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- September 30, 2023 at 11:31 am #769566
Patti Myself
ParticipantRegistered On: September 25, 2023Topics: 5Replies: 68Has thanked: 166 timesBeen thanked: 333 timesI just saw a very interesting and thought provoking comment in another thread which was about getting support from your wife/SO. The comment was turning things around where the wife comes to the husband telling him she is a FTM crossdresser and hopes he can accept it. Like totally wearing men’s clothes, not just casual things like a lot of women do. Even behaving like a man. I have never thought about that possibility. And while it is a very remote chance of that ever happening…it still makes me wonder about my perspective if my wife would have done that. Especially since I always thought it should not be that big of a deal for her to accept my crossdressing. But, of course, it was a big deal for her. Off hand I don’t think I would have liked it. So why should she like it about me? Food for thought. :)
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- October 6, 2023 at 6:33 am #770813
Holly Marie
LadyRegistered On: August 8, 2022Topics: 17Replies: 227Has thanked: 227 timesBeen thanked: 1071 timesWhat a great question! Really makes me think; in the end, I’m positive that I would be totally supportive, basically because it’s her!!! I love K, and while I’m too terrified to tell her the deep, dark secret, I’d love it if she “came out” to me… because then there would be no reason not to come out to her! I’m completely heterosexual, and while K is not exactly “Barbiesque” I think she could never be totally un-feminine in the same way that Holly could never be totally un-masculine… no matter how much I try. Any FTMs out there – we love you and hope you love this site as much as us MTFs do! Holly XXX
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- October 6, 2023 at 6:28 am #770809
Stephaniewy
LadyRegistered On: September 24, 2021Topics: 27Replies: 342Has thanked: 2303 timesBeen thanked: 2022 timesSince my wife is not at all girly and wears mostly male clothing almost there. If we ever moved to a totally new place I would love for her to be ftm and I would be her wife
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- October 6, 2023 at 5:34 am #770795
Jin Crocker
LadyRegistered On: November 15, 2019Topics: 6Replies: 662Has thanked: 45 timesBeen thanked: 2237 timesHave you looked a what women are wearing? Most all have been wearing what are traditionally called male clothes for several decades now. Jeans, T-shirts, even the business suit has come to look more like male clothes.
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- October 5, 2023 at 2:44 am #770571
Suzanne Martin
HostessRegistered On: January 8, 2020Topics: 9Replies: 806Has thanked: 7572 timesBeen thanked: 3411 timesThis is an interesting topic.
My wife is a jeans and t-shirt kind of girl. She will wear dresses and make u on special occasions but not on a regular basis. She grew up as a tomboy and has hunted and fished with me, does “manly things” around the house and other traditional male activities. On the other hand I do laundry, cook, sew, clean house and other traditional female activities.
In answer to the question I wouldn’t have a problem if my wife told me she was a FtoM crossdresser.
My question is what distinguishes a FtoM crossdresser from a female that just wears male clothes? Many women wear men’s jeans and shirts but aren’t considered crossdressers or at least society accepts it. To be a FtoM crossdresser do they need to bind their breasts and create a bulge in their pants to appear male? How does one differentiate one from the other?
In the end does it really make a difference? Aren’t we looking for our dressing to be accepted as acceptable?
For as long as there have been people on this earth there have always been questions such as these and never an answer. Do what makes you happy so long as it isn’t illegal and don’t push it on others. How much better would the world be if that were to happen.
I’ll get off the soap box now.
XOXO
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- October 4, 2023 at 7:58 pm #770437
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Topics: 0Replies: 0Has thanked: 0 timesBeen thanked: 0 timesMy wife now knows about my crossdressing. We are working through it. She has stated emphatically that she wants me to do what makes me happy (even though it had caused a strain on our intimacy and our relationship in general).
I could easily accept it if she told me she wanted to wear men’s clothing.
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- October 4, 2023 at 2:10 pm #770380
Mariana S.
LadyRegistered On: April 10, 2023Topics: 2Replies: 81Has thanked: 262 timesBeen thanked: 302 timesIn my case, it’s not a 1:1 comparison because my wife is bi/pansexual. Except that she doesn’t like trans girls or crossdressers, as I would painfully find out. As a queer person, she’s all for my dressing; as my wife, she wants a man. As for me, I’m as straight as they come. Even the male friend I tried to hook up with in my late teens didn’t arouse me; I just wanted to know that I wasn’t lying to myself (so many people told me I must be gay…) So that would be a deal breaker, and if that were the only way she would be happy we would be just friends.
