- April 24, 2020 at 6:25 am #338175HariettaParticipantRegistered On: December 13, 2016Topics: 81Replies: 167Has thanked: 8 timesBeen thanked: 949 times
As strictly an occasional crossdresser I also love my male side. There are parts of maleism in certain situations that I abhor. One is a privateish gathering of three or more males.Which happened as we raked the front yard yesterday. MMPMPC?!?!?
M – macho
M – male(ish)
P – potty
M – mouth
P – pissing
C – contest
Believe me as one of three brothers from small-town Ontario I can F-bomb and potty mouth like a five whiskeys Rambo, and I joined in. I was worried that I had pushed things a little far and one might have caught on that I was actually ridiculing them. But then again, in true maleish insecurity…they all at least pretended to buy it. I did get the “you kiss you momma with that mouth?” comment…
Why do men define their gender with crudite?.
The thing is I am certain at least one of them might have coveted that silky pink teddy/camisole I got off of Amazon last week…
How are you a faking macho?
Talk (sweetly) amongst yourselves…
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- August 16, 2020 at 5:30 pm #374869Britney SummersParticipantRegistered On: June 6, 2020Topics: 3Replies: 71Has thanked: 248 timesBeen thanked: 167 times
I wouldn’t worry about the cussing as it isn’t limited to one gender. I don’t think it makes one macho either. I could cuss a good line right now even in a miniskirt and heels. Just be the real you both male, and inner female.
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- August 14, 2020 at 11:14 am #374060Joanne JacksonParticipantRegistered On: May 26, 2020Topics: 0Replies: 34Has thanked: 50 timesBeen thanked: 82 times
Yes, it’s not my preferred method of communication but was a steelworker and a sailor so i can bark with the best of them when i need to.
- August 12, 2020 at 8:17 am #373369Laura Jane MooreParticipantRegistered On: July 10, 2020Topics: 3Replies: 43Has thanked: 275 timesBeen thanked: 190 times
I have always faked macho… since I was 5….. so I’m pretty good at it and quite frankly pretty tired of it… I have finally accepted the woman in me and find myself showing my femininity more and more. I have concluded that I am more than a CD… I have the soul of a woman.
- August 12, 2020 at 12:19 am #373250TJ Laber-TeaParticipantRegistered On: June 29, 2020Topics: 11Replies: 75Has thanked: 574 timesBeen thanked: 266 times
My wife swears like a navvie, although we here in the UK probably swear a lot more than the US. Only Australians and the Irish seem to be more proficient at dropping every known (and unknown) obscenity better than us. 🤣
- August 11, 2020 at 2:43 pm #373165Heather HarrisonParticipantRegistered On: August 3, 2020Topics: 6Replies: 69Has thanked: 408 timesBeen thanked: 271 times
I’m only macho when I have to be. Sometimes being a hardass is the only language macho bully types understand. I learned that at a very young age. I spent 10 years as a cop and even then I would only use force if it was absolutely necessary.
I prefer my soft side as Heather.
Thanks for this post.
- August 11, 2020 at 2:21 pm #373159Peggy Sue WilliamsParticipantRegistered On: June 26, 2019Topics: 10Replies: 187Has thanked: 721 timesBeen thanked: 699 times
During my 22 years active service in the US Navy, I encountered many female sailors and marines whose profane obscene language would make a seasoned fleet sailor blush.
- August 11, 2020 at 11:46 am #373103Tricia LynnParticipantRegistered On: November 20, 2017Topics: 1Replies: 70Has thanked: 301 timesBeen thanked: 232 times
Interesting thoughts to ponder here, Harietta.
I was a lonely nerd growing up, sucked at sports, sensitive, cried easily, often bullied and called a sissy many times. Pretty much the opposite of macho, I suppose. Oh, yeah – and I was painfully shy, especially around girls. I can’t say that I was overly girly acting or anything like that, just a skinny nerdy kid that did discover the beautiful feeling of wearing girls clothes at a young age when I tried on my mom’s and sisters’ stuff.
