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(@lindacol)
Eminent Member     United Kingdom
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I have been dressing for about half a century, starting well before puberty.  I have never felt like telling anyone who knows 'him' about 'her'.  For starters I would be too embarrassed that they now knew that about me.  Whatever they said, however they acted, they would have additional knowledge that they had not known for all the time before. Unless they had a memory failure it is still, even these days, an unusual piece of information which is bound to have some impact whatever is said or thought.  Furthermore, what benefit do they get from knowing? Perhaps they could appreciate that I trusted them enough to have confided in them but is there anything else?  Do they now have to keep it to themselves?  Can they share that knowledge with their partner, best friend, acquaintance, work colleague, another who also crossdresses?  If none of the above then should I have asked, before divulging, if they should like to know something about me which only they can know and not let anyone else know?  Are they now obliged to provide me with one of their innermost secrets?  Do I in turn wish to know something like that about them, something that I in turn cannot divulge to another and must keep secret, even from my wife, for instance? In fact, before I tell anyone about my dressing should I clear it with my wife first?  Would she be comfortable with others having such knowledge about us, having information that currently, as far as I am aware, only she knows?

It is so much simpler to not tell another soul and as I said, that is my starting position and always has been. There is always the possibility that I might get caught or otherwise inadvertently give myself away; although that has always been a possibility, however many precautions I take.  My wife found out about me because I was careless. However, I have come across some who have deliberately confided in others and have positively relished doing so. They have not 'come out' but just shared themselves with one or two carefully selected close friends or colleagues and seemed to have found that liberating for them.  It just scares me silly.

I am not the least ashamed of who I am or what I do or have ever done.  I never consciously chose to crossdress. I tried not to but life got far more comfortable when I just accepted Linda was part of me, though I am no different. Linda has always been part of me and those who know me have also seen her in me.  We are one and the same, just the presentation differs.  On occasions Linda gets full control of the body which is attired, behaves and shows mannerisms as far as she can appropriate to her gender.  Do I need to account for or explain this to anyone else when I don't understand it myself?  I don't feel I am attempting to fool either myself or anyone else, I am just being me.  While society has moved miles in my lifetime in these respects, dressing to be a woman as much as possible is still off mainstream.  Does it say anything about me or those who I love or who love me?  I don't think so at all, but might it if I was to tell anyone else what is essentially purely personal to me?

So in answer to my title question, I think it is a firm "No" for me but I have no problem appreciating there are those for whom it is an equally firm "Yes", though I'm certain they do so only after careful consideration of all the possible consequences for all concerned. That is way beyond me.

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(@delbert)
Active Member     abilene tx, tx, United States of America
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hi i was born delbert my mother told me that i was supposed to have a twin . i did but she shares my body , she is delbra dawn whom i totaly love . she fought for years before i finaly acccepted her as part of me .so i can well relate to linda's artical . love delbra
dawn

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(@nikkolle1)
Honorable Member     Portland, Oregon, United States of America
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Maybe the possibility exist that you are over thinking it. Sometimes we see things that seem so huge and scary but once addressed we find that it was actually pretty easy to do. I can only speak for myself but once clean and out of that refined dark closet I felt a new freedom. I didn't set out to tell the world, only those that mattered the most and once that was done the rest fell into place. Good luck Linda.

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(@nikkolle1)
Honorable Member     Portland, Oregon, United States of America
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Maybe the possibility exist that you are over thinking it. Sometimes we see things that seem so huge and scary but once addressed we find that it was actually pretty easy to do. I can only speak for myself but once clean and out of that refined dark closet I felt a new freedom. I didn't set out to tell the world, only those that mattered the most and once that was done the rest fell into place. Good luck Linda.

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(@april57)
Reputable Member     Camano Island, Washington, United States of America
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Linda - I understand your point of view and for most of my life I shared it. I still think to tell or not to tell, and who to tell, is a personal decision and one that is affected by so many different things, that no blanket answer would be correct. For me, I spent the first 58 years of my life worrying about what others thought of me, and it took a near-tragedy for me to finally stop caring what others thought. Part of that for me includes eventually coming out to those I love, because I do not want them finding out by accident if at all possible. Those friends and relatives who I see rarely and never at my own home don't really need to know so I will not tell them. My mother is almost 90, and I only see her 3 or 4 times a year - I also won't tell her, since it will serve no good purpose.