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- October 4, 2023 at 12:01 pm #770365
Julie Day
DuchessRegistered On: December 20, 2022Topics: 1Replies: 173Has thanked: 162 timesBeen thanked: 731 timesPattie great question, I am a very accepting person. I think it would be an intriguing situation, I think it would be fun for her to go out as a guy and me as a women. I think people can feel comfortable in any gender they wish to present.
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- October 4, 2023 at 11:14 am #770360
Sarah Kanter
LadyRegistered On: April 25, 2019Topics: 25Replies: 292Has thanked: 700 timesBeen thanked: 1785 timesIt’s always valuable to think about things from the other side. My wife is pretty non-traditional in many respects, she hates wearing dresses, for example, so I think some aspects wouldn’t be too big of a deal. However, I don’t really like “traditional male” kinds of people, even as guy friends, so I think it would depend on how much she acted like a “man” and what kind of man it was. Generally, one of the things I liked most about her was that she wasn’t in many ways a traditional kind of woman.
I think another way to think about is that I like my wife for who she is. If I found out something about her that completely changed the way I think about her, that would be hard. I guess part of this is how much you know about a person before you make the bigger commitment. With cross dressing, it evolves for many of us, so it can seem like a dramatic shock for our partners. Especially if it’s something we’ve hidden or repressed or tried to get rid of, and so never told anyone about.
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- October 4, 2023 at 11:03 am #770358
Gabby Ashmore
LadyRegistered On: December 12, 2022Topics: 7Replies: 78Has thanked: 293 timesBeen thanked: 554 timesIn the past my wife has worn my clothes while I was dressed. It went as far as me waiting on her and cleaning the house while she sat and watched. It was a fun game that ended up being a turn on for us both. If my wife said she wanted to wear men’s clothes I would say knock yourself out. She has seen me dressed for 20 years. I’ve definitely worn lingerie and dresses way more than her and we both seem to be fine with that. She used to think I was trying to be more of a woman than her but I explained over and over again she is all woman even in my boxers and t shirt. I have to try hard to even blur the line. I will always be a guy in a dress.
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- October 4, 2023 at 11:49 am #770364
Patti Myself
LadyRegistered On: September 25, 2023Topics: 5Replies: 68Has thanked: 166 timesBeen thanked: 333 timesThat is an interesting response. Almost like a dream come true for both of you in a way. Some fun and games to go with it too. Nice to hear that someone has actually been involved in a situation like this. THX so much! :)
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- October 6, 2023 at 12:56 am #770760
J J
LadyRegistered On: September 13, 2019Topics: 13Replies: 1110Has thanked: 1 timeBeen thanked: 4696 timesIf you want to see a fun response seaxh youtube for the FtM crossdessing scene in the movie 9 1/2 weeks…very erotuc and loads of fun if tou can get your SO to do something similar.
While my wife does not FtM crossdress, she occasionally buys men’s items bexause they fit her better being 6’2″. I tease her about being a crossdresser and say I am.fine with it since I certaily am. She doesn’t see it a crossdress, but just as functional.
As I have noted before, as time goes on she has been projecting more masculine traits, and I mote feminine ones, though we are still very much our original genders, just toned down a bit. It works extremely well for us.
If you walked into her home office, you would swear it was a man’s and looking in my side of the closet or drawers you would see a whe section of dresses or lingerie.
So in some respect she has FtM tendencies and I am.perfectly happy with that, as she is with my MtF choices.
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- October 4, 2023 at 8:46 am #770327
Melodee
LadyRegistered On: August 6, 2023Topics: 1Replies: 94Has thanked: 108 timesBeen thanked: 470 timesAn incredibly good point, and frankly, the way most relationship matters should be considered. Marriages, friendships, whatever – “What if we reversed this situation?”
As someone noted above, it seems quite easy to say, “Sure, go ahead,” with the knowledge that there is zero intent for her to do so. However, if you truly consider it as a reality – would you want to go out to a restaurant with both of you in a total male mode? Possibly being seen holding hands or kissing? She is your spouse, after all and you love her.
If you’re really considering what I suggest, then you now have an idea of what it’s like for her. I’m in no way saying this green lights her to say, “You may not,” but it should give you an idea of what she’s thinking about/going through. Be patient. Be understanding. She will need time and space and support to work through it.