I joined the Army a few months after high school when I couldn’t find a decent job and my mom and I weren’t getting along particularly well. Had to learn to be a bit macho to survive in that environment, but I guess that came more easily than I thought it would (testosterone at high levels at 18?). Always kept my crossdressing secret throughout my life and I am pretty certain that most people that know me would absolutely freak out if they knew I liked to wear women’s clothes, so I guess I don’t have any trouble appearing “manly”. That said, I don’t like that side of me sometimes. I prefer my softer side and I am just glad that I have this avenue to help keep the male side from getting overly strong influence over my total persona.
- June 29, 2020 at 10:08 am #358951Samantha PedersParticipantRegistered On: May 12, 2020Topics: 2Replies: 6Has thanked: 16 timesBeen thanked: 26 times
Exactly if you really are Macho you don’t have to go around telling people or saying words to prove it. Some ways I think being a crossdresser is extremely Macho. Have to be pretty secure to go out into public in a sequin dress, look people in the eye and say you got a problem with it.
- June 26, 2020 at 9:23 pm #358234Ellie HopeParticipantRegistered On: October 3, 2019Topics: 1Replies: 77Has thanked: 138 timesBeen thanked: 274 times
- June 25, 2020 at 4:29 pm #358006Amy MyersParticipantRegistered On: February 11, 2019Topics: 11Replies: 996Has thanked: 2425 timesBeen thanked: 2238 times
I used to try more than I do now, but I don’t think I’m very good at it and basically stopped trying. Not that I don’t swear, but all of the other macho stuff, I don’t think so.
I can be strong willed, and determined when I need to be, but I don’t think that is necessarily being macho.
- June 25, 2020 at 6:43 am #357907Wendy SwiftParticipantRegistered On: May 11, 2020Topics: 1Replies: 197Has thanked: 117 timesBeen thanked: 610 times
I worked at a historical park for 5 summers when I was a student (it was a kitchen job, so our interaction with park guests was minimal). Before then I would occassionally swear, but nothing excessive.
When I started working at the park, the sous chef would drop F bombs like nobody’s business. F this, F that, F you, …. Well after the first summer I picked up on that and began incorporating F into my vocabulary. By the last summer, I could surpass him in dropping F bombs.
After I left and took jobs more towards my career, my potty mouth subsided, as it wasn’t professional to start swearing in an office setting.
Well, after so many years and now at my current job, the F bombs have crept back. It is ironic because in a school setting which is dominated by politically correct liberal types, I swear worse than a sailor.
- June 23, 2020 at 2:38 pm #357507Peggy Sue WilliamsParticipantRegistered On: June 26, 2019Topics: 10Replies: 187Has thanked: 721 timesBeen thanked: 699 times
Served 22 years active duty in the U.S. Navy. Saw many wannabe macho – Rambo types. They made the worst leaders, all mouth, and when the bad guys start shooting at you, suddenly everyone is diving for cover, including the macho – Rambo types. The most effective leaders I know were the calm, cool, collected, quiet type. When they walked in a room, they did not have to say anything. Everybody knew right away, this guy is the boss. A big “however,” when I left the military and entered the civilian work force, I soon found out you cannot trust anyone, and everyone will stick a knife in your back and laugh, a big change that took me a while to adjust to.
- June 23, 2020 at 2:29 pm #357505Stevie SteinerParticipantRegistered On: June 11, 2020Topics: 21Replies: 451Has thanked: 1823 timesBeen thanked: 2098 times
I find myself ever more annoyed with the excessive use of the F bomb. “F” this and “F” that and F, F, F… some peoples vocabulary appears limited to this one adjective.