I look at my crossdressing as I would any other "unusual" hobby - say, collecting Barbie dolls - not everyone needs to know, and I might not want my macho buddies to know I collect Barbie dolls, but telling those that are closest to me might help them to understand me a bit better.

April

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(@april57)
Reputable Member     Camano Island, Washington, United States of America
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Linda - I understand your point of view and for most of my life I shared it. I still think to tell or not to tell, and who to tell, is a personal decision and one that is affected by so many different things, that no blanket answer would be correct. For me, I spent the first 58 years of my life worrying about what others thought of me, and it took a near-tragedy for me to finally stop caring what others thought. Part of that for me includes eventually coming out to those I love, because I do not want them finding out by accident if at all possible. Those friends and relatives who I see rarely and never at my own home don't really need to know so I will not tell them. My mother is almost 90, and I only see her 3 or 4 times a year - I also won't tell her, since it will serve no good purpose.

I look at my crossdressing as I would any other "unusual" hobby - say, collecting Barbie dolls - not everyone needs to know, and I might not want my macho buddies to know I collect Barbie dolls, but telling those that are closest to me might help them to understand me a bit better.

April

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(@skippy1965)
Famed Member     Richmond, Virginia, United States of America
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Linda,

I totally understand the reluctance to tell others of this intimate part of yourself. I had thought when I got married that the feelings and desires to dress would go away, but as happens to all of us, they returned as strongly as ever if not more so. My ex found out about Cyn accidentally one year into the marriage and almost left then but ended up staying another 12 years (and another child too) before deciding she could not tolerate it anymore. So I definitely feel that any SO/spouse has the right to know as secrets in a marriage are a recipe for failure.

As for telling others,including kids, friends, everyone else-that is, as April said earlier- a personal decision. For me, it was a secret I kept until the kids were teenagers living with their mom but discussing whether they might wish to live with me instead, I felt they needed to know about this part of me as they would have seen too many signs of Cyn at my house to be ignored. At the time I was fairly certain that my gender questioning was limited to the CD side of the spectrum but in the last 3 years or so the needle has moved more toward the real possibility of transitioning at some point in the future. Also, the need to dress more and more often as Cyn and the beginning of desires to let her out in public led me to wish to share my feelings with those close to me. I had joined CDH late at summer and the love and support I received here gave me courage to let the closet door slowly swing outwards. And at one point, the figurative "light" snapped on when my niece saw me wearing nail polish and I ended up coming out to her about my transgender feelings Over the next 2 month or so, the rest of my family here (as well as two close friends) learned of Cyn and for the most part have accepted that I CD and that I may or may not go further in the future.

Telling others CAN be a selfish actor it can be the only alternative to a life of loneliness and depression. WE each need to think about our motivation for telling others and weigh the benefits and the possible negative outcomes. WE must also be aware of and ready to deal with the possible consequences of revealing this part of ourselves up to and including the possible rejection by those who learn of it. That being said , it can be life changing in a good way as well if it allows us to more fully accept ourselves as people worthy of love and respect.

Thanks again for a very thought provoking article.

Cyn

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(@lindacol)
Joined: 8 years ago

Eminent Member     United Kingdom
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Thanks for all the lovely, thoughtful comments. As I wrote, my wife found out through my carelessness more than a decade into married life and more than two further decades later we are still together. For sure she knows I dress but neither of us kicks the elephant awake although she does make the odd snippy remark. When she found out, she did want to know if anyone else knew and then as now, as far as I am aware, no one else who knows ‘him’, does. I suspect that altering that balance would be a problem.

I don’t feel that my wife knowing has benefited her either in the intervening years and as much as I coped with it then, I had no wish to burden her with it. However, in some ways it is a relief as I should not want her to be shocked by finding out now and at the time the deceit hurt her as much as the knowledge.

I think that for some, telling others can be a selfish act but a problem shared can often be a problem halved. I do not think there is any right or wrong answer to the question in the article title for anyone but do think the consequences, real and possible, need to be considered very carefully before any milk is spilt especially as it cannot be put back in the bottle and that really was all that I was mulling over.

Thanks again for your comments.
Love Linda

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Lady
(@lindacol)
Joined: 8 years ago

Eminent Member     United Kingdom
Posts: 21

Thanks for all the lovely, thoughtful comments. As I wrote, my wife found out through my carelessness more than a decade into married life and more than two further decades later we are still together. For sure she knows I dress but neither of us kicks the elephant awake although she does make the odd snippy remark. When she found out, she did want to know if anyone else knew and then as now, as far as I am aware, no one else who knows ‘him’, does. I suspect that altering that balance would be a problem.

