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- January 21, 2021 at 2:14 pm #436466
Trisha Smith
ParticipantRegistered On: August 24, 2020Topics: 7Replies: 116Has thanked: 47 timesBeen thanked: 512 timesSo while I was on my Rona Vacation I did alot of thinking. Mostly on stupid stuff like why do those dumb cardinals flock to a bush with no leaves. I mean it is cold out there and that bush has NO protection. But I digress.
Some say 1 in 5 men crossdress. Thats a bunch. So if thats true on any given construction site of say 200 workers there is up to 40 cd’s. Now given there is probably less cd’s in construction than say in an office setting. Or maybe there is more.
My point here is we all probably know a half a dozen or more crossdressers in our day to day life. Maybe your best friend. Maybe your riding buddy. Maybe your supervisor. Who knows. If only we had that knowledge our Secret could easily be shared and enrich our lives even more.
Now here is where this kind of thinking is scary. Just the possibility of this has me wanting to find out. I want this knowledge. I need this knowledge. How great would it be to hang out with your buddy one day and your bestie the next.
Soooo…… How? You cant just walk up and say “hey bob, do you wear womens clothing.” If he does then you convey to him that he let something slip or he got caught. Then he goes into a tailspin. And rightly so. Obviously he is going to say NO. As would I if asked. Maybe I could say ” hey bob, I would love to meet a cd, know any” ok well now your an oddball and maybe my cheese slid off my cracker. Or I could just set him down and tell him I am a CD and risk a friendship at worst or find a dressing sister at best. If 1 in 5 is close to true thats a 20% roll of the dice. Not good odds.
So I put it to you. What is that knowledge worth to you ladies. Because honestly I dont know what its worth to me. But I want it.
💋
Trisha.
So let me add an addendum to this post.
I meant for this to be a fun “what if ” thread and not so much of a “creeper” or “fact checking” or heaven forbid a “go out and find em” thread.
Please understand I would never recommend that anyone start researching others in the hope to find a CD close to home.
Just a fun what if post. Thought provoking and interesting to ponder
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- January 25, 2021 at 11:44 am #438100
Marti
Baroness - AnnualRegistered On: February 5, 2019Topics: 11Replies: 114Has thanked: 492 timesBeen thanked: 477 timesHi all,
One last visit to this thread for me. It’s been bugging me that I couldn’t track down anything ‘authoritative’ on numbers / percentages of transgenders, apart from pop science web sites – which I’m sorry just don’t count.
All of sudden this site came up:
How Many Adults Identify as Transgender in the United States? – Williams Institute (ucla.edu)
A solid academic survey, a little bit dated now ( the dataset is from 2014), but the findings were 1.4 million or 0.6% of the US population. It’s quite possible that this value has increased over 7 years in a more accepting society – but that would be pure speculation.
If you go to the link above, you can then download the full report to see how your own state compares. It includes the methodology used, and even provides its definition of the term ‘transgender’ for interviewers to use if the interviewee asks for one.
Marti x
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- January 25, 2021 at 1:39 pm #438126
Trisha Smith
DuchessRegistered On: August 24, 2020Topics: 7Replies: 116Has thanked: 47 timesBeen thanked: 512 timesNice find. Thank you.
But the stats wasnt really the point of my post. It was more of a “I wonder how many people I know that crossdress.”
Trisha
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- January 25, 2021 at 10:34 pm #438338
Marti
Baroness - AnnualRegistered On: February 5, 2019Topics: 11Replies: 114Has thanked: 492 timesBeen thanked: 477 times– yes, I understand, Trisha. It’s just the nerd in me trying to drill down to clarify statistics.
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- January 26, 2021 at 4:01 am #438398
Trisha Smith
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- January 23, 2021 at 4:27 pm #437329
Araminta Purdy
LadyRegistered On: January 23, 2020Topics: 4Replies: 284Has thanked: 408 timesBeen thanked: 972 timesI did forget that, amongst guesses, surmises, scuttle-butt and somewhat more reliable suggestions, the most meaningful estimate of the prevalence of cross-dressing males in North America that I have seen is 3%. I think that means 5-6 million persons (?).
Araminta.