Hey, I will use it on occasion, but more in a light hearted joking way a la George Carlin (RIP). The one thing that brings out my very foul language is animal abuse. Then I could make anyone blush and cringe. And of course being in the Forces as a teenager taught me to cuss with the best of them. Actually, it was required to curse and abuse recruits in those days …
- June 23, 2020 at 1:40 pm #357488Dala CarlianParticipantRegistered On: March 4, 2020Topics: 3Replies: 72Has thanked: 183 timesBeen thanked: 194 times
No need to “fake it”…
When in boy clothes, I’m Mr Macho(my wife says so).
She was actually relieved when I came out as a CD. She was “worried that all there was to you is the macho masculine side”
And when I’m at work, I’m large and in charge. I’m a direct, let’s get this done, assholes and elbows boys…kind of lead by example Field Engineer…
So no faking it…lol
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- April 29, 2020 at 12:19 am #339432Daisy MarieParticipantRegistered On: September 27, 2019Topics: 1Replies: 53Has thanked: 86 timesBeen thanked: 199 times
Living with my parents and, sometimes, working as an engineer make me play the macho role most of the time.
I’d say there are, at least, two personas inside me: the macho, who curses, swears, drinks a lot and thinks/says a lot of dirty things; and the girl, who loves heels, dresses, makeup, accessories and who would love to walk on the streets like a model. The main issue is how often I show up those personas (the former is shown up far more often than the latter), but I understand the circumstances and, in the end, I try to do my best.
- April 27, 2020 at 2:48 pm #339136Elizabeth DanielsParticipantRegistered On: March 30, 2017Topics: 0Replies: 2Has thanked: 3 timesBeen thanked: 14 times
I am of the camp of moderation. I don’t regularly drop any bombs verbally, but am not shy when it adds the needed “flavor” to conversation or informing inanimate objects of your sispleasure of its lack of cooperation. Quick side note I learned years ago. If you are going to inform objects of your displeasure, know the country of manufacture of said object and use the corresponding language for expletives of choice (if it is a Subaru cuss in Japanese) if you don’t do that the object won’t understand your displeasure with it, and therefore will continue to be uncooperative. Just trying to help ladies. Love you all, Elizabeth
- April 27, 2020 at 1:26 pm #339117TerriParticipantRegistered On: May 17, 2016Topics: 0Replies: 140Has thanked: 120 timesBeen thanked: 395 times
I had macho jobs my whole working career. Being in law enforcement and private security I was as macho as my co-workers. When I was in the Army I knew I had to play the macho role. But when I retired I worked at home caring for people. I didnt need the job or the money which wasn’t much. But it was a very rewarding job.
- April 27, 2020 at 11:09 am #339101Christy BrownMemberRegistered On: March 28, 2020Topics: 0Replies: 8Has thanked: 37 timesBeen thanked: 36 times
Interesting question. In truth, I have known males who are insecure enough to really exhibit these characteristics – more so 30 or 40 years ago – but it seems a bit off as a generalization of a gender.
Now a days, females seem to be just as crude – except for the pissing, maybe!
- April 27, 2020 at 5:55 am #339015HariettaParticipantRegistered On: December 13, 2016Topics: 81Replies: 167Has thanked: 8 timesBeen thanked: 949 times
Sure, I’m hetero but not made of stone either. I’ll look back when Euridice passes by. But my attraction is never expressed vocally. crudely or otherwise.
- April 26, 2020 at 7:37 pm #338948skippy1965 CynthiaAmbassadorRegistered On: August 25, 2015Topics: 110Replies: 1246Has thanked: 548 timesBeen thanked: 1344 times
Macho? Never could pull that off (nor ever really wanted to). Masculine? I used to be at least okay at appearing “not feminine”. Would never have considered my self as uber masculine in my younger days- and mainly someone ho faded into the woodwork as I was shy and introverted. I’ve gotten more social as Cyn became more of an open and fuller part of my life. And with my hair now well down my back -even when up in a high ponytail-I get gently teased by my friends at league pool as having the best hair in the bar. I also am happy to french braid any girl’s hair if she likes-averaging 2-4 times whenever I’m there. And I know that at least a dozen or two dozen of my friends there know about Cyn and are ok with it.
