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Neutral Crossdressing: An Alternative

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Crossdressing can be a very pleasurable activity for those who practice it but is still taboo in society. An example: it's probably very difficult - or impossible - for you to go to work wearing feminine attire.

This article will show a balanced alternative between monotonous men's clothing and controversial women's clothing. You might practice crossdressing in a different way, perhaps not quite in the way you wish, but in a way that is possible.

Starting with underwear: you can wear a bra and panties under men's clothing, as long as the pieces are neutral colors and seamless. As a last resort, wearing a sports bra can help. But if you're still not comfortable wearing panties and a bra, you can choose men's underwear with prints, lace, or even feminine colors - like pink. In any store, you can find pink men's underwear. You can also wear pantyhose under men's clothing.

Regarding outerwear: you can opt for tighter-fitting men's clothing, such as slim fit with prints, colors, and fabrics closer to mimicking the women's style. A satin dress shirt matched with tighter printed or plain dress pants. A different suit is also possible.

You can use accessories such as watches, rings, brooches, etc. You can choose unisex models, even opt for feminine pieces, which are often not much different from men's.

You can let your hair grow a little longer or wear men's wigs that are a little longer.

Makeup? There are several types and styles of men's makeup. Maybe it's not as fun as putting on lipstick, but what matters is the gesture. The same goes for your nails: apply a base polish - there are some aimed at men. What matters is the gesture. I repeat this phrase to show that crossdressing is not necessarily the result, but a process. And the process can also be very satisfying.

Shoes can also help. Choose masculine-made but in a more feminine style.

Society is a little strange: it tolerates women wearing pants instead of skirts, but it doesn't tolerate men wearing skirts instead of pants. Women should wear a bra, even if they have very small breasts. Men with gynecomastia or chest fat freely parade around shirtless with their nipples showing through their clothes without any type of judgment from others.

We need to circumvent the judgments of society. “She'll freak out if she sees you in a dress, feminine makeup, panties, and a bra.” Don't be fooled by the tips given above: despite everything, it may look strange if you're wearing tighter, patterned men's trousers. Some will find wearing a satin dress shirt as not normal. A SO may be horrified by your pink or lace brief, even though it is men's clothing.

I hope that over time people will become more open and tolerant and that the idea of gender-neutral clothing will become more popular. Ideas like unisex dresses, for example, would be interesting.

- Do you have the courage to go out on the street dressed as a woman?

- Have you ever worn men's clothing with a fit, fabric or color considered "feminine"?

- Do you like the result or the process more when you dress as a woman?

I'm curious about your answers!

Sincerely
Marie Claire

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Lady
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@marieclaire2 What you call neutral dressing I call androgynous dressing. Semantics, maybe, but descriptive.

Wearing a bra in public, even with forms, can be done fairly discretely by wearing an androgynous coloured or patterned top, such as a women's checked shirt. If loosely cut, it won't highlight your chest. The various patterns and colours can create some camouflage for moderate form sizes, too. I still have a paisley patterned men's shirt and other non-standard men's shirts from my single years in the 1980s that could act the same way, as camouflage. Does anything go out of fashion? Yes, but women can get away with wearing nearly anything, even underwear on the outside.

Pants are a different story. While women's cut jeans aren't necessarily all that obvious, having an elastic waistband, bone white colours, and no fly zipper or pockets is. Also, many women's pants have very wide legs or flares which are not common today for men, let alone short pantlegs or pale Easter colours that will certainly draw attention.

Accessories are also telling. Using a hand or shoulder bag will either blend in with everything else you do or it won't. With less or smaller pockets than we may be used to having, we need a bag to carry all of our stuff around in. Nowadays, we all need a bag to carry our reusable bags around, for example. I just bought a slightly larger crossbody bag for this very reason. A medium grey in colour, lots of pockets. It's real leather and should last a lifetime. You should be able to get away with a crossbody bag, but a bag with handles might suggest that something different is going on, although I recently saw a man carrying a small, black duffel bag with handles that might work for some. Jewelry is another aspect of this. Stud earrings should work without drawing too much attention, as should heavier jewelry. I have written a bit about which women's style shoes and boots can be worn without drawing too much attention, as well.