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- October 4, 2023 at 8:28 pm #770446
Carole Corbett
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Patti Myself
LadyRegistered On: September 25, 2023Topics: 5Replies: 68Has thanked: 166 timesBeen thanked: 333 timesVery well said. THX so much! :)
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- October 4, 2023 at 6:36 am #770308
Harriette
LadyRegistered On: April 22, 2023Topics: 16Replies: 982Has thanked: 3517 timesBeen thanked: 2408 timesWhen I declared to my wife that I like female fashions and was going to wear them more, she asked me something along the line of if she should dress as a man, too. I said go ahead, that’s up to you knowing full well that she wouldn’t. She likes feminine clothes. It’s just that so do I.
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- October 1, 2023 at 8:32 am #769729
KoriL Sometimes
LadyRegistered On: September 30, 2023Topics: 2Replies: 6Has thanked: 22 timesBeen thanked: 53 timesI have a few scattered thoughts on this. They will probably gel over time but I really like the question/scenario proposed.
I think women have the advantage right from the start due to the fact that nobody really questions anything if they throw on baggy jeans, a work shirt, some work boots etc and head out to get stuff done. Women pretty much get a free pass to cross dress to the masculine any time they want in our society. Now, if they start dressing that way, running around behind their SO’s back and having sex with other women or men behind their backs?….well, that there is on an entirely different level and some serious conversations need be had.
For guys, it’s a rare if ever day that any of us could even throw on a pair of size 12, low rise, skinny jeans with heels and a super soft T and make it out through the local grocery without getting the evil stink eye from a lot of folks at the store. My Wife would be receiving some curious phone calls or texts before I made it back home.
Double standards are double standards. They exist.
I personally cannot, at this point, see a path to letting my Wife know about my dressing without causing her a serious sense of being hurt for me not confiding in her all these years. It would be awesome to have a supportive partner but I think I ran the timeline out somewhere around the 25 year mark. At the same time, she has definitely changed over the years, kids and biological timeline. Nonetheless she’s the love of my life and, although she’s not the young woman I married decades ago, she’s still my best friend. I go out of my way, every day, to protect her from any hurt…….OK, rambling aimlessly now so I’ll shut up.
Thanks,
K
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- October 4, 2023 at 8:30 pm #770447
Carole Corbett
DuchessRegistered On: September 5, 2016Topics: 10Replies: 230Has thanked: 396 timesBeen thanked: 1154 timesMy wife and I talk about this and she agreed it a double standard…she can wear my boxers to bed but if I wanted to wear a nightie…not happening ! Your grocery store example is perfect.
At the same time my wife and talked about it “just being the clothes” …it’s not …it’s deeper than that at least for me!
Great discussion!
Carole
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- October 1, 2023 at 7:03 am #769706
Lauren Russell
LadyRegistered On: July 27, 2023Topics: 4Replies: 310Has thanked: 965 timesBeen thanked: 1177 timesI guess in a way she is…she loves the menswear look and buys clothes (particularly shirts) in the men’s department. Disappointing when I consider how she doesn’t like me wearing women’s clothes. This all points to the hypocrisy of how society defines and enforces gender roles.
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- October 1, 2023 at 5:39 am #769699
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Topics: 0Replies: 0Has thanked: 0 timesBeen thanked: 0 timesIn general, there would be two very different scenarios:
For a mtf cd/tg, having their significant other letting them know they are f2m cd/tg individual would likely be somehow acceptable to down right a fantasy come true.
But for a non-cd/tg guy, the likelihood of being totally cool with having a new “guy friend” to do manly stuff with, and with whom share public displays of affection would be minimal, if any.
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- October 1, 2023 at 5:16 am #769698
Clarissa Cross
LadyRegistered On: July 17, 2021Topics: 8Replies: 284Has thanked: 2708 timesBeen thanked: 1089 timesI have been thinking a lot about the same question lately and thought to myself that it would be a nice situation even though my SO is fully accepting me dressed when home but she doesn’t like med wearing a wig and makeup. Now after your question Im no longer sure that I could fully accept her being a FTM crossdresser, because I really like her feminine appearance and would miss her femininity soooooo much. Tough question.
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- October 1, 2023 at 4:39 am #769695
Alice Black
DuchessRegistered On: January 18, 2020Topics: 11Replies: 258Has thanked: 459 timesBeen thanked: 779 timesI feel like my wife always is dressing in male clothing. She only wears a dress on special occasions. If she told me she was FTM, I would like to think I do not have a problem. But I doubt that will ever happen. Crossdressing is nearly always MTF because society says it is fine for women to wear mens clothing, but frowns on the converse.
