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Coconut oil for longer hair - any experience or advice?

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Hey girls

You might recall that I'm growing my hair out at the moment, with the aim of getting it to shoulder length. In a previous post, I was seeking advice on styles that could be adapted to both boy-mode and girl-mode situations. Thanks to everyone's help I was able to hit on the look I wanted. Two days ago it was back to the hairdressers armed with a photo.

I, and more importantly they, now have a very clear idea where we're going with this.

Over the last month my hair has gone through a stage of being long enough that it had sufficient volume to stick up all over the place but wasn't yet long enough to have sufficient weight to lie flat due to gravitational effects. It's now passed beyond that, and is being rather better behaved. I love the fact that I can now tuck it behind my ears 🙂

However, it's currently at the point where I need to keep it under control while its onward march towards my shoulders continues. It's quite thick, and there's getting to be a substantial amount of it. The hairdresser and I talked about wax (no, I hate the feel of that) and a few other things, Then he suggested coconut oil. That sounded like a good way forward.

Yesterday, I bought a tub of coconut oil and watched a few YouTube videos. After that pretty extensive research, here's what I did:

  • Washed my hair as normal and patted it almost dry with a towel, just leaving it a little damp.
  • Warmed up a little coconut oil, put it on my palms and applied it to my hair, working from the crown to the tips.
  • Combed it all through with a wide-toothed comb.
  • Allowed it to dry.
  • Brushed my hair.

Now, having done all that, my hair looks and feels great ... but it's also a little oilier than I'd bargained for.

I only used a small amount of oil to start with (it isn't as though I applied a whole plantation's-worth), so is this normal?

Or am I doing something wrong?

*Ellie waits for someone to say 'Well, you applied coconut oil to your hair, and now your hair is oily. You'll be complaining next that it now smells of coconuts'*

Remember that I'm a complete coconut newbie and I may well have missed out some vital step in all of this.

Hugs

Ellie x

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(@elaines)
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@ellyd22 I have known of parafin and bay rum as a good hair tonic.  The bay rum is to remove the parafin smell.  As a child my told me about a chandler (old school) who swore by it as he used to rub his hands on his head and hair after selling and filling parafin fo customers in his shop.  He had the thickest hair I've ever known.

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(@ellyd22)
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@elaines I hope he wasn't a smoker 🙂

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@ellyd22 LOL     BooooooooM

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Hi Ellie,  This is what worked for me.  I had tried Coconut and other oils but they caused stains on my clothes where the hair touched.  So years ago when I was growing my hair out, my beautician suggested using Aussie Instant Freeze Gel and Aussie Head Strong Volume Spray Gel and it worked for me to solve similar problems.  She said to only use the absolute smallest amount in my hand and then blend it in when the hair is still damp and then comb or blow out the way I wanted it.  This controlled the fly-aways that were not cooperating but didn't paste them down.  By using about two drops the size of a match head I could control my hair between washes and it wasn't oily or slicked.  It also wasn't like plastic hair.  The key seemed to be using a way smaller amount then one would generally use with these products.  Also, I sometimes supplement with Aqua Net spray for times when it was real windy and I needed to tie things down, and again using only the most minute spray and not plastering things down.  So, hair you have it, the Marg style.  My hair is long (down to my boobs) and I still use these products from time to time but usually it's just washed in the shower with Pantene Volume Shampoo followed by Pantene Miracle Rescue Conditioner.  Otherwise, it's just all piled on my head or in a pony tail or just hanging.  After 3 years things will really seem to all come together as long as you can resist the urge to not go psycho on a bad hair day and cut it all off.  Hugs,  Marg

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@margprodue Hi Marg 🙂

I've seen the Aussie Head products on supermarket shelves but never thought to investigate. Now I will, especially as every other bit of advice you've ever given me has been spot on.

Incidentally, I tried something new with the coconut oil an hour or so ago. It was something I saw on YouTube that looked counterintuitive - but in the spirit of experimentation I thought I'd give it a go.

It involved applying the coconut oil half an hour before washing your hair and leaving it to sit. Then you shampoo as normal, patting off excess moisture and allowing the hair to finish drying naturally. Now it might just seem that all you're doing is putting something on and then washing it straight off again, and I honestly don't understand why or how it works ... but WOW it's made a HUGE difference.

Suddenly everything's sleek and shiny and lying exactly the way it should. No oiliness, no residue, no flyaway hair.