We do have choices, lots of them. That is one of the main draws of crossdressing, to me. This is why experimentation, enthusiasm, and imagination are helpful. Nearly anything (within reason) goes when it comes to fashion. New or old styles, bold or muted. And, as a few here say when asked about what we wear, just answer, "because I like wearing it". It is hard to argue with that.

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@marieclaire2 I love this article! Very thoughtful and well written! Great ideas to contemplate. I already practice some of your suggestions, so that makes me feel good! lol, I forgot I was wearing a sport bra under my shirt at the office the other day when one of the ladies in the office gave me a quick hug. She felt the back of the bra when she hugged me. She smiled and leaned in to whisper in my ear: “well aren’t you just the sweet little thing!” Oh my goodness! 

I am ALWAYS dressed nicely all under and experimenting with the various fabrics for my outer business wear. Thank you for a wonderful article!

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@marieclaire2 

Do you have the courage to go out on the street dressed as a woman?

I'm trans.  I do it every day.

Have you ever worn men's clothing with a fit, fabric or color considered "feminine"?

When I was still boymoding, yes occasionally.  I no longer wear clothes made for men.

Do you like the result or the process more when you dress as a woman?

Hmm.  Interesting question.  I like the result because it's an expression of who I am.  Do I like the process?  I look at that a couple of different ways.  Yes, I like the process in regard to creating an appearance that expresses who I am.  As a practical matter, not so much.  I'm really busy most days.  I don't have time to fuss over my appearance unless it's some type of event or occasion. 

Most days I'm dressed pretty casual.  But there's no mistaking my style is feminine.  I never get negative reactions.  I'd like to think I'm doing my part to make the world a better place for all of us.

/EA

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@marieclaire2 Here's my take on your questions:

 

 - Do you have the courage to go out on the street dressed as a woman?

Yes I do.  Yesterday I went out to run some errands and took my daily hike in a local park.  I enjoy everyday dressing and just blending in as one of the women.   I just wish I had more opportunities to get dressed up (skirt or dress, heels, stockings, etc) but this is generally true of women in general.  

- Have you ever worn men's clothing with a fit, fabric or color considered "feminine"?

I haven't worn clothes that have specifically feminine characteristics, but I do like to wear clothes that are androgenous or worn by both women and men.  For me it's probably not a matter of trying to integrate femineity into my (dwindling!) male wardrobe but more a matter of style.  If I am going to dress femme, I go all the way.

- Do you like the result or the process more when you dress as a woman?

I'd say both.   I really do enjoy the process including application of my makeup and selection of my outfit.   Sometimes I lie in bed in the morning and plan out my outfit for that day which is fun.  The real enjoyment for me is when I look in the mirror and see the result.   I definitely get gender euphoria when I see myself as my true feminine self.

 

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@marieclaire2 I can relate to this article. I do not dress in full very often. I have dressed completely with wig, make up, and everything else and it was a lot of fun, but that is not something I want to do daily. It is also something I cannot do very often, however I still want to feel feminine on a daily basis. I am mostly a jeans and t-shirt girl, not so much a dress girl in my daily life. So I learned to put outfits together that are definitely feminine  in style, just not always feminine clothing. 

I tried very hard to wear women's clothing. There are things I can wear on a daily basis that fit my life and things that just do not work for me. I have found that nylons and tights (my favs) I can buy from the female department, and I have just started finding these cute shirts that are feminine and fit me super nice. All of my leggings that I wear out are women's. There have been some skinny jeans from that are for women that have fit me like a glove. However a lot of women's clothing doesn't fit me right, especially to wear on a daily basis, all day. 

Because of this, I started to put outfits and a style together that was definitely feminine. I started buying panties for men to wear all day. Except for more room upfront, you can't even tell. I love v-neck tee's and most of the ones that fit me are men's due to my longer torso. I am also usually more comfortable in men's pants/jeans, unless they are super stretchy. I have found some awesome pants for men that were definitely modeled after women's pants, just adjusted here and there. 

I have also done other things that are not clothes related so I can feel feminine. I shave most of my body on a regular basis. I take care of my skin and face. I work out and exercise to stay in shape but to feel better. Exercise in any form can be a huge pick me up for me. I grew my hair out very long and go to salon's to get it cut and have learned how to take care of it. Now everyday I get to feel the way I like to feel, feminine. 