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- January 23, 2021 at 10:28 am #437205
Paula Here
LadyRegistered On: April 13, 2020Topics: 5Replies: 61Has thanked: 231 timesBeen thanked: 301 timesI would like to believe there are many more CDs out and about in my town.
I have seen 2 people at the store that I believe are CD, but how do you approach?
If you make any comment showing you expect them as a CD their confidence could fall. How do you let them know you are as CD with out risk of being outed beyond the level you are comfortable with.
As for work there are several hundred men working there. I have noticed a few shaved arms, or chests under uniform shirts. But not willing to take the risk of asking.
Paula
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- January 23, 2021 at 8:59 am #437178
Holly Tygressa
BaronessRegistered On: January 16, 2021Topics: 2Replies: 105Has thanked: 116 timesBeen thanked: 321 timesYeah, I would love to know someone who crossdresses as well. I do not know anyone else beside all of you. It would be nice to go shopping with someone else on occasion or just to chat. If I discovered a friend of mine was also into this I would be so relived.
Holly
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- January 23, 2021 at 2:04 am #437041
Paula F
DuchessRegistered On: August 7, 2019Topics: 12Replies: 896Has thanked: 8918 timesBeen thanked: 3481 timesWhy not look at this from just a little different perspective. The two single women that live on either side of me are both single and straight. Both are GG, one a little older, the other about 6 or 7 years younger than me. Both women know I am T, but have no problem with it. The next houses outside of our core trio has one younger married couple that know I am T, and they are both pretty non-commital either way about it. Then a divorced, single male, on the other end of our 5 household line. He is definitely str8 and not friendly with me at all, but gets along well with the others. So, seeing our little slice of society, that makes me ‘THE ONE’.
There are two more houses on our side of the street, but are unoccupied, and seven on the other side. As far as I know, 1: I am the only person who can be considered gay, and 2: the only obvious T person on the block. By the 1 in 5 ratio, there should be at least 1 if not 2 other CD/T persons living in the area.
Alas, all of my observations over 30 years have revealed absolutely no one who share in the same lifestyle as myself. Just makes me wonder how deeply they are shrouded from the world, or just how accurate the polls really are.
PaulaF
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- January 23, 2021 at 6:35 am #437100
Trisha Smith
DuchessRegistered On: August 24, 2020Topics: 7Replies: 116Has thanked: 47 timesBeen thanked: 512 timesPaula
So as you thought about it and applied it to your neighborhood did you at any point go, hmmm which one. Thats what I did. It fascinates me to contemplate. For the record, it did say men, women where excluded from the stat but as far as I’m concerned all women practise a form of crossdressing as soon as they slip on thier husband/boyfriends t shirt. My question to you is did you enjoy the thought process. I sure did.
Trisha
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- January 23, 2021 at 3:50 pm #437315
Paula F
DuchessRegistered On: August 7, 2019Topics: 12Replies: 896Has thanked: 8918 timesBeen thanked: 3481 timesOh yes Trisha, I have set out on my porch and just people watched many, many times. Most of those, I had no agenda, but the times I actively looked at my neighbors, or listened to some of the gossip also, usually came after reading an article or seeing something on TV about just how many people were supposed to be gay or T or Les. Those choice bits of information were from “The Experts” and were holy gospel to the statisticians and data miners. Every time they spoke up, we ordinary folks were supposed to listen and pay attention to the facts, much as we are today with C19 facts which change week to week.
I am one of those people who don’t accept expert facts and opinions at face value. My mother taught me to question and to seek my own answers. So I sometimes sit on my porch or on a bench at the mall or in the park, and just people watch. I do it when I am shopping to, as that is when most people have their guard down, and you really see some interesting quirks of our fellow humans. I don’t follow or harass people, and the time I usually spend watching a single person is usually just minutes at the most. Body language can tell you a lot more then you think if you just watch.
I do watch men and women, and the kids too, they can give a good laugh sometimes. 4 of the 14 houses are rental properties, so we do have a modest turn over in the demographics of the block, so that gives me new people to look at and try to figure out, and some of the women new gossip matter and speculation. I have had one woman actually tell me to keep my eyes off of her husband after she found out my preference in FWB. It wasn’t the fact that I am CD/T, she knew that.