- April 26, 2020 at 3:22 pm #338863Sandy JaysonParticipantRegistered On: September 29, 2019Topics: 12Replies: 162Has thanked: 382 timesBeen thanked: 653 times
Hi Harietta. I don’t think that being a potty mouth is a sign of being a macho man. I don’t believe I ever heard my dad ever swear or use any kind of cuss word. He was a mostly quiet man who only said what needed to be said and did what needed to be done. He was a midwest farmer who raised 5 boys which took a lot of hard work. 7 days a week, sometimes 16 hour days during planting and harvest season. I don’t know if you would call this macho or maybe stoic would be more accurate. I sure would not call this anyware near feminine.
I myself can cuss and swear with the best, but I choose not to, and have always tried not to. But starting this year I started to switch to behaving more feminine at work, I started giving my male coworkers a hug before work every day. This has had to go on hold till after the virus scare is over.
- April 26, 2020 at 2:59 pm #338858LeaParticipantRegistered On: March 23, 2016Topics: 57Replies: 196Has thanked: 172 timesBeen thanked: 653 times
A counter question – can you go to a dance club, strip club, bar, or party and oogle women strictly like many guys do?
I can’t, I seem to have gained too much respect for women as a CD. I’m hetero, and the first things that often jump out to me is how a woman is dressed, her attitude, her demeaner, her femininty. The worst macho situations for me would be when guy friends would want to go to a strip club. The first things that would jump out to me would be, “wow, I like her outfit”, or “I wonder how many inches are those heels”, “gross how all these guys treat her, she’s a lady”.
Same when my wife dresses up sexily or in lingerie. My first thoughts are how good she looks, then followed by I wonder how I would look in an outfit like that, then, wow, she’s up to somethiing.
- April 26, 2020 at 12:55 pm #338842Anne-MarieParticipantRegistered On: August 26, 2018Topics: 4Replies: 380Has thanked: 315 timesBeen thanked: 947 times
Sadly, I can do this second nature and it’s abhorrent but still.
I do also have to say, I work with loads of women who can put men in the shade with this type of potty mouthed, loutish behaviour. Even some female psychiatrists I’ve worked with are expert at this. And have you can the gauntlet of calling a group of women ladies. Definitely need to wear a hard hat and ear muffs If I dare do that again.
Take care girls.
- April 25, 2020 at 3:44 pm #338623Morgan StaarParticipantRegistered On: November 3, 2018Topics: 1Replies: 50Has thanked: 7 timesBeen thanked: 180 times
- April 25, 2020 at 1:20 pm #338573Alison AndersonParticipantRegistered On: October 15, 2018Topics: 3Replies: 310Has thanked: 152 timesBeen thanked: 1077 times
It’s not that I don’t have any male interests, but I’ve hated macho my whole life. I had to be taught to cuss by the councilor in summer camp, and it still wasn’t me. When I was young, I would put on the TV on Sunday nights to watch The Wonderful World of Disney. If there was a football game that was running late, my Dad (who wasn’t a sports fan either) might come and ask me “Who am I rooting for?” My answer was always the same. “The clock.” I didn’t understand the rules, only that they just kept stopping the clock.
In school, during the time of the first Ali-Frazier fight, some of the boys would come up to me and ask me who I was rooting for. They kind of made fun of me because I didn’t care, telling me I have to care. But watching two fighters trying to give the other a concussion was never of interest to me.
I don’t put myself in situations of back and forth potty mouth between guys. You asked why they do it, and part of the answer relates to what a former radio host used to ask. “Why do dogs scratch their back side? Because they can.”
As long as people say “Boys will be boys” and accept the potty mouth as “normal” male behavior, it will continue. Not saying anything is akin to acceptance. The only way to stop it is to say something.
I just don’t put myself in a situation where potty mouth is acceptable, and therefore don’t have to deal with it.
- April 25, 2020 at 9:32 am #338516patty williamsParticipantRegistered On: January 19, 2019Topics: 61Replies: 1103Has thanked: 1650 timesBeen thanked: 3487 times
One time at work I was giving a girl that worked in our office a ride from our work space back to her office.