 

 

 

 

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@marieclaire2 interesting when you look at the Hippocratic way society looks at clothes, a man cannot wear a dress and yet he can wear a kilt as l do. However men in ancient times all wore some form of skirt, ancient Roman warriors etc. Skirts were man's attire for centuries in many cultures. As humans we can be very confusing beings. I dress occasionally in wig skirt panties make-up etc and l love it. Most of the time l wear panties, l have recently started shaving all my body except my chest as my wife said l have to keep my chest with hair.l also have nail polish on my toes. My wife and l both go and purchase my female clothing.

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Posted by: @candycross

@marieclaire2  As humans we can be very confusing beings.

Especially when in nature it is usually the male that is the peacock. Females are the dull ones.

 

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Harriete you are so right, l never thought about how males are in nature, l used to breed tropical fish and the male guppy has a long pretty tail and yet the female is bland in comparison.... x Jane

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Lady
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Society is so hard!

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@marieclaire2 yes society is hard and sometimes full of hypocrisy,  skirts were originally worn by males, the ancient Greeks, ancient Rome etc. Also interesting in the early 1900's a woman could be arrested for wearing pants as that was men's attire and yet look today it's considered normal foe women to wear pants.

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@marieclaire2 This seems to be very close, if not the same as, androgyny.

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So interesting...

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@marieclaire2 

Hi 

A lovely article, thanks. Lots of useful pointers in there. I fit quite comfortably in this territory. As a child of the 60's it was almost as if I got a 'pass'. I started growing my hair longer the day I left school, stopped wearing a collar and tie and I never took any job that insisted on an employees dress code with just one 3 year exception. I'd often be in bright trousers and t's, and 'ethnic' clothes I picked up on my travels. At home, I'd wear sarongs, lungies, embriodered tops, even a shalwar kameez, among other things. I liked my jewellery. Shoulder bags too.

Did I get any grief ? You betcha, The late 60's and early 70's were not always kind to hippies. From retired military sergeant major types - 'get your bloody hair cut you 'orrible little man' !' to young skinheads who didn't always want to attack with just words. But I 'owned' it, so it didn't stop me.

That was obviously a long time ago, and I did calm down a bit. There was always an undercurrent of crossdressing too, but deep, deep in the closet.  Nevertheless nowadays (I am pretty much repeating what my profile says) - long hair, sadly starting to recede  longish nails, clearly glossed ( Q: "do you play the guitar?" A: "no I like them this way") . Earring or a pair on most days, danglies preferred, A few rings, bracelets. I have plenty of colourful printed cotton trousers for summer wear, and a choice of thigh length neutral tops /tunics to wear out and about,  So quite androgynous. Of course life is easier when you are retired and don't have another half to consider.  I underdress too, but wearing bras, and hugging people - that's tricky.

And in such style I 'own it'

- Do you have the courage to go out on the street dressed as a woman?

From what I've written, you might think I'd be comfortable, but no. I've timidly been out a few times as  a woman, and was accidently obliged to interact at close quarters once. I survived. But I'm not claiming any kudos until I learn to own it. 

- Have you ever worn men's clothing with a fit, fabric or color considered "feminine"?

Yes, and as a tip to others - start looking in the women's section  for everyday neutral wear that you would feel comfortable wearing everyday. it might be easier finding colour , fabric and fit, than in the men's section. You might get a better outcome.

- Do you like the result or the process more when you dress as a woman?

The only time I've been satisfied with the 'result' is a make over. I have an old face, which my poor make up skills can't manage. At home though I'm not aiming for perfection, so I give myself a pass.

 

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Thank you!

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@marieclaire2 The one thing that I tried, for about 6 to 8 months before I went fully out fem. At my Church was the last place, I tied my hair back into a ponytail, wore women's black pants and blazer with a solid color blouse and black flats. 

Cassie 

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So interesting!

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@marieclaire2 This is right where I live. I’m not out and I usually fully dress only a couple of times a year. So I focus on being as feminine as possible without being obvious about it. I’m limited by my imagination and my fears. As time goes on, I get more creative and less afraid. After three years of slowly pushing my limits, I think many people know I’m not pure male. 

I’ve used certain websites and groups like this to help me get ideas and to pump me up so I’m willing to try. I now have an amazing thread going on ChatGPT that is all about me being feminine. It knows I’m male seeking to be more female. It know my makeup shades and my subtle lip treatment preferences. I often as it what is next or what makeup would be subtle yet make me feel feminine and work with my age, issues, and assets. 