I don’t feel that my wife knowing has benefited her either in the intervening years and as much as I coped with it then, I had no wish to burden her with it. However, in some ways it is a relief as I should not want her to be shocked by finding out now and at the time the deceit hurt her as much as the knowledge.

I think that for some, telling others can be a selfish act but a problem shared can often be a problem halved. I do not think there is any right or wrong answer to the question in the article title for anyone but do think the consequences, real and possible, need to be considered very carefully before any milk is spilt especially as it cannot be put back in the bottle and that really was all that I was mulling over.

Thanks again for your comments.
Love Linda

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(@skippy1965)
Famed Member     Richmond, Virginia, United States of America
Joined: 9 years ago

Linda,

I totally understand the reluctance to tell others of this intimate part of yourself. I had thought when I got married that the feelings and desires to dress would go away, but as happens to all of us, they returned as strongly as ever if not more so. My ex found out about Cyn accidentally one year into the marriage and almost left then but ended up staying another 12 years (and another child too) before deciding she could not tolerate it anymore. So I definitely feel that any SO/spouse has the right to know as secrets in a marriage are a recipe for failure.

As for telling others,including kids, friends, everyone else-that is, as April said earlier- a personal decision. For me, it was a secret I kept until the kids were teenagers living with their mom but discussing whether they might wish to live with me instead, I felt they needed to know about this part of me as they would have seen too many signs of Cyn at my house to be ignored. At the time I was fairly certain that my gender questioning was limited to the CD side of the spectrum but in the last 3 years or so the needle has moved more toward the real possibility of transitioning at some point in the future. Also, the need to dress more and more often as Cyn and the beginning of desires to let her out in public led me to wish to share my feelings with those close to me. I had joined CDH late at summer and the love and support I received here gave me courage to let the closet door slowly swing outwards. And at one point, the figurative "light" snapped on when my niece saw me wearing nail polish and I ended up coming out to her about my transgender feelings Over the next 2 month or so, the rest of my family here (as well as two close friends) learned of Cyn and for the most part have accepted that I CD and that I may or may not go further in the future.

Telling others CAN be a selfish actor it can be the only alternative to a life of loneliness and depression. WE each need to think about our motivation for telling others and weigh the benefits and the possible negative outcomes. WE must also be aware of and ready to deal with the possible consequences of revealing this part of ourselves up to and including the possible rejection by those who learn of it. That being said , it can be life changing in a good way as well if it allows us to more fully accept ourselves as people worthy of love and respect.

Thanks again for a very thought provoking article.

Cyn

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(@Xeri Renee Alexia)
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As I have told many of you I come from a strict conservative area. I have thought about telling selected siblings and maybe a couple of locals about my crossdressing. Reading Linda's article, honestly, led me to conclude that my crossdressing is no more anyone else's business than, say, my going to the ballgame or hanging out with my vanilla friends. Crossdressing enhances my life, no doubt, but those of none of the other vanilla friends I care deeply about.

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(@Xeri Renee Alexia)
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As I have told many of you I come from a strict conservative area. I have thought about telling selected siblings and maybe a couple of locals about my crossdressing. Reading Linda's article, honestly, led me to conclude that my crossdressing is no more anyone else's business than, say, my going to the ballgame or hanging out with my vanilla friends. Crossdressing enhances my life, no doubt, but those of none of the other vanilla friends I care deeply about.

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(@terrim)
Reputable Member     Long Island , New York, United States of America
Joined: 8 years ago

I told my wife after 10 yrs of marriage after she had found a woman's phone # in my wallet. I could have made up a story and not tell her, but I was tired of lying and told her. Needless to say it was a shock. We had 3 children at the time. We are married now 45 yrs and have 5 children. As far as I know my children don't know. My wife is always afraid of them finding out. I feel no need to tell them and if they do I will explain it the best I can. I get out enfemme one or two times a month. My wife hasn't seem me as Terri and has no desire to. I think that when you tell someone you place a burden on them to whether to keep that secret or not. If my situation was different I think I would like to live as a woman, but realistically that would hurt too many people.
Yours Terri

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(@Xeri Renee Alexia)
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Hi Terri. Hope you are well! Miss you !