She saw one of our employees trans am and said That is a Nice Mother F***cker.
I imideiatly thought how unattractive that language made her look.
She motivated me to talk better for sure its just not very attractive in a woman to me.
I hope I don’t offend any one .
I must say I have to watch my mouth working on things I let it fly too much and its a bad habit I need to get out of
- April 28, 2020 at 9:12 am #339286Bettylou CoxParticipantRegistered On: May 26, 2019Topics: 14Replies: 1331Has thanked: 2041 timesBeen thanked: 3794 times
Patty Williams wrote: “She motivated me to talk better for sure its just not very attractive in a woman to me.
I hope I don’t offend any one .”
No offense here, Patty. Occasional coarse language is something you just expect to hear from a guy; but when I hear it come from a woman, it just sounds and feels WRONG, somehow.
- April 25, 2020 at 9:27 am #338515patty williamsParticipantRegistered On: January 19, 2019Topics: 61Replies: 1103Has thanked: 1650 timesBeen thanked: 3487 times
I can pull it off as in instances like you and I work in a very male profession .
mechanics can be very crude I must say.
I think a lot of mean just default to that behavior when confronted with femininity out of self preservation and not knowing how to deal with it,
I think a lot of men like and would be feminine but they are too scared.
we have a transgender at work and bless her heart she is built like a football player .
Tall and broad shoulders very manly build.
The guys I work with make jokes about her amongst them selves ( not to her)
However what I find is they talk about her a lot.
I think a lot of them are fascinated with her.
What do you girls think? am I way off base?
- April 25, 2020 at 9:09 am #338510karley delawareParticipantRegistered On: October 23, 2017Topics: 9Replies: 340Has thanked: 1404 timesBeen thanked: 764 times
- April 25, 2020 at 7:26 am #338490Patty PhoseParticipantRegistered On: May 7, 2016Topics: 0Replies: 1260Has thanked: 856 timesBeen thanked: 2782 times
I like being a guy and always enjoyed doing boy things when I was young. I just always had a love and desire to wear pretty girl’s clothes. I loved wearing stockings, pantyhose, heels and bra since I was 4. I so wanted to have many pairs of my own shoes, pantyhose, bras, panties, stockings, garters, lingerie and pretty dresses. I would look in magazines and department store catalogues, see all those wonderful things and thought of and dreamed of having and wearing them all the time.
When I was 18 and got my own place, I began buying and wearing all those wonderful things I loved and wanted for so long. I ended up getting everything, including wigs and makeup and began going out fully femme.It was wonderful, euphoric, exciting and such a thrill and rush like nothing else.
Still, though, when I was not in my girly attire I enjoyed going out, getting dirty, playing sports and being rough and tumble. I was just a boy who loved clothes that were not considered boy’s clothes. As an adult, I still enjoy being active in the outdoors. But I really do love the excitement thrill and rush of being Patty and being out too. I’m a manly man who loves dressing like a girly girl.
- April 25, 2020 at 7:26 am #338489Pirate QueenParticipantRegistered On: March 2, 2020Topics: 2Replies: 3Has thanked: 3 timesBeen thanked: 15 times
Here’s the thing for me. There are literally two opposite sides of myself. Sometimes I want to look and be as delicate and beautiful as Grace Kelly. Other times I want to be as rough and masculine as Gimli.
I don’t understand why I have these two opposites desires in me. I love wearing beautiful vintage dresses. I also have a deep desire to forge metal.
I don’t know why, but that is me.