One odd thing I have noticed though, from straight folk, is that there is usually not a distinction between CD and Trans. They tend to lump us all in one group for whatever reason. It does make for an interesting conversation when you try to explain the difference to them too. The kids are a whole different group. They see you for you, I am Ms. F or just Paula to them, no conditions or standards set to show us as different.
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- January 23, 2021 at 12:57 am #437033
Lily-Rose Nielsen
DuchessRegistered On: November 2, 2020Topics: 6Replies: 158Has thanked: 791 timesBeen thanked: 566 timesHi Trisha
Why not 1 of 5 on a construction site? I have found several soldiers/ex-soldiers that are cross dressing. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
In my profession there can’t be too many crossdressers, I’m a nurse and the majority of the hospital staff are women. But on the other hand, how many of the girls are crossdressers? Here it’s a little bit unfair, if a woman dresses like a man, it’s natural, nobody reacts. If a man dresses like a woman, he’s a crossdresser. I love being a crossdresser.
And how many of the male nurses are like me, transgender?
Trisha, this is meant to be a little provocative and read with a smile 😀😀
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- January 23, 2021 at 6:22 am #437097
Trisha Smith
DuchessRegistered On: August 24, 2020Topics: 7Replies: 116Has thanked: 47 timesBeen thanked: 512 timesAbsolutely why not. I actually said “or maybe more” at the end of the paragraph. And I love that you applied it to your field as well. It really is fascinating , albeit skewed because of imperfect statistical accounts, to see how these factors work in each person’s environment.
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- January 22, 2021 at 7:30 pm #436999
Peggy Sue Williams
Baroness - AnnualRegistered On: June 26, 2019Topics: 12Replies: 259Has thanked: 930 timesBeen thanked: 1123 timesI don’t do it anymore, because of the mask-wearing requirement, plus I don’t socialize since COVID changed all our lives. However, pre COVID, when out cross dressed, I used to wear a name tag with my fem name, and underneath, “Ask Me About Cross Dressing.” You can still see that name tag in a few of my older CDH photos.
My point? The name tag was mostly a conversation starter with women who would express their approval of my cross dressing or tell me about their experience with a CD they knew or dated at one time. Very few men would ever say anything and even then very little. One guy told me he had a friend who went to the Keystone Conference.
Sometimes I could sense if a guy was sort of interested in learning more, and I would casually mention the CDH web site.
Like somebody else mentioned though, IMHO, I don’t think there are many of us every where we go, but that being said, men are coming more to realize they do have female parts to their personalities. They just don’t know what to do about it and how far they should go expressing it.
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- January 23, 2021 at 6:27 am #437098
Trisha Smith
DuchessRegistered On: August 24, 2020Topics: 7Replies: 116Has thanked: 47 timesBeen thanked: 512 timesI think it depends on your definition of crossdressing. There is post in this string that discounts those who; 1 only wear panties 2 only underdress 3 etc
So if you include all female clothing and all manner of use who is to say.
Trisha
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- January 22, 2021 at 12:56 pm #436869
Kathleen
DuchessRegistered On: February 20, 2020Topics: 2Replies: 164Has thanked: 529 timesBeen thanked: 596 timesI’m not sure your percentages are verifiable. While I’d like to believe 20% of men are crossdressers (I’ll explain later) I don’t think it’s anywhere that high. Numbers Ive seen are more like 2 – 3 %. That being said I do believe society IS becoming more accepting but I don’t think just asking others without careful thought is a good idea. Good way to get punched in the nose! I do believe more men are starting to realize they have a feminine side but most don’t know what to do with it yet. Society changes SLOWLY.
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- January 22, 2021 at 11:39 am #436858
Mary Jane
LadyRegistered On: September 30, 2020Topics: 13Replies: 128Has thanked: 250 timesBeen thanked: 700 timesMany construction workers wear pantyhose as it helps combat tired legs.
I also worked with a carpenter who painted his nails bold colors so he could see where his hands were when he was nailing. I have since met one other who does the same. (Both guys are not cross dressers as we would understand cding.)
Anyways. It asks the question. Is cding more than just wearing clothing?