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(@terrim)
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Reputable Member     Long Island , New York, United States of America
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Hi Lisa!
Miss you too, hope all is well with you.
Huggs Terri

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(@terrim)
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Reputable Member     Long Island , New York, United States of America
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Hi Lisa!
Miss you too, hope all is well with you.
Huggs Terri

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(@Xeri Renee Alexia)
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Hi Terri. Hope you are well! Miss you !

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(@Xeri Renee Alexia)
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What a lovely, thoughtful article by Linda. However, I identify so much with Terri. We practically have the same situation and live in the same environment - with one difference: my wife helps me make up and dress appropriately when I go out for a short walkabout, also maybe twice a month. The one big thing she doesn't know, and I feel so miserable about it, is that I have long confided in other women friends. I know it's been a burden on them, but they have so kindly accepted me and they treat me as one of them. Nothing to do with sex, just going out shopping, dining and going to cultural events. Though I feel guilty about it all, I know that my wife wouldn't accept to do any of that with me for fear from recognition, alas. Like you, Terri, I'd much rather live as a woman, but with two grown-up daughters and three grandchildren, I admit I am past reaching out to them 24/7 as Caroline. Sad, but hopefully wise.

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(@terrim)
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Reputable Member     Long Island , New York, United States of America
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I have a friend that is 91. She now lives as a woman. Her wife passed away when my friend was in her late 70's. She didn't know. After she died my friend came out to her children and grandchildren. They all accept her. She is very active politically and does a lot for the community.

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(@terrim)
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Reputable Member     Long Island , New York, United States of America
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I have a friend that is 91. She now lives as a woman. Her wife passed away when my friend was in her late 70's. She didn't know. After she died my friend came out to her children and grandchildren. They all accept her. She is very active politically and does a lot for the community.

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(@Xeri Renee Alexia)
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What a lovely, thoughtful article by Linda. However, I identify so much with Terri. We practically have the same situation and live in the same environment - with one difference: my wife helps me make up and dress appropriately when I go out for a short walkabout, also maybe twice a month. The one big thing she doesn't know, and I feel so miserable about it, is that I have long confided in other women friends. I know it's been a burden on them, but they have so kindly accepted me and they treat me as one of them. Nothing to do with sex, just going out shopping, dining and going to cultural events. Though I feel guilty about it all, I know that my wife wouldn't accept to do any of that with me for fear from recognition, alas. Like you, Terri, I'd much rather live as a woman, but with two grown-up daughters and three grandchildren, I admit I am past reaching out to them 24/7 as Caroline. Sad, but hopefully wise.

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(@terrim)
Reputable Member     Long Island , New York, United States of America
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I told my wife after 10 yrs of marriage after she had found a woman's phone # in my wallet. I could have made up a story and not tell her, but I was tired of lying and told her. Needless to say it was a shock. We had 3 children at the time. We are married now 45 yrs and have 5 children. As far as I know my children don't know. My wife is always afraid of them finding out. I feel no need to tell them and if they do I will explain it the best I can. I get out enfemme one or two times a month. My wife hasn't seem me as Terri and has no desire to. I think that when you tell someone you place a burden on them to whether to keep that secret or not. If my situation was different I think I would like to live as a woman, but realistically that would hurt too many people.
Yours Terri

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(@managercodille)
Trusted Member     Baltimore, Maryland, United States of America
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Linda,

Yes or No, the fact that you feel comfortable presenting either way because it is ALL you and is ALWAYS all you alomst make the question in your case irrelevant. I am so glad you found that balance as few of us do.

As for Yes or No for me....the answer is some Yes, some No, mostly I don't care either way.

A very well written article Ms. Linda!!!

Codille Benton
Managing Ambassador

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(@managercodille)
Trusted Member     Baltimore, Maryland, United States of America
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Linda,

Yes or No, the fact that you feel comfortable presenting either way because it is ALL you and is ALWAYS all you alomst make the question in your case irrelevant. I am so glad you found that balance as few of us do.

As for Yes or No for me....the answer is some Yes, some No, mostly I don't care either way.

A very well written article Ms. Linda!!!

Codille Benton
Managing Ambassador

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Lady
(@vickiej)
Eminent Member     Chicago, IL, United States of America
Joined: 8 years ago

Linda,

Thanks for writing such a nice article.

I too have agonized over the same question. Do I tell some one? If so, who do I tell? Although recently I have come out to some people who are very close to me, I came to the conclusion that I would tell people when it felt as though it was for my own benifit. It felt good to tell them. It felt like a tremendous amount of weight had been lifted off me.

My point is, it's about us. It's never been about them.

Hugs and best wishes,

Vickiej

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