been introduced in 2022, according to the American Civil Liberties Union.”

      “According to the Pew survey, 5.1% of adults under 30 identify as trans or nonbinary. Among adults aged 30 to 49, the rate was 1.6%, and for those 50 and older, 0.3%.”

      Among the general population, 44% of adults said they know someone who is transgender, up from 37% in 2017. More than a quarter, or 27%, said they had a trans friend, while about 1 in 10, or 9%, said they know a trans person who is not yet an adult.

    • #651505

      Thanks for posting this Michelle.  It is really good to see the numbers.  It helps to put some things that I was concerned about into perspective.      Marg

    • #651506

      I really think a lot of those terms are made up nonsense and young people go along with it all because it is trendy. I don’t get why people are in such a big hurry to stick a label on themselves. Just live your life as you choose and don’t worry about all that gender studies nonsense.

       

      • #651517

        I was having a conversation along these lines earlier today. I don’t see the need to be pigeon-holed into these groups to to make things tidier for administration. I don’t see myself as anything but me, irrespective of what I wear. If I howl at the moon, it doesn’t make me a wolf so perhaps there is just a little too much formality integrated into these labels.

        • #651518

           

          People in the LGBT community can be the most closed minded people on earth. Once they “identify” as something they rigidly follow “the rules” of how they must behave to fit into that group.

          These days half the terms we used to use for each other are now seen as offensive. People are way too easily offended and should learn to give as good as they get. If any group should want freedom of speech it is LGBT people. Now many want it to be a hate crime to use the wrong “pro nouns”.

          Be careful when you silence those who hate you because you may be next to be silenced.

          Things really were better 25 years ago.

           

      • #651524
        Stevie Steiner
        Managing Ambassador

        I do agree that labels separate us into groups, and different groups invariably have their own agendas.  With many people there seems to be an attitude that the only way to look good or succeed is for others to fail, so they attack others.  That sucks.  Problem is we need language and words to communicate with each other and spread understanding, and labels are inevitable… I always am willing to “enlighten” those who care to learn, but labels are the only way they can wrap there head around the concepts at times.  Means having patience educating the ignorant masses.   We’re all missionaries in a way, trying to spread the word to those willing to hear.  And the entire community should be united in this.

        Stevie

        • #651538

           

          If people want to limit themselves that’s their business but leave me out of it. 25 years ago nobody ever heard of “Non Binary”. It is invented term and people being sheep took to it. Most of these terms are made up by gender studies professors to justify their budgets.

          Things were so much better before all this came about. I inspired more girls to live their lives out in the real world than all those bull dyke professors ever have.

           

    • #651512
      Becka
      Lady

      Yup, my “kids” all in their 20’s are definitely aware of and have many friends who are “fluid”.

      Not sure if they realize their Dad is too!

      🙂

    • #651842
      Anonymous

      Anybody remember the term ‘Tomboy’? I was one. Played with the boys, hiked in the woods, caught frogs and turtles, climbed trees. Until puberty started, then I outgrew most of those activities.

      Pretty dresses for a school dance, dating boys too awkward to put a sentence together. Now a Mom, and Grandmother. I still enjoy hikes in the woods, think retiles are cool, but too old to climb a tree.

      Now days, I would have been put on puberty blockers without my parents knowledge and told to choose a boy name.

      Every study has an agenda, that’s how they get paid by those that fund the study in the first place.

      Every boy that likes cooking instead of Baseball, every girl that likes cars instead or Barbie, they are not misgendered, gender fluid, non-binary, or whatever new invented term of the week. They are simply boys or girls that like what they like.

      There are but two genders, a scientific fact. X and Y chromosomes and nothing more. How one identifies are feelings. Gender fluid is impossible, unless the claim is that someone can willfully change their DNA.

      Genetic men should never compete in Woman’s sports, where’s our equal rights? Nor should they be in woman’s changing rooms until after surgery.

      I’ve got more, lots more, that peeves me off about the gay community agenda. Not the community itself, the political agenda. I don’t use the LBTG**** term because they, (1) keep changing the letters and shame you for not keeping current. (2) Most of the terms don’t make any sense. (3) They all claim to be some kind of gay variant anyway.

      To be clear, I’m not anti-gay in any way. No one should be discriminated for sexual identity. My hetero husband likes to dress as a woman. If born a woman, she’d wish she were born a man. It’s the children, the most mailable minds in society that are being manipulated without a parent’s consent.

      The Pew study cites claims a higher percentage of trans and ‘fluid’ persons at younger ages. Doubtful that the change in identity is due to genetics than media and gay community influence.

      What a grade school teacher has in their possession today for class instruction, if found on a man’s PC, would be arrestable for child pornography.

      Eileen

      • #651893
        Emily Alt
        Managing Ambassador

        Everyone is entitled to their opinion….

        “Now days, I would have been put on puberty blockers without my parents knowledge and told to choose a boy name”.  No health practitioner I’m aware of would stake their reputation and livelihood doing this.  I got that information from dozens of practitioner’s websites scattered about the US.  Where are you getting your information from?

        “How one identifies are feelings”.  Really?  I guess my feelings were quite well-defined when I was 4 years old.  When I KNEW I wanted to be a girl.  In the 1960’s, there were no environmental influences.  No discussion.  No agenda.  All I knew was I didn’t want to be a boy.

        Gender dysphoria is real.
        https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/gender-dysphoria/what-is-gender-dysphoria

        “Nor should they be in woman’s changing rooms until after surgery”.  I’ll presume this extends to women’s restrooms too.  Well, I haven’t had surgery….yet.  But I’m on hormones.  I present as female often.  What do you think would happen if I went into the men’s room?  Asking for trouble if you ask me.  I would gladly apologize to an offended female vs being physically assaulted.  I’ve been in women’s rooms countless times and never had a problem, BTW.

        “To be clear, I’m not anti-gay in any way”.  I think your post clearly indicates you have issues with the lesbian, gay, bisexual, trans, and queer community.

        “Doubtful that the change in identity is due to genetics than media and gay community influence”.  Let me reiterate.  My gender identity was female when I was 4 years old.  During the 1960’s, there was no media coverage.  The gay community didn’t exist.  There weren’t any environmental influences.  Yet I still identified as female.  Why?  Because that’s how my brain is wired.  I can’t change that.  It isn’t going away.

        The decades I repressed my identity were filled with depression.  When I finally accepted myself, life got better.  Way better.  I’m tired of society telling me I shouldn’t exist.  I will never go back into the closet.

        Eileen, you are grossly misinformed.  The movement you refuse to accept exists for exactly this reason.  We just want to live our lives free of discrimination and harm.  Nothing more.  Clearly there is still a lot of work to do.

        I’ll leave you with this.  A few centuries ago, people with autism, schizophrenia, and other psychological conditions were labelled witches and burned at the stake.

        Respectfully,
        Emily

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