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- January 23, 2021 at 6:44 am #437105
Trisha Smith
DuchessRegistered On: August 24, 2020Topics: 7Replies: 116Has thanked: 47 timesBeen thanked: 512 timesI think crossdressing is different for each lady that does it. I dont think it has to be more than just the clothes and I also think it doesnt have to be limited to the clothes. To define what crossdressing means for all into one short sentence is no different than the LGBT community excluding CD because we dont meet thier requirements. Just my thoughts
Trisha.
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- January 22, 2021 at 12:43 pm #436866
Molly
DuchessRegistered On: October 22, 2018Topics: 2Replies: 278Has thanked: 1428 timesBeen thanked: 881 timesWow.. ‘Is CDing more that just wearing the clothing?’… This is a rhetorical question isn’t it?
While I can’t speak for anyone else, Absolutely it is more than just the clothing for me. This is also why I think it bothers our wives so much. They know that it’s so much more than just the clothes. What gives it away, perhaps the sighs, the smiles or the happy twinkle in our eyes. Perhaps the tears at movies… Who knows! But I can say from meeting CDs in the real world that there’s something there that’s obvious that this is something that is ‘just right’ for each of us. Seeing that from someone else is easier than seeing it in yourself, but I’m sure it’s there for each of us.
Either that, or I’m a lot further along my path that I thought and it’s a denial mechanism.
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- January 23, 2021 at 6:52 am #437108
Regine Rich
PrincessRegistered On: October 9, 2020Topics: 21Replies: 600Has thanked: 6265 timesBeen thanked: 2587 timesI have to agree, Molly.
My wife has told me, when I come down the stairs as Regi, my whole demeanor has changed. I have that twinkle in my eye, my head is held higher, and the world HAS lifted from my shoulders. It is sooo much more than just the clothes.
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- January 22, 2021 at 10:30 am #436825
Araminta Purdy
LadyRegistered On: January 23, 2020Topics: 4Replies: 284Has thanked: 408 timesBeen thanked: 972 timesThis is an important issue for me. In all of my searching I have yet to find anything reliable on the prevalence of Masculine-to-Feminine cross-dressing.
Some issues that need to be resolved is what would be mean by ‘cross-dressing’ in that context. I would exclude brief, youth experimentation; female impersonation and paraphiliac attachments to specific fetishes or ‘under dressing’. Rather I would be interested in how what percentage of males develop a feminine persona on a regular and wholistic level.
The reason for my exclusion is that I would be seeking not the temporarily curious, solely sexually infatuated or persons who feminize as a part of their vocation. Rather I feel that the desire to be feminine (and it is important not to confuse this with necessarily a desire to be female) is far more prevalent amongst males than is known.
A difficulty with assessing the prevalence of cross-dressing is the fact that males are unlikely to be forthright about the matter. Thus the accuracy of any survey may well be compromised by frequent mendacity. Any such survey would have to be designed to ‘sneak up’ on the question in a way to promote a distinct and honest answer. Also, it would have to be conducted in widely-dispersed, geographic areas with good sample sizes. A difficult and expensive undertaking.
I really want to understand this but, I suppose, until male-feminization becomes ‘normalized’ getting that information will be impossible.
Araminta.
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- January 23, 2021 at 6:58 am #437113
Lily-Rose Nielsen
DuchessRegistered On: November 2, 2020Topics: 6Replies: 158Has thanked: 791 timesBeen thanked: 566 timesHi Aramita
I just wonder where I fit in your discussion. I’m a crossdresser since childhood. And I love it. I don’t have a desire to be feminine, I am feminine, so says all the girls I know. They feel it instantly when they meet me, they say. I’m transgender so I take it as a compliment.
Funny thing, no man has ever called me feminine. Don’t they sense it, are they afraid they will hurt me or do they talk behind my back?
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- January 23, 2021 at 10:39 am #437207
Araminta Purdy
LadyRegistered On: January 23, 2020Topics: 4Replies: 284Has thanked: 408 timesBeen thanked: 972 timesHi, Lily Rose.
At a guess I would think that you were a gender invariant, feminine male. There are other factors and it is not always that simple but the key seems to be the early recognition of your femininity and the sense of ‘properness’ in presenting that gender. Also I would defer to the girls’ evaluation as likely being accurate and the men who fail to remark upon it as being too shy or obtuse. In essence you are probably a woman and happier as such. This does not mean that you cannot exhibit masculine traits or behaviours as gender is not that tightly linked to one’s sex.