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- September 30, 2023 at 10:30 pm #769669
Alison Anderson
DuchessRegistered On: October 15, 2018Topics: 18Replies: 1247Has thanked: 981 timesBeen thanked: 5268 timesTo some degree, my (now) ex has, although not in so many words.
For starters, I’m more interested in the clothes than completely presenting as a woman. If I go out of the house, I’m going to put on a bra and forms, a wig, and at least some makeup to cover my beard. I’m also going to change my non-verbal signals and voice. But at home I don’t need these.
My ex had told me many times she would like to try “man-tailored” clothing, which I could interpret as an FTM crossdresser. But when we saw crossdressers on TV (not comedies but programs like HBO’s Real Sex) she seemed to dislike it a lot. Because of her double standard, I just kept hiding myself from her.
When she started to get a bit of female-pattern baldness, and because she was tired of having to fix her hair after work all the time (she is an OR nurse so is always wearing an elastic head covering), she decided to buzz cut and eventually shave her head. She is still shaving her head.
Even as late as a few months ago she was still talking about getting some man-tailored clothes for my niece’s wedding. Because of her shape, it is difficult to find men’s clothing that would fit her, but it is still something she wants.
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- September 30, 2023 at 9:05 pm #769656
Caty Ryan
BaronessRegistered On: August 27, 2017Topics: 145Replies: 1434Has thanked: 12 timesBeen thanked: 6385 timesI gave this a lot of thought before answering. Since I’m one of the “ancients” here on CDH, I look back on my own CD “career” and can only base my response on that.
I am reasonably sure I could cope with my SO in male pants….. That’s cos she never wears a dress or skirt anyway. Her lingerie is equally plain, so no “excitement” there…..As for the rest of male apparel, well that would be OK too.. Whatever made her happy. She does not wear much make up, so that’s a non issue as well if she went “all male”
I’ve never desired to be intimate when dressed with either of the two women I’ve had in my life, nor would I want them to come shopping with me. (If only cos I know that could never, ever happen! Plus I much prefer shopping solo…. When I can en femme, it’s only 2-3 times a year)
As for” coming out” to “all and sundry”. In the “bad old days” that would have been a problem. In these (hopefully…) enlightened days, it could be a blessing in disguise. The one disclaimer there is we live in a very conservative retirement village. Men and men and women are women and “never the twain shall put on a dress”..
A very thought provoking and interesting post
Caty.
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- September 30, 2023 at 8:55 pm #769652
Natalie Dane
DuchessRegistered On: May 8, 2022Topics: 10Replies: 320Has thanked: 2153 timesBeen thanked: 1426 timesIt really wouldn’t bother me in the slightest. My wife has always been more of a Tomboy and rarely wears dresses are Uber-feminine clothes.
He style including hair cut is more gender ambiguous, which suits her.
It used to upset me, just a little, that my wife wasn’t glitzy. Now that I’m more comfortable with myself I’m realizing it’s not that I really desired her to look a certain way, it’s more that I wanted to have that presentation.
-Natalie
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- September 30, 2023 at 7:33 pm #769627
J J
LadyRegistered On: September 13, 2019Topics: 13Replies: 1110Has thanked: 1 timeBeen thanked: 4696 timesI don’t think I would have a problem.with it
As my wife says about my dressing en femme, “they are just clothes”.
I married a woman, and my wife married a man, a d we are both comfortable in our rolls, but i have no issues with her mascine side, which can be quite strong, anymore then she has with my feminine side which I enjoy expressing in my dress.
I even encourged it once and got her to.wear my boxers (back when I wore them), and I wore her bra and panties. We had fun, but it was wasn’t anything she was interesting in persuing. The sex was fun though. She did look great topless wearing boxers while I felt super sexy in a lacy bra and panty.
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- September 30, 2023 at 5:55 pm #769617
Rachael Wanttobe
LadyRegistered On: July 21, 2021Topics: 2Replies: 127Has thanked: 588 timesBeen thanked: 431 timesIt’s an interesting thought. Me being how I am, would it give me the opportunity to open the door and be open myself?? Maybe. Honestly though if the thought experiment is that I’m a normal guy without my girl side, I imagine it would be difficult. Thoughts like this are why I tend to not try to come out to wife. Thought my girl was in a dormant phase when we met, I definitely knew about her and kept her inside. If I hadn’t my wife would definitely not have married me
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- September 30, 2023 at 12:51 pm #769579
Madeline Bradford
DuchessRegistered On: February 5, 2023Topics: 6Replies: 220Has thanked: 342 timesBeen thanked: 986 timesThat sounds like my response to a post. If you really want to shake up your brain, what would your reaction be if she wanted to take on a male presentation and be intimate? How about leaving the house and go out together in public? And how would you feel if she wanted to present as male to your friends or your family, and have them and you call her Bill or Hank? How would you feel if she came to you after years of marriage, having raised a family together, and told you that she has been secretly dressing as a man and going out with other women who do the same thing? It is asking a lot, and for many too much.