- April 25, 2020 at 6:53 am #338481Anne PreussParticipantRegistered On: December 13, 2018Topics: 2Replies: 460Has thanked: 702 timesBeen thanked: 896 times
I think the macho thing depends upon several factors including our genetic makeup along with the environmental conditioning we received when we are young. I come from a strong Germanic/Prussian heritage. I think there is a bit of genetic macho that goes with that. But I was also raised in a chaotic household that featured much fighting and little to no love. It took many years for me to understand the macho wall I built up around me to shield myself due to my own insecurities and psychological fear of being hurt by others, after being hurt for such a long time by the ones who should have been been showing love to me. So now, after all these years, I try to avoid acting macho but occasionally the macho tendencies make appearances. It’s tough to subdue the demons at times but I’ll continue to carry on.
- April 24, 2020 at 10:08 pm #338413Stephanie FlowersAmbassadorRegistered On: June 26, 2017Topics: 24Replies: 4115Has thanked: 5713 timesBeen thanked: 6032 times
I never thought of me being overly macho but it was my way of life with work, family and being with the boys. Quite out going, sports, outdoors every aspect of our male culture. But through my many years I’ve always had that softer side but ever kept it hidden. Looking what life has dealt me I wouldn’t change a thing but now I feel for me. I don’t believe I was faking it but knowing it wasn’t something that was totally driving me. Now I felt the time has come to move over those male imperfections and start enjoying all that life offers .
Never again that stiff shifting strut but now a slow elegance is my walk , an ease to the soul… 🌷
- April 24, 2020 at 8:26 pm #338404Stacey RopkeParticipantRegistered On: February 24, 2020Topics: 0Replies: 16Has thanked: 4 timesBeen thanked: 70 times
I’m going to be honest, I can act macho but I absolutely hate it. I grew up rural in the Deep South, all my cousins bragged about hunting, fishing, and sports to the point where everybody was in competition with each other. Sad thing is they all still do after we have all grown up. Don’t get me wrong I love being outdoors and I like a good football game but so much is put on being manly and macho to where it effects what we wear, what we drive an so on to the point where if you don’t go along with it, you end up being the butt of derogatory jokes and name calling. I don’t know about y’all but I find it so difficult to enjoy myself with that surrounding. Yes I love the outdoors, I can fish, I can get dirty with the rest of them. I’m a proud veteran and a really good mechanic But more over, even tho I don’t drive a huge truck, or brag about who I went out with last night, or enjoy hunting, I’d rather not be a phony and just be myself. If that means I like to dress femme, and do things that make society nervous and question their own masculinity, then I say who cares? I’m happy and at peace with myself. I’m not in a competition with anyone and honestly we shouldn’t have to. I’m living my dream, if others don’t like that then maybe they are hiding something and not really being true to themselves. At the end of the day, you need to be happy with who you are.
- April 24, 2020 at 8:19 pm #338402Renske MeijerParticipantRegistered On: April 11, 2020Topics: 1Replies: 14Has thanked: 49 timesBeen thanked: 29 times
I never was the macho kind of guy, avoided the confrontations most of the times and for some reason they always left me alone, even when I was on the technical school, boys only and they always tried to get under you skin and provoke you to do something stupid.
Later in life I met with an old school mate and we talked about our time on the technical school and he mentioned that most guy’s left me alone because I was wearing a denim jacket with on the back a large sticker from Bruce Lee, I am a big fan of him and all his movies yes but are not a martial artist, but apparently a lot of guys thought I was and so left me alone.
Later when I worked in the merchant navy there was a colleague who wanted to arm wrestle, and his arms were twice the size of mine, so he asked me to give it a try and yes you guessed it already he lost, maybe that’s the only time I was a bit of a macho but did not showed it kept it nicely inside myself, as the humble person I am.
I do work in a male driven/occupied industry and know how to respond to certain situations but still do that on a calm and decent way instead of exploding like some of my colleagues do it’s not in my personality.
- April 24, 2020 at 8:06 pm #338399Samantha MurphyParticipantRegistered On: February 20, 2018Topics: 0Replies: 28Has thanked: 16 timesBeen thanked: 93 times
I’d say when I was younger I tried to fake being macho. I was in bands with guys who instead on looking tough and I won’t deny I tried to fit in. And some people complimented me on how a portrayed myself on stage, like a man. To be honest I’m not even sure how I pulled that off. I do confess I still have a potty mouth when frustrated, but otherwise, I don’t like faking being macho these days. I just want to be me regardless of what mode I’m in male or female.