Unlike myself you would likely prefer to maintain a stable and ongoing gender presentation where I tend to transit between femininity and masculinity, more as a matter of opportunity than anything actually.
If I met you I would probably be inclined to see you as a woman.
Araminta.
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- January 22, 2021 at 10:02 am #436812
Trisha Smith
DuchessRegistered On: August 24, 2020Topics: 7Replies: 116Has thanked: 47 timesBeen thanked: 512 timesSo let me add an addendum to this post.
I meant for this to be a fun “what if ” thread and not so much of a “creeper” or “fact checking” or heaven forbid a “go out and find em” thread.
Please understand I would never recommend that anyone start researching others in the hope to find a CD close to home.
Just a fun what if post. Thought provoking and interesting to ponder
💘
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- January 22, 2021 at 9:59 am #436811
Hilda Beaumont
DuchessRegistered On: March 14, 2020Topics: 5Replies: 186Has thanked: 443 timesBeen thanked: 668 timesI decided to “come out” as a cross dresser a few weeks ago and contacted various friend and relatives. I also got in touch with Linda of http://www.ingirlmode.com who helped me considerably when I started cross dressing. We talked about her clients and where they might live and she said that she knew several in my area and would ask them if it was okay for her to pass on contact details. The next thing I know is that I get an email from Samantha who lives in the next block of flats! We have been corresponding by email, chatting on the phone and sharing emails. How good is that?
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- January 22, 2021 at 7:41 am #436763
Jill Marshall
DuchessRegistered On: June 28, 2020Topics: 3Replies: 39Has thanked: 43 timesBeen thanked: 222 timesThere is only one acquaintance I have where its not so much that I think they might be, but that if they were they would be stunning. The parallel I picked up on is that there are aspects of my drab appearance that derive from regularly crossdressing that this other person is far more meticulous about than I am, not to mention more naturally gifted. It takes a lot more to make a friendship click than just having crossdressing in common though, so I don’t see that knowing either way about him or anyone else would do me a lot of good. Only the isolation of covid could make me wonder about this – We need the ability to gather again so that being en femme can just be a given, and the question can be about finding the right friends among them.
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- January 22, 2021 at 9:40 am #436802
Trisha Smith
DuchessRegistered On: August 24, 2020Topics: 7Replies: 116Has thanked: 47 timesBeen thanked: 512 timesI completely agree with all of that. Well said
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- January 22, 2021 at 6:34 am #436731
patty williams
LadyRegistered On: January 19, 2019Topics: 68Replies: 1257Has thanked: 2104 timesBeen thanked: 4345 timesI would like to know,
But not to the point as grace said of outing myself to all the ones that are not.
It just makes me feel better and I’m sure all of us to know we are not alone and not as abnormal as society wants us to feel at times.
That’s the beauty of this site being around friends that accept and like us for who we are without any judgment.
It made me so happy to be out shopping and see another crossdresser.
I wanted to run up and hug them and tell her how great she looked
If course they would think I’m a total lunatic.
Maybe I am.😁
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- January 22, 2021 at 7:14 am #436751
Celeste Starre
LadyRegistered On: June 26, 2018Topics: 34Replies: 824Has thanked: 237 timesBeen thanked: 2562 times“It made me so happy to be out shopping and see another crossdresser.
I wanted to run up and hug them and tell her how great she looked
If course they would think I’m a total lunatic.”
Just be sure you are right. I was at a Xmas banquet many years ago and was talking to a friend who was the wife of another cross dresser. While we were talking another CD came up to us and asked her how long she had been cross dressing. She was not pleased.
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- January 22, 2021 at 9:59 am #436810
Samantha Peders
LadyRegistered On: May 12, 2020Topics: 2Replies: 30Has thanked: 58 timesBeen thanked: 108 timesWow that’s almost as bad as complementing your boss’s wife on her patterned stockings and then realizing she’s wearing regular ones.