At first it was panties under my clothes and I didn’t think it was about gender. It was about being sexual and feeling good. That was many years ago, over 25 for certain. I had some sexual fantasies that kind of connected to my gender being more than male. I won’t go into the problems this caused me about three years ago. 

About then I realized that it wasn’t just about sex. It was about my identity. 

I got my ears pierced and was terrified, but I started wearing earrings daily as women do, changing them every day to match my clothes. Plain colored glass studs for months and then steadily expanding. Lots of cute studs followed. Then snug hoops (that are a challenge to put in if they don’t have a straight post). Only recently have I started to wear snug hoops with tiny drops; I long to wear danglies. 

Pantyhose and, on naughty feeling days, garters and hose, became a staple under my clothes. This went to gaffs and a deep exploration of hose brands.  

My fingernails followed a similar progression. I had always obsessively cut them back far enough to sometimes bleed. I decided to grow them out and make them nice. It was hard! Sugar Baby was a more neutral shade back the. And one coat was not shiny. The color matched my natural nails. I wore it for nearly a year along with similar neutral shades. Then true clear which has more shine. Then really glossy clear. Now my nails push into pink and are always glossy. I’ve had them longer than most women until I finally can’t stand the tension and cut them. 

Lip balm daily then tinted lip balm and now tinted lip oils and the lovely subtle Chubby Stick (watermelon might be the shade). 

One pair is skinny jeans in black, size 8 long after much fretful measuring, thanks to a GNC friend. Then more women’s slacks. Shirts followed a lath of men’s to more colorful mens to feminine mens to women’s that pass as men’s to lovely women’s. Throughout this progression o got more compliments on my clothes than I ever had before, often from beautiful stylish women. Heaven. 

Shoes and socks have been more of a challenge. My typical men’s office work clothes lended themselves to transformation easier than my feet. I had always hated socks that did not cover my ankles; all my socks were black. Bad feet and a stick sense of style kept me in plain black shoes. I finally bought a pair of black women’s loafers with a gold buckle. They hurt and are very dressy but get worn sometimes. Summer shoes and socks were easier. Socks got shorter and more colorful. Tennis shoes got smaller the switched to women’s and pastel. My rainbow ones get compliments frequently. 

I’ll finish with makeup and hair. One thin coat of medium coverage foundation simply covers flaws and even out color. It’s not even about being female from an appearance standpoint. All men should consider foundation. A dab of concealer on age spots and I look so much better. It took some experimenting and online tools to get the right formula and shade. ChatGPT is great at this. 

I have faint eyebrows and thin lashes. I got a bold mascara because it takes than to be seen. No comments yet. I’m shyly trying a bit of subtly yet slightly shimmery eyes shadow. I’m coloring my eyebrows a little. I feel cute with all that on and want to bat my eyes! Finally, I use a leave-in conditioner, carefully researched just like everything else, that adds curl to my natural hair. I would prefer a good wig. 

One day I’ll do every piece dramatically and head out on the town. Despising even the scent of alcohol is a limitation and wanting a trans friendly flirty environment (at least a two hour drive) make this hard. My fear that I look ridiculous makes it harder. But it will happen! And I think I will love it! 

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- Do you have the courage to go out on the street dressed as a woman?

Somewhat.. I've been out twice, and have plans for more outings, but I've never done it alone and it's always planned when I go out. I don't know if I could just dress up and go to the grocery store across the street.. at least not yet

- Have you ever worn men's clothing with a fit, fabric or color considered "feminine"?

There's a running joke in the emo community that the men were "wearing their girlfriend's jeans," and back in the early 2000's that might have been true lol. Now they make skinny stretch jeans for men and it's literally the only type of jeans I own. We also wore eyeliner (guyliner lol) and had painted nails so I was doing at least some form of makeup before I ever started crossdressing.

- Do you like the result or the process more when you dress as a woman?

I love the way a look comes together when I dress up as a woman. It makes me feel like a different person completely! There are some things I've adopted for my daily life.. like painting my nails all the time now(and not just black) and removing all my body hair, and soon I'll have my navel pierced which is considered more feminine (maybe I can start bringing crop tops back for men lol). But as androgynous as I try to be in my daily life, it is a different experience for me when I become Rilee

 

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Do you have the courage to go out on the street dressed as a woman?