I'll experiment with this for the next few washes and see what happens 🙂

Hugs

Ellie x

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@ellyd22 Ellie, this may not  be as counterintuitive as it sounds on the surface. By applying it before shampooing, the oil can soak into the hair, not just be residue between the hair. The residue beteeen the hair will wash out, but the oil that is soaked into the hair will remain.

This is similar to using a conditioner or detangler. These soak into the hair and affect the barbs on the hair that tend to tangle. (The hair barbs are what cause the buffont effect when you "tease" the hair, namely brush it against the grain). But these don't work with synthetic wigs, because the synthetic wigs don't absorb the conditioner, it just remains on the surface.

I'm a bit jealous of your hair, because even when my hair was long, it was never thick. I got my fine hair from my mother. Now due to cancer treatment it has also become less dense and a lot shorter (due to breakage of the longer hairs). I'm glad I still have hair, but I'm not yet sure what's next on the horizon.

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@alison-anderson Yes ... now you've explained it, it makes perfect sense.

Following yesterday's experiment my hair was perfectly behaved overnight. I didn't look like I'd emerged from a wind tunnel, which is my normal morning vibe.

A quick brush and everything was fine 🙂

Ellie x

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@ellyd22   Ooooh Ellie,  I'm glad that your experiment worked.  What Alison said makes perfect sense and I'm thinking the same thing.  So, in reality this whole life is somewhat of a problem solving event and you just apply your natural scientific training to advance your solutions.  You know, Problem, Procedure, Observation and Conclusion (you can take the scientist out of the lab but you can't take the lab out of the scientist).  Also, thank you for publishing your results.  Hugs and Happy Holidays,  Marg

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@margprodue Life is certainly a whole set of problems 🙂

I promise to keep on trying to solve them. And it goes without saying that I'll continue to collate my results and post them here for proper peer review.

Hugs

Ellie x

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Posted by: @ellyd22

I'll continue to collate my results ...

@ellyd22 Oh, Ellie, get with the times. There have been collating machines around since the middle of the last century. 😆

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@alison-anderson 

*correction*

What I of course meant to say is:

'And it goes without saying that I'll get a computer program to perform detailed statistical analysis of my results and continue to post them here with proper consideration to standard deviations, variance and confidence limits for proper peer review.'

Even if all I'm trying to show is that coconut oil makes my hair shiny 🙂

Ellie x

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@ellyd22   And sometimes we put the lime in the coconut.....and then after a while the lab has evolved into a giant party with little umbrellas in the beakers and we don't come up with any useful data.....but then after all, it's Christmas.  Who could ask for more?   Marg

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@margprodue When I get back to school at the start of next term I'm going to make sure that every lab beaker has its own tiny umbrella.

I'm imagining a series of sixth form lessons in which we study hydrogen bonding and miscibility by mixing different spirits with a range of fruit juices, enthalpy change of combustion by making flaming sambucas and liquid density by making tequila sunrises. And of course there are all those molymods of alcohols and carboxylic acids to build as we carry out out 'investigations'.

The Head of Science is a physicist; she won't even realise what's going on.

Ellie x

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@ellyd22    Oooooh, can we have background music like The Stones quietly playing Jumpin Jack Flash and Play With Fire and end the lesson with Jay Hawkins I Put A Spell On You for anyone that is still lucid.....,also A's for everyone along with follow up discussion at the pub for those with real rigor.  Now I want to visit and audit the class if I don't get kicked off this forum for excessive foolishness and bandwidth hogging.  Makes me want to put on my best white lab coat and practice your lesson but I have to return to reality now and haul water for the drywall crew (really).  Marg

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Well, I mean, you did apply...

Ah, you're already there.

I think the main question is: What type of swallow brought you the coconut? 🤔 

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@melodeescarlet

African. Obviously not a European Swallow.

It's a simple matter of weight ratios. A five ounce bird could not hold a one-pound coconut.

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Well it seems that you have resolved the issue. Coconut oil is also good for the skin but don't overdo it but it would make slipping into something more comfortable easier. If all else fails it's a healthy option for cooking.......

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@ab123 Hmmm ... 86% saturated fat. I might stick to just using it on the outside!

 

Ellie x

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@ellyd22  @ab123 

I completely missed this forum when it was first posted, and have just come across it when looking for something else.

A year or two after injuring my foot a few years ago I was having ongoing problems with inflamation and repeated pain in the ankle/heel. The chap running our local wine shop suggested I use coconut oil. He said he had found it really helped when he had a problem with his elbow. So I bought some and applied it round the affected area. I had been doing that for a few days and then popped into the shop again. He asked whether the coconut oil had helped. I had to inform him that the only impact had been to make my socks oily. He spluttered and went on to explain that he meant I should have switched to using coconut oil for cooking. But by then I had thrown it away.