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- January 22, 2021 at 7:19 am #436757
Sa•man•tha
Managing AmbassadorRegistered On: January 21, 2018Topics: 429Replies: 1742Has thanked: 7648 timesBeen thanked: 6888 times🎶 Awk-ward!! 😅
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- January 22, 2021 at 5:24 am #436707
Celeste Starre
LadyRegistered On: June 26, 2018Topics: 34Replies: 824Has thanked: 237 timesBeen thanked: 2562 timesI think 1 in 5 is probably too high. The important number is how many don’t keep it a secret and that’s more like 1 in 5000.
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- January 22, 2021 at 11:17 am #436845
Clara Cross
LadyRegistered On: December 7, 2020Topics: 7Replies: 132Has thanked: 348 timesBeen thanked: 605 timesQuick math: 300,000,000 people in US. Half are male. 1 in 5000 equals 30,000 crossdressers in US. Ergo, most crossdressers have an account on CDH. How ‘bout that!
: )
Best,
Clara
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- January 22, 2021 at 11:38 am #436857
Celeste Starre
LadyRegistered On: June 26, 2018Topics: 34Replies: 824Has thanked: 237 timesBeen thanked: 2562 timesYeah,I’m sure it’s a lot more than 1 in 5000 but also a lot less than 1 in 5. There are actually a bit over 15,000 here from the USA and they are mostly but not all cross dressers I think. I know a few are GG and probably a few admirers as well.
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- January 22, 2021 at 9:49 am #436805
Trisha Smith
DuchessRegistered On: August 24, 2020Topics: 7Replies: 116Has thanked: 47 timesBeen thanked: 512 timesI agree it sounds high. And as Polly said, the parameters can be skewed to make every man a CD as well as skewed so that gors to 1 in 500,000.
I just found the 1 in 5 kind of an odd number to fall upon because who among us cannot immediately apply that to our circle of friends.
I actually have 4 people I socialize with as a group consistently. I make 5. Boom
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- January 22, 2021 at 11:25 am #436852
Celeste Starre
LadyRegistered On: June 26, 2018Topics: 34Replies: 824Has thanked: 237 timesBeen thanked: 2562 timesI guess that’s one way to look at but if I go that route then of the top 5 not including myself that I socialize with 2 are MTF,1 is FTM,and two are cis female so I guess that would be 3 out of 5.
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- January 22, 2021 at 4:11 am #436673
stephanie plumb
Baroness - AnnualRegistered On: November 17, 2018Topics: 132Replies: 1613Has thanked: 2507 timesBeen thanked: 7091 timesThere are 12 houses in the close I live in with 16 males living in them. That means there are two more CD’s who are neighbours …. I’m wondering who? I’ll be looking out for clues………. I wonder if they are wondering.
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- January 22, 2021 at 9:51 am #436806
Trisha Smith
DuchessRegistered On: August 24, 2020Topics: 7Replies: 116Has thanked: 47 timesBeen thanked: 512 timesThank you Stephanie. This is exactly what I was hoping to see as a reply. The hmmm factor. So exciting to think about.
Trisha
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- January 22, 2021 at 2:40 am #436644
Sa•man•tha
Managing AmbassadorRegistered On: January 21, 2018Topics: 429Replies: 1742Has thanked: 7648 timesBeen thanked: 6888 timesI’d like to also refer to this prior forum topic, it seems pertinent to this discussion…
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- January 22, 2021 at 1:59 am #436629
Candy
BaronessRegistered On: November 14, 2016Topics: 10Replies: 59Has thanked: 18 timesBeen thanked: 126 timesFor the last couple of years I’ve taken to dressing on the feminine side in public. Not blatentey so but always women’s jeans or shorts, tank tops, t shirts, belts, perfume, jewelry, sometimes even a little eye shadow. Subtle enough that some people won’t notice but I’m sure many do. I don’t push it or flaunt it, I just go on about my business. I’m friendly, easy to talk to. I’ve always hoped that it would inspire others to take a chance and make some kind of comment or strike up a conversation. But to this day not one friend, one client, or even one stranger has said a word. Most I’ve gotten is a couple of knowing smiles from a couple of GGs and of course a few obligatory dirty looks. No one is willing to take the chance even when the odds are extremely high that I would be receptive. I live in a city of 1.5 million people and I can count on one hand the number of CDs I know personally and call friends. I’m about as “out” as I’m going to get at this point in my life but I guess it’s just not enough. Sigh. Guess I’ll never get to know who that 20% are.