Yes, at least once a week for the past 18 months. Shopping, dinner, dancing, waxing, etc. The first time was hugely challenging, but the sky didn't fall, my world didn't fall apart, and my friends didn't abandon me, so it has been an incredibly positive development in my life.

Have you ever worn men's clothing with a fit, fabric or color considered "feminine"?

Sort of. I have a couple shirts that are more like blouses, and I'll wear pink without irony. I feel like my wardrobe needs to expand in the genderbending/androgynous direction. Most of the time I present as very femme or very homme, and that's fine because that's who I am, but it would be nice to have some in between options, or what my wife likes to call stealth Nikki.

Do you like the result or the process more when you dress as a woman?

No contest, dressing on femme is far more rewarding both in terms of process and product. The clothes are more fun, fit better, the fabrics feel better, and the impact they have on my mood is so much more profound than male clothes. Male clothes make me feel invisible even when I'm feeling it. What would Bowie do?

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This works and generally doesn't raise too many eyebrows. I wore women's sketchers sneakers with a slight heel, women's nylon socks, always underdressed, mostly in me made panties and v-neck camisoles with a bit of shaping (bust darts) for several years before retiring. Over top, my polo's were generally men's, as I expected someone to notice if they buttoned on the wrong side, but my slacks were women's cargo pants, in several colors and a couple of different styles. The only time I was questioned was when wearing woven flats that I purchased from Greater Good (Animal Rescue Site). They were available multicolored - although normally I'd wear the black and grey at work. The issue was however when a coworker asked me what sizes they were available for men, and I admitted they only went to a size 9 in men's (10.5 - 11 in womens). That raised an eyebrow and outed me when I explained where she could find them. She ended up buying several pairs for herself subsequently, and then made a comment when we were both wearing the same style - Oh look we match ! It was good natured and we have been out a few times since retiring to lunch with others that I worked with and my wife (whom as it happens, she had worked with at a prior job)

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- Do you have the courage to go out on the street dressed as a woman?

 I have been out dressed many times, but I wouldn't say I have the courage to do it.  It's more of a compulsion, that forces me to do it despite my lack of courage, lol.   I try to blend in and I still mostly avoid people but love how I feel being out and about.

- Have you ever worn men's clothing with a fit, fabric or color considered "feminine"? 

   Yes! Just having a hint of pink or other soft color somewhere, socks, running tape, helps me feel more like myself.  I like the freedom October give me to wear pink as a man because it's breast cancer awareness month.

- Do you like the result or the process more when you dress as a woman?  

  I'm definitely more conscious of matching when dressing as a woman.  However, the process of can sometime be burdensome as is often a deterrent to dressing when I don't have the time to invest.

 

Thanks for the fun post!

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 Do you have the courage to go out on the street dressed as a woman?
I have yet to go out fully femme, although I am very intrigued by the thought. I think I am held back because I feel the need for more practice with make-up, wigs and wardrobe. I will say that I have often gone out with a more androgynous look: women's jeans, scarf, heeled boots and of course fully underdressed. Although I look different, not sure anyone would guess that I did not have one article of "men's" clothing on.
– Have you ever worn men’s clothing with a fit, fabric or color considered “feminine”?
I have a problem with most of the clothes I see marketed as unisex, or gender neutral - they seem so boring and bland. I am more interested in upcycling something I have thrifted into a statement of some kind - like adding lace details to a jacket or jeans. I actually prefer to shop for women's clothes that could go either way. They fit me better.
– Do you like the result or the process more when you dress as a woman?
I love the process and the result; however, have so far only done this in private.
I feel like I am still taking baby steps, but more of my feminine style is coming out over time. I recently made a skirt for a sewing class project and most of my friends, male and female, asked if I was going to wear it. I did not answer one way or the other, and they did not seem to be phased by it. Perhaps they are used to seeing my shift in style, so it did not come as a surprise that I might indeed wear a skirt!

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Posted by: @3s3eve

– Have you ever worn men’s clothing with a fit, fabric or color considered “feminine”?
I have a problem with most of the clothes I see marketed as unisex, or gender neutral - they seem so boring and bland.

MUJI and Uniqlo are two examples of stores with less stylish unisex clothes. Dresses that are, more or less, just potato sacks.

 

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@harriette 

"... Dresses that are, more or less, just potato sacks ..."