Sheepish

 

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I was advised yonks ago to never use shampoo. But instead only use conditioner..

Time to time I use a olive oil with a few drops of glycerine as a mask. Which really does the hair some good.. But I dye my hair and it tends to wash the colour out..

 

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@mary

Hi Peta

So many questions ...

Have you found that the whole 'no shampoo' thing works well?

And is there any particular type of conditioner you'd recommend? The one I use is argan oil and coconut oil.

Also, I'm only just now finding out about hair masks. Can you outline the procedure for me a little?

Ellie x

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@ellyd22   I use any run of the mill conditioner for coloured hair. (Don't use blue conditioner which is specialised for blond hair. Unless you are blond.) 

 

I usually put the mixture in the morning and wash it out that night.

Both work really well for my situation. Sadly I am receeding and am starting to think about wigs, or a fringe extension..

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@mary Thank you so much Peta ... that's really helpful 🙂

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Hi Ellie, 

I really hated the awkward stage when I grew out my hair.  Fortunately,  it came during winter so I just put on a hat.  During that time I used a couple of drops of olive oil to tame it and for a while after once I was able to put it in a ponytail. My hair is thick and curly.  Someone suggested the Curly Girl hair routine.  You can find it on Reddit.  I has a whole list of products you can use.  There are a ton of videos on YouTube describing the steps.  It worked well for me, for a wile. Then my hairdresser said all you need is a leave in conditioner.  I use one by Eva NYC.  it comes in a small, pinkish blue, pump bottle.   It works really well.  As my hair got longer, my hairdresser turned me onto a flat iron.  That was a game changer.  Now, in addition to the leave in conditioner, I use Eva NYC, Mane Magic.  It's a heat protectant primer, styling spray which leaves my hair very silky and manageable, whether or not I use the flat iron.

My hair sits below my shoulders and above my boobs.  In guy mode I pull it back into a low ponytail.   In girl mode, I'll leave it down or do a half up.  I'm out to my hairdresser and she gives me lots of suggestions and tips for Girl mode.  Now if I can only learn to braid my hair.

Have fun!

PS ... I almost forgot. Don't wash your hair everyday.   Washing removes all the oils from your hair.  I usually wash it once a week.  It took me a long time to break the habit of washing my hair every time I showered.

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@btwimrobin The concept of a 'leave in conditioner' is opening up a whole new world for me. I'm going to try the olive oil trick too.

I'm not sure I'm brave enough to only wash my hair once a week. I get that shampoo washes all the natural oils from your hair, but doesn't your hair get into a bit of a state between washes if you're only washing it that infrequently?

Also, combining your advice, and advice from an earlier reply ... what if you only wash once a week, and when you do you only use conditioner?

I'm genuinely getting very interested in all of this! I definitely need to find out more ...

Hugs

Ellie x

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@ellyd22 okay, according to my hair dresser, less is definitely more.  You shouldn't have to use a lot of product.  I use a conditioner every time I wash my hair. I plop my hair in a tee shirt for a bit to get out all the excess water. When my hair is damp, I'll work a bit of leave in conditioner into my  hair and let it dry naturally.   If I flat iron my hair, I'll dampen my hair with water in a spray bottle then spray the heat protector/primer on it.  Then repeat the process next week.  If a week seems too long then try every 4 or 5 days.  The point is not to wash your hair everyday.   Definitely a shift from the guy hair routine.   YMMV

 

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@btwimrobin Just about to go on Amazon and search for leave in conditioner ... in particular the 'Mane Magic' that you recommended.

I'll try switching to just using conditioner, with a four day cycle at first, and see how it goes 🙂

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@btwimrobin I've having trouble finding many Eva NYC products on this side of the Atlantic. I might have to go for a different brand to avoid postage costs!

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@ellyd22 oop, my bad.   Didn't realize Eva NYC wasn't in the UK.

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@btwimrobin Robin, braiding is easy. Divide the hair in 3 parts. Then it's left over middle, right over middle (or if you prefer, start with the right). Repeat. Finish off with a hair tie to keep the ends from unraveling. If you pull the hair as you braid, you can make it tighter.

A word of warning, though. Braiding will leave the hair a bit curly when undone. You may want a flatiron to straighten it out afterwards.

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It's not so much the branding process I have trouble with.  It's the sectioning of my hair and working in a mirror.  My hair is so frizzy it's difficult to make 3 nice sections.

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