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- January 22, 2021 at 10:04 am #436814
Trisha Smith
DuchessRegistered On: August 24, 2020Topics: 7Replies: 116Has thanked: 47 timesBeen thanked: 512 timesBut it is fun to wonder so you have that.
Trisha
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- January 22, 2021 at 1:30 am #436624
Sa•man•tha
Managing AmbassadorRegistered On: January 21, 2018Topics: 429Replies: 1742Has thanked: 7648 timesBeen thanked: 6888 timesMy question is: what exactly did they consider as “crossdressing” when rendering this statistic?
“Yea I tried my sister’s bra on when I was 15.”
“Ope!! Mark that down as a yes, we got another one!!”😅 Ok just having fun here, I do believe it’s more common than most people imagine, but always wonder how they set the parameters…
I suppose I can’t actually argue with the statistic tho being that I worked with four guys at my last job…🤔
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- January 22, 2021 at 2:41 am #436645
Marti
Baroness - AnnualRegistered On: February 5, 2019Topics: 11Replies: 114Has thanked: 492 timesBeen thanked: 477 times“My question is: what exactly did they consider as “crossdressing” when rendering this statistic?”
– exactly my thought. Statistics is a valuable mathematical discipline, but can be a murky field. At at what point on the spectrum do we stop including people in the stats? As an atheist I have no problems going to church carol services. Should my attendance be included in the stat on how many christians go to church?
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- January 22, 2021 at 9:57 am #436807
Trisha Smith
DuchessRegistered On: August 24, 2020Topics: 7Replies: 116Has thanked: 47 timesBeen thanked: 512 timesAgreed. And please understand that I had the same thought. But as I said in another reply. 1 in 5 applies to most of us directly. I found it odd and yet so easy to run with it because of the simple math and prospects.
Obviously this all speculation and I meant for this to be thought provoking not so much fact checking. More of a fun topic as opposed to a debate.
Trisha
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- January 22, 2021 at 1:00 am #436621
Anonymous
Registered On:Topics: 58Replies: 1716Has thanked: 7773 timesBeen thanked: 9458 timesHi
I think we have a slight advantage because we can look for things in people that we hide, disguise or actually do, to ourselves.
but there’s no way I am going to tell a group of 100 people ( especially people I know ) that I crossdress, to find the twenty that do…..for me that would be nothing short of social suicide!!!
20 crossdressers, 5 that love me for it and 75 that think i am sick and hate me, is not the odds I would gamble on!
happy how things are, not so much cheese, but definitely crackers!!!
Grace xx
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- January 22, 2021 at 10:07 am #436818
Trisha Smith
DuchessRegistered On: August 24, 2020Topics: 7Replies: 116Has thanked: 47 timesBeen thanked: 512 timesAgreed Grace. I’m not gonna lose 95 for the sake of 5.
But it is fun to consider and that was the point of my post. More along the lines of “hmmm” less in line with “charge”
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Trisha
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- January 22, 2021 at 12:27 am #436612
Paula F
DuchessRegistered On: August 7, 2019Topics: 12Replies: 896Has thanked: 8918 timesBeen thanked: 3481 timesI have often wondered at what the true number really is for a long, long time myself. There have been some times that I actively look for other sister’s that are out shopping at the same time as I am, either dressed or drab. I have ‘read’ only a very few girls out shopping and dressed, and even fewer that were drab.
There is really no ‘tell’ that I have seen that says 100% that a man is one of us. I have looked for the obvious: shaven arms, high trimmed side burns, mannerisms, etc. The compelling desire for secrecy that CD’s develop is very hard to pierce in just a passing encounter though. SO’s and spouses figure it out mostly through minor glitches they may notice in their day to day life with a practicing CD that eventually add up. But just casual encounters usually don’t pierce the protective cloak we draw around us.
Sister’s out dressed can be much easier to spot since we know the signs. But it would still be a privacy invasion to acknowledge them with more than a smile and a nod or wink and maybe a passing hello. I don’t just stare and ‘bird dog’ someone as that is rude and may even be considered as threatening.