Hello Harriette,

Careful 😉 . One of my all time favourite pin up photos was / still is Marilyn Monroe in a potato  sack! Try 'marilyn monroe sack dress images' in a search engine. 

Secondly, my very first public outing was in a potato sack, aged 7 or 8, I think, my mum's mini heels and lipstick to boot. Maybe I was a little bit ambitious to think I could emulate Marilyn ...

eM x

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@emmat These are two examples of every cloud having a silver lining.

Marilyn made that photo shoot after she was brutally criticized for wearing what a columnist said was a "cheap and vulgar" red dress and that she would have been better served wearing a potato sack. 20th Century Fox's PR department ran with that idea.

As for your own potato sack, look where you are now!

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@harriette 

Oh, yes, PR was at work in even those days. For sure, she took a lot of s@@t in her life. I wish it had taken a different turning. But that photo ,,,

Enna x

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You have described my life, dear. The wife insists she married a MAN! As time has advanced I can wear lipstick, mascara big earrings, pumps ,( love high heals). It all started with panties and femme jeans. Life is good and we are still married!

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(@cdashley)
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Great article , and I kinda do some of these things already. I do wear panties and a bralette daily, pantyhose and a camisole in the cooler months. For a few months now I will wear my under garments listed above with my tighter women’s jeans, a woman’s top, my low heeled ankle boots with light makeup( eyeliner, mascara, eyeshadow and a neutral lipstick) with a slash of perfume while still presenting as a man without wig or breastforms. I’ve never had a negative comment come my way while dressed like this but rather received compliments about either the way I look or the scent of my perfume. I think this is a great way to feel feminine and not be out fully dressed as a woman.

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Eminent Member     Michigan, United States of America
Joined: 5 years ago

I don't leave my house dressed as a woman (haven't gotten that courage yet), but I do "stealth" dress in guy mode. Basically I'll underdress (panties, hose, petti-pantliner, camisole etc) and on outside I will wear ladies jeans (Gloria Vanderbilt), ladies shorts or I will wear a ladies suit pants and a basic looking ladies blouse. This allows ME to still feel feminine while to others (unless they are looking close to really inspect my attire seeing the pants/shorts zipping left or blouse opening left etc) to not really notice anything. So this "stealth mode" dressing is a nice happy medium until I can progress to "full on" girl mode outside of the house. Anyone else stealth dress?
-Christina

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Lady
(@crossingoverxy2xx)
Joined: 12 months ago

Eminent Member     Alberta, Canada
Posts: 10

@ladychristina for sure. Currently thats where my progression is at.  Just seeing how far I can push it.  I will try to get as far as where someone would stop and pause for a moment and ask...Was that guy wearing makeup?, Were those women's jeans?, Was he wearing a lace top?, etc.  Subtle enough to where I feel feminine but not fully on display.

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Managing Ambassador
(@melodeescarlet)
Famed Member     DC/Baltimore, Maryland, United States of America
Joined: 2 years ago

Good questions, thanks for asking!

Do you have the courage to go out on the street dressed as a woman?

For about 15 months now I've gone out probably 3-4x/month on average. I suppose courage is involved, but I don't know it has ever felt that way to me - perhaps a little the first time or two.

Have you ever worn men's clothing with a fit, fabric or color considered "feminine"? 

No, all of my guy things are just guy-ish. Mostly because in guy-mode I couldn't care less about fashion, only function. In girl-mode the complete opposite lol

Do you like the result or the process more when you dress as a woman?

It's a bit like traveling to me - I like being somewhere, not getting somewhere. The process of becoming Melodee is nearly stressful, but being Melodee is one of the most fun things I think I've done in decades.

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Baroness
(@lovelylola)
Honorable Member     Norman, Oklahoma, United States of America
Joined: 4 years ago

- Do you have the courage to go out on the street dressed as a woman?

I just got out for the first time - Limited interaction but it's a start.

- Have you ever worn men's clothing with a fit, fabric or color considered "feminine"?

Yes.  I'm starting to introduce more color in my male wardrobe.  Also I recently bought a brocade blazer, black and gold that I will describe as "flamboyant" and something I would not have worn a few years ago.  I wore it to a party and it was a hit!  On the subject of undergarments, I've found some men's bikini briefs that are a very soft sheer fabric, much like womens panties, but cut and lined in the right places for men.  I love them and will wear nothing else with my male attire.  