- April 24, 2020 at 7:05 pm #338384Olivia LivinParticipantRegistered On: October 22, 2018Topics: 34Replies: 1419Has thanked: 5869 timesBeen thanked: 3159 times
Its not faking it, he’s still in here and I’m good with that. I’ve never been one to overuse expletives but not scared of them either. As a contractor, when the hammer slips or my head hits a rafter a simple squeaky owie! or jeepers just ain’t gunna cut it. I’m fairly confident that I could talk my way through most encounters with any lughead who really doesn’t agree with my clothing choice but if not, I’m not petite and if necessary there are other ways to get my point accross in order to leave.
- April 24, 2020 at 6:43 pm #338380Tiff AnyParticipantRegistered On: June 1, 2019Topics: 0Replies: 792Has thanked: 2133 timesBeen thanked: 1820 times
I’ve never desired to fit amongst the chest thumping males , despite being involved with professional & semi pro body contact sports for 20 yrs. I didn’t not fit in , just not interested in any pissing competitions , nor wanting to be an embarrassment to myself.
I got by fine, enjoyed myself & just avoided the Alphas , it’s been the same since retirement from competitive sports. I’m simply not interested in ” big boys toys ” & who has the biggest p&#@s 💐💐 Tiff
- April 24, 2020 at 5:42 pm #338369ChloeCParticipantRegistered On: November 5, 2019Topics: 7Replies: 167Has thanked: 279 timesBeen thanked: 558 times
I knew I could never be ‘macho’, so I never really tried. I decided that ‘Average Joe’s’ was my calling for my outward façade, so I worked at being just average and fitting in. My awakening to crudite behavior came when I switched schools coming into 4th grade as we moved to a neighboring elementary school district (new friends, new neighborhood, but same town). First day at a new school and an awful lot of boys had their left hand covering their privates and their right hand sticking out in sort a cup with fingers extended, and threatening to ‘goose’ any boy that didn’t immediately cover up. Wow! My first thought was ‘we moved here? I wanna go back to a sane neighborhood’. There were enough boys in all my classes starting in junior high (not the more politically correct ‘middle school’) and especially H.S. where in gym class we were on occasion divided by supposed physical ability. I strived to be in the middle group and mostly succeeded. One of my high points was to win my gym class Indian leg wrestling contest. I astounded the PE teacher. I understood leverage overcomes strength better than the others. Kept that understanding the rest of my life.
- April 24, 2020 at 1:36 pm #338297ParticipantRegistered On: May 26, 2019Topics: 14Replies: 1331Has thanked: 2041 timesBeen thanked: 3794 times
No macho here.
Anglo-Saxon expletives were never my thing. and I tend to label those who depend on them for emphasis as being illiterate clods. As a guy, I’m very much a Clark Kent, except for very rare occasions when something triggers me; and the less said about that, the better.
- April 24, 2020 at 11:54 am #338261HariettaParticipantRegistered On: December 13, 2016Topics: 81Replies: 167Has thanked: 8 timesBeen thanked: 949 times
Not “Western” I hope. I thougtht friends didn’t let their friends go to Western….ha….ha
Although London has far better bars with live music than Ottawa.
- April 24, 2020 at 11:35 am #338254Timea Jane WestParticipantRegistered On: March 26, 2020Topics: 5Replies: 45Has thanked: 251 timesBeen thanked: 197 times
Never been able to hang with gorillas. The MMPMPC thing has always been a turn off, and I assume men that carry that swagger are dolts or morons. Do I use profanity? Of course, but my now unrestricted feminine side doesn’t abide it at all, and my male side uses it in private only, reserving it for home projects gone wrong, finding dog turds in the closet, or imbecilic political views. I tell my students that although language like that may be part of their home vernacular, others in class find the language frightening and threatening, as I always have.