PaulaF
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- January 21, 2021 at 11:31 pm #436596
Polly Stewart
LadyRegistered On: January 2, 2021Topics: 5Replies: 550Has thanked: 701 timesBeen thanked: 1542 timesTrisha…
Or… you could say, it doesn’t matter to me… people are people no matter what and only circumstances that you have no control over will give you a sight of something hidden.
Some while ago I just started saying to myself… “ you confuse me with someone who cares”. That was… was an undeniable freedom from trying to fathom out stuff that one has no control over what others think or do. Freedom at last!
Most builders I knew were guilty of builders crack that panty lines and I’m sure that the statistics are skewed in the mind of the statistician . They always ask the questions that will fulfil there own prejudices. Remember the famous quote “… there are lies, damned lies and statistics…”.
One in five? Them’s very high odds. Keep your cheese slices on your crackers and let life take its course.Love Polly xx
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- January 21, 2021 at 11:26 pm #436595
stephanie plumb
Baroness - AnnualRegistered On: November 17, 2018Topics: 132Replies: 1613Has thanked: 2507 timesBeen thanked: 7091 timesI do know of several. But I could never come out to them because of the risk of them broadcasting to others. The risk may be small, and I may be missing out on some fun outings together, but its a risk I can’t bring myself to take.
I would love to meet a stranger – say, a chance encounter at the supermarket , or out walking, when our eyes meet and the knowledge instantly passes between us – now that’s a different “kettle of fish.” Anonymity can be protected at least for a while, and trust built up. But I would still remain cautious. Rather like we do on CDH.
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- January 22, 2021 at 7:31 am #436761
Trisha Smith
DuchessRegistered On: August 24, 2020Topics: 7Replies: 116Has thanked: 47 timesBeen thanked: 512 timesI agree with you on the risk part. I have never been a person to fear change. Casual friends come and go. Jobs come and go. But to lose core people in your life is tough. Why court it.
Trisha
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- January 21, 2021 at 9:25 pm #436582
Emily Alt
Duchess - AnnualRegistered On: August 24, 2019Topics: 11Replies: 485Has thanked: 394 timesBeen thanked: 2186 timesI sometimes wonder about friends and co-workers myself. I’m willing to bet a few of them crossdress. But I don’t feel a need to find out. It’s none of my business. If and when they’re ready to tell me, that’s when I’ll find out. If it happens I’d be honored. I’ll have met a new sister.
I hope anyone reading this isn’t seriously thinking about digging into someone’s personal life. Don’t. You need a really good reason for that. This isn’t. How would you feel if you discovered a friend was investigating you? I’d be creeped out. Friendship over.
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- January 22, 2021 at 6:48 am #436739
Trisha Smith
DuchessRegistered On: August 24, 2020Topics: 7Replies: 116Has thanked: 47 timesBeen thanked: 512 timesI hope what I said didnt imply that I was going to research all my friends. Because that is not what this post is about. I simply found it fascinating to think about. I have seen several posts here that touches on finding/meeting cd friends. This is a new twist on that same desire to share this part of ourselves with others. And who honestly doesnt want to share the wonderful woman we become with others.
Trisha
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- January 22, 2021 at 7:40 pm #437000
Emily Alt
Duchess - AnnualRegistered On: August 24, 2019Topics: 11Replies: 485Has thanked: 394 timesBeen thanked: 2186 timesThanks for clarifying Trisha. I wasn’t sure how to interpret your initial post and I’ll admit my response came from a dark place. I know what it’s like to have someone violate my trust. I tend to be hypersensitive about that. It’s all good. Clearly this has been a thought provoking topic.
Emily
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- January 21, 2021 at 3:38 pm #436496
Krista
DuchessRegistered On: January 24, 2017Topics: 5Replies: 401Has thanked: 719 timesBeen thanked: 1606 timesHi Trisha, there are little things you can look for (but don’t get caught staring too long for as you say the cheese will definitely slide off your cracker). For example, do any of your co-workers have a bra strap bulge on their back? or bra strap lines over the shoulders? How about wearing clear nail polish – despite it being clear it can be seen. or wearing androgynous clothing? or panty lines? Jewelry that may be a bit too feminine? Makeup especially a light coloured lip gloss? wearing a flowery scent? I’m sure others will provide other suggestions for you. Stay safe, stay healthy, All the Best, Hugs, Krista.
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