Now imagine your father coming out. Or your mother. Yikes!
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- September 30, 2023 at 1:30 pm #769581
Patti Myself
LadyRegistered On: September 25, 2023Topics: 5Replies: 68Has thanked: 166 timesBeen thanked: 333 timesWonderful response. You said it so well. Appreciate your insight and giving us more to think about. It is not a simple scenario. And it wasn’t for my wife and many others. THX so much! :)
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- September 30, 2023 at 12:12 pm #769571
Patti Myself
LadyRegistered On: September 25, 2023Topics: 5Replies: 68Has thanked: 166 timesBeen thanked: 333 timesAnother thing to consider. Me being a crossdresser, I would hope I would be very open minded if that happened and just say ‘sure…ok with me.’ But even with that I’m not sure I could easily accept it but might be willing to try. Not sure at all. However, if I were not a crossdresser and she told me that….I would probably be dumbfounded and caught by surprise and not be able to handle it. The fact that crossdressing is probably 99.9% men doing it makes this almost a moot question. But, still, I think it has really made me think of her reaction a little differently and made me more understanding of her point of view.
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- September 30, 2023 at 12:17 pm #769574
Rita Perillo
BaronessRegistered On: September 14, 2023Topics: 2Replies: 15Has thanked: 28 timesBeen thanked: 75 timesAnd you have to wonder why the vast majority of all crossdressers are men? Is it all the pressure society places on men to be “manly” and do “manly things,” when so many crossdressers have a very real feminine side and wish to express themselves in different ways that are unacceptable in the male side of the world? Seems to me, there is something special about women and femininity that so many men want to be a part of and want to copy.
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- September 30, 2023 at 1:35 pm #769582
Patti Myself
LadyRegistered On: September 25, 2023Topics: 5Replies: 68Has thanked: 166 timesBeen thanked: 333 timesYou are so right. But society is changing so much as far as male roles versus female roles. Maybe it is not so far fetched to imagine a female wanting to emulate a male. Sure makes me pause to think. THX. :)
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- September 30, 2023 at 11:59 am #769570
Rita Perillo
BaronessRegistered On: September 14, 2023Topics: 2Replies: 15Has thanked: 28 timesBeen thanked: 75 timesI guess the big question I would have if my wife came home and said that to me is the exact same question women ask men if they find out our cross dressing: Are you gay? Tough question because the answer to that depends on whether or not you stay married. If you simply feel the urge to crossdress, either man or woman, and then feel comfortable going back to your birth gender, then you should be OK. But if you feel your feminine side taking over, if you feel like you want to remain as a woman (or a man, in the original question), then you’ve got big problems. The tough decision for either sex is can you coexist in both worlds, or are you choosing one over the other. Every individual has to make their own choice about that.
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- October 1, 2023 at 7:33 am #769713
Sherri Remington
Duchess - AnnualRegistered On: August 8, 2018Topics: 2Replies: 337Has thanked: 294 timesBeen thanked: 1333 timesThe person I married 45 years ago has changed in many ways from the one that I married, some of those ways I can embrace and others that I just go along with. Still though she is the one that I’m best friends with, the person that I can share anything with and the closest person who has to accept my being a CD, so of course I would accept and support her if that’s what she wanted to do. She would have to get help though from someone other than me though, since I’ve never really been that manly man kind of guy.
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- October 1, 2023 at 5:03 am #769697
J J
LadyRegistered On: September 13, 2019Topics: 13Replies: 1110Has thanked: 1 timeBeen thanked: 4696 timesIt is, and I blame her for my desire to dress, because whwn I do she is so much fun in bed that it just reinforces my dressing.
Of course she is amazing when I am not dressed as well. She is just a wonderdul woman in so many ways.
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- September 30, 2023 at 9:12 pm #769659
Marlene Roberts
LadyRegistered On: December 9, 2019Topics: 0Replies: 468Has thanked: 7031 timesBeen thanked: 1300 timesA heavy question indeed. Best, Marlene,
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