No machismo BS here, but, on the flip side, my girl side can talk naughty for hours (but that’s for another post! 😂).
Great question! Loving the responses. Stay beautiful, girls! Love ❤️
- April 24, 2020 at 11:12 am #338247AnonymousInactiveRegistered On:Topics: 3Replies: 51Has thanked: 166 timesBeen thanked: 223 times
I am totally macho at work. 3 minutes from tone out to we are out the door in truck. I am 75% maybe feminine at home but if problem comes up I think very fast and I am decisive in actions! I have never been a beer drinking bubba!
Do have to ask are female firefighters masculine? I know 2 and they can do same job as me! Have to apply with law enforcement and other first responders!. The ones I know are married and I don’t approach their gender identity
- April 24, 2020 at 9:26 am #338232Peggy Sue WilliamsParticipantRegistered On: June 26, 2019Topics: 10Replies: 187Has thanked: 721 timesBeen thanked: 699 times
IMHO, it all depends on who one chooses to hang out with.
Prior to political correctness becoming the standard in the US Navy and Marine Corps, the “F” word was standard vocabulary, but -all- “men defining their gender with crudite”? I cannot agree with that. Before the “F” word became politically incorrect in the Navy, some sailors would use it more than others, while some sailors would not use it at all.
Post Navy, my civilian career was with a federal regulatory agency. I experienced very little “crudite” working there. However, there were exceptions.
- April 24, 2020 at 9:12 am #338221Heather JamesonParticipantRegistered On: April 1, 2019Topics: 5Replies: 315Has thanked: 477 timesBeen thanked: 1010 times
No, I never could pull it off. I’ve always had a feminine lilt in my voice and my body language just screams it too. I used to work in the steel industry and used to love watching the gorillas playing who’s the most manly, I love playing fly on the wall and watching human behaviour. It can be very educational and quite entertaining at the same time. Another one of my favourites is sitting in a bar about midnight on a Saturday night and watching the human courtship rituals, this gets down right hilarious.
- April 24, 2020 at 8:14 am #338210KristaParticipantRegistered On: January 24, 2017Topics: 5Replies: 212Has thanked: 141 timesBeen thanked: 666 times
Hi Harietta, I can never pull off being macho. I’ve had a babyface my whole life, I can’t grow any facial hair if my life depended on it, no Adam’s apple, smallish in stature, I’ve been mistaken for female dressed totally in drab. I dislike the coarse and crude language used by groups of males. I guess that’s why I’ve always preferred the company of woman. I tried being macho when I was younger – joined the gun club, participated in martial arts (even won a nice big trophy), play ice hockey and football. But no luck, I never came across as macho.
Grew up in Southern Ontario as well, but moved west after I graduated from University. Love being close to the Rocky Mountains. Fantastic hiking and skiing.
Stay healthy, stay safe, Hugs, Krista
- April 24, 2020 at 7:31 am #338198DeLoraParticipantRegistered On: October 15, 2019Topics: 54Replies: 272Has thanked: 849 timesBeen thanked: 1362 times
I work in a very macho industry, mineral exploration, lots of hard core geologists and grizzled old prospectors and a few very talented female geologists. I am happy to say that on projects I have been involved in people are generally respected and accepted as part of the team based upon their skill and work ethic, regardless of gender or orientation. There is a lot of macho behavior, but I have never felt any pressure to be a part of it and I don’ t think it has cost me anything personally or professional. I have found that people often come to me if they have personal problems and I am always open to talk stuff over with co-workers.
- April 24, 2020 at 6:48 am #338184Paula FParticipantRegistered On: August 7, 2019Topics: 9Replies: 517Has thanked: 882 timesBeen thanked: 1747 times
Because of my job, hospital security, I have to go into macho mode on occasion to deal with drug seekers that come to the ER or the Pain Management clinic. I don’t like doing it, but ‘old grumpy’ can be pretty intimidating when it is needed.
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