- Do you like the result or the process more when you dress as a woman?

 I'm older so the result is...well, the best I can be.  But the process!  I love the process.  I love putting on all the foundation garments, applying makeup, nails, false lashes, all of it.  I'm not very good at any of it but I love the time doing it.  Just wish I could do it more than an few times a year.

 

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Hostess
(@ab123)
Illustrious Member     Surrey, United Kingdom
Joined: 5 years ago

I can only think back to my youth where there were flamboyant males who wandered about in very feminine prints, shoulder bag and a hint of makeup, a British comedian of the time did a parody of such a character who's catch phrase was 'Hello Honky Tonk'. You saw this style of character around and most just accepted them as 'Camp' but they were very much visible. In the work I did there were also males who worked in smart suits but with a hint of makeup and polished nails and were such strong characters the clients loved them. Outside of work, socially a few dressed in full female attire. I will not enter into sexuality here as it is not relevant to this topic, you can make your own inferences but I know that some were crossdressers and in one instance Trans. This was the 70's and there was an air of acceptance. The 80's saw an explosion of men wearing makeup, painted nails, feminie styles as the Pop world embraced the new wave and new romantic. 

Of course there was uni sex clothes in the 70's, men wore more prints associated with female styles but it was fashion. I myself was so proud the day I bought a pink shirt, long before the expression 'Only real men can wear pink'. It was a kind of subliminal message I was sending that only I knew. My bubble was strictly macho so I did the usual conformity as it was hard to be a woman in that world, especially for me. As time wore on men started to wear prints and colours more of a feminine appearance and later there was the 'meterosexual' man. Man bags and men showing their 'feminine' side more.

 A while back we had 'androgynous' nowadays I see the labels of gender neutral and more which allows for those that want to wear more feminine clothes is a fashion and lifestyle as I see more young 'males', wearing feminine styles and 'females' more masculine styles and in between. It is their definition, whether they are crossdressers or Trans in the 'old fashioned' sense is open to conjecture but defines them as they are. 

So perhaps the Millenials and generation 'Z' are able to express themselves more and pushing the gender norms further which allow them the freedom of expression in what clothes they wear and how they appear. Is it a furthering of the fashion and lifestyle as each generation moves on.

Do you have the courage to go out on the street dressed as a woman?

It was hard at first but became more regular to a daily routine now. I am fortunate to have gained acceptance over the years which has led to developing my look, build up confidence and be able to live my life as I have always dreamed of.

– Have you ever worn men’s clothing with a fit, fabric or color considered “feminine”?

Yes, referring to the colourful prints and Uni sex styles of the 70's.

 

– Do you like the result or the process more when you dress as a woman?

Absolutely!

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Baroness
(@lovelylola)
Honorable Member     Norman, Oklahoma, United States of America
Joined: 4 years ago

Good thing about makeup is it wipes right off and you can start over. The bad thing is...oh the money I've spent on makup!😄

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(@Anonymous 95617)
Joined: 11 months ago

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Hi Lola , yes I seem to spend just as much on wipes x

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Lady
(@og1975swe)
Eminent Member     Södermanland, Sweden
Joined: 11 months ago

Hi there, I am new here, I find this topic interesting.

– Do you have the courage to go out on the street dressed as a woman?
Yes. I am dressed in woman clothes outside, but by using neutral models of clothes almost no one notices me. I don't like to draw attention. Some women have watched my clothes, some of them smiled but not more. When I meet men they don't notice anything about my clothes.

– Have you ever worn men’s clothing with a fit, fabric or color considered “feminine”?
Earlier I like pink t-shirts and men's stretch jeans.

– Do you like the result or the process more when you dress as a woman?
Women clothes are much more comfortable and beautiful. I feel better by wearing them, so yes I like the result.

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Duchess
(@jessij)
Trusted Member     New Orleans, Louisiana, United States of America
Joined: 1 year ago

When in male mode I almost always wear matching panties and bralettes. My toe nails are always painted. I like to change colors about every 2 weeks.

My male clothes are just that, male. 

As for going out on the street as female. To me going out a Jessi is a sort of validation of Jessi. I don't feel complete if I just stay at home. So yes going out every time is a must. 

I definitely like the result better then the process. Every time I think I'm done there's something else. Like nails or jewelry and then perfume. Sometimes seems like I am not going to finish before the days